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Hi Vorona, thanks for taking the time to answer my question.Vorona wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:11 pmI strongly advise you not to take a risk. Wait until you have 5 years without absences over 6 weeks per year.
You might have read someone saying they were approved despite being away for more than 6 weeks, but you won't know if they lied on the form, or if it was an exceptional situation. Every application is different. However rules are the same. The question on the form is clear and it's there for a reason. It gives them every chance for rejection. Not disclosing your absences or lying on the form is a criminal offence as it's stated on the form:
"A person who gives false or misleading information is guilty of an offence under the Act and liable to a fine and/or imprisonment."
Don't take the risk. It's not worth it.
Thanks for your reply littlerr, if it gets rejected and takes between 6-12 months to get the response back. Can I apply immediately after that or there is a waiting time?littlerr wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:27 pmIf getting rejected isn’t your concern then go ahead and apply for it. I would personally recommend waiting for an extra 3 months to cover the two years where your absence is more than 6 weeks, but it’s up to you.
If you get rejected because of this, you would have wasted at least 6-12 months by then. Plus, with the current timeframe, it takes at least a month or more to even just get an acknowledgment, so there isn’t any rush.
Of course. Two types of risk.Miranda0412 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:21 amCan you clarify what risk are you taking about? I dont think there is any risk beside getting rejected and having to wait a bit longer.
In the application form it mentioned enclosing details of all absences on a separate sheet and include it
with the application, and that is what I am going to do. I don't think people would lie about their absences, there is a register of each absence in the immigration system and in the passport for non-EU.
Thanks phoenix49 for sharing your experience , its so helpful when experienced ppl share their experience in the forums.phoenix49 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:45 amI was in a similar situation and had 1 or 2 years where I was out of country for more than 6 weeks. But that being said, out of those 6 weeks, 3-4 weeks were due to my work activities and business travel - which I couldn't avoid. What I did - split those absences in two and on a sheet I provided two tables, one with personal related travels and second sheet contained business trips. Separately, they did not exceed 6 weeks in any year. I also provided documentation from employer stating that I was out of country due to work, I included some tickets for conferences I attended, etc.
In the letter I indicated that unfortunately due to work - I travelled a lot. I also applied 5 years + all of the absences combined where I was more than 6 weeks out, so it played out fairly. I indicated this in the letter too
I know at least one more person who did a similar thing, they provided two separate sheets for absences (personal & business). That person is now a citizen, and me - still waiting for the ceremony
Best of luck!
Hi Pheonix,phoenix49 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:45 amI was in a similar situation and had 1 or 2 years where I was out of country for more than 6 weeks. But that being said, out of those 6 weeks, 3-4 weeks were due to my work activities and business travel - which I couldn't avoid. What I did - split those absences in two and on a sheet I provided two tables, one with personal related travels and second sheet contained business trips. Separately, they did not exceed 6 weeks in any year. I also provided documentation from employer stating that I was out of country due to work, I included some tickets for conferences I attended, etc.
In the letter I indicated that unfortunately due to work - I travelled a lot. I also applied 5 years + all of the absences combined where I was more than 6 weeks out, so it played out fairly. I indicated this in the letter too
I know at least one more person who did a similar thing, they provided two separate sheets for absences (personal & business). That person is now a citizen, and me - still waiting for the ceremony
Best of luck!
Hi!barter wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:19 pmThanks phoenix49 for sharing your experience , its so helpful when experienced ppl share their experience in the forums.
I have quick question, is it right to say , we only need to cover the years where days outside country is >6 weeks and not to worry about years where days outside country is < 6 weeks in a year.
For example:
if some one in first three years is outside for '2 months each'.
but, in other years (4th and 5th) its 1 month away from country.
So applicant to wait 6 (2 months*3 years) months after 5 years and not 8 months ?
HI! I actually applied when I was in the country for almost 6 years and a few months, to ensure that my last year didn't have absences for more than 6 weeks + all other years where I was out for more than 6 weeks.ChristinaLeary wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:29 pmHi Pheonix,
I have a question for you. So you mean to say that you didn't apply for citizenship after 5 years? Right? And you wanted for 6th or 7th year once you completed all your more than 6 weeks absences and then you applied in year 7? Is my understanding correct?
Please respond? When did you apply? After completing all your absences of more than 6 weeks or after 5 years?
Many Thanks
Well, I am already approved and waiting for the ceremony, I just shared my experience . So in my case, with your example, for Year 2 I only waited 2 weeks.ChristinaLeary wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:21 pmHi Pheonix,
Thanks for the reply. My understanding was that you need to cover all 10 weeks and not just the excess. So lets says if in Year 2, you were away for 8 weeks, then you have to wait for 8 weeks after 5 years and not 2 weeks ( which is 8-6) to cover the absences.
I hope you get approved.
Many Thanks
Thanks Phoenix49 for sharing your experience, it give me a some peace of mind and I am going to separate the days as you suggested.phoenix49 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:45 pmWell, I am already approved and waiting for the ceremony, I just shared my experience . So in my case, with your example, for Year 2 I only waited 2 weeks.
But this is just personal experience, and naturalisation clerks may have different opinions. I know that in the form it's not really clear what is needed to be done. So it's a bit of a grey area, especially if you remember the 365 days in the country without a single day out nonsense
All the best!