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Mother is an Indian national.littlerr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:13 pmYou are confusing a visa with a residence permission. What is your mother’s nationality? Does she need a visa to visit Ireland?
If yes, you would have to hurry and act now; if no, you have a bit time but time is still running out.
You don’t need to have lived in Ireland for any amount of time before you can apply for your mother’s visa (if she needs a visa) or her permission, but apparently if you move here and set up everything first (find a place to live, set up bank account, find a job etc), that will make the application more genuine.
Can you please explain this in more detail if someone has Irish passport and wants to apply for Pakistan national parents in UK what's procedure?littlerr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:13 pmYou are confusing a visa with a residence permission. What is your mother’s nationality? Does she need a visa to visit Ireland?
If yes, you would have to hurry and act now; if no, you have a bit time but time is still running out.
You don’t need to have lived in Ireland for any amount of time before you can apply for your mother’s visa (if she needs a visa) or her permission, but apparently if you move here and set up everything first (find a place to live, set up bank account, find a job etc), that will make the application more genuine.
Can you please start your own topic in the relevant sub forum, link below, as it is not relevant to the Irish sub forum. It is also not fair to the OP for you to tag your questions about the UK onto their topic!!!Xainrind wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:33 pmCan you please explain this in more detail if someone has Irish passport and wants to apply for Pakistan national parents in UK what's procedure?littlerr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:13 pmYou are confusing a visa with a residence permission. What is your mother’s nationality? Does she need a visa to visit Ireland?
If yes, you would have to hurry and act now; if no, you have a bit time but time is still running out.
You don’t need to have lived in Ireland for any amount of time before you can apply for your mother’s visa (if she needs a visa) or her permission, but apparently if you move here and set up everything first (find a place to live, set up bank account, find a job etc), that will make the application more genuine.
My apologies. As I am very new to this process, seems to using confusing words.littlerr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:13 pmYou are confusing a visa with a residence permission. What is your mother’s nationality? Does she need a visa to visit Ireland?
If yes, you would have to hurry and act now; if no, you have a bit time but time is still running out.
You don’t need to have lived in Ireland for any amount of time before you can apply for your mother’s visa (if she needs a visa) or her permission, but apparently if you move here and set up everything first (find a place to live, set up bank account, find a job etc), that will make the application more genuine.
Can you please guide, next course of action for me, in order to proceed with this.
You won't be an EU citizen in 8-10 months, and so you won't be able to apply under EU treaty rights.
Wife will be British citizen soon. Son already British citizen.
I would be very happy, if we could get long term visa for my mom in the UK. But that visa is extremely difficult to get. (and if we apply for it, and it gets rejected, then chances of getting EUTR visa in Ireland will be less).littlerr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:18 amYour mother - as other people have mentioned, it takes quite a few weeks at least to apply for an entry visa even without COVID-19 restrictions. Therefore, you have to act now. Apply for a visa for your mother. Get all of your financial documents that can prove your mother's dependency ready. Have a solid plan of moving to Ireland (finding a job, a place to live, setup utilities etc). You don't have to be physically in Ireland, but you must present a convincing plan that you are looking to move to Ireland with everything ready.
Granista has always been pessimistic but he has a point. It takes quite a bit of time to get a visa, and moving to a different country in the middle of a pandemic looks a bit suspicious. Plus you have the UK being so eager to have a no-deal with the rest of the EU countries. These all make it more difficult than ever to convince the immigration officers that you are here for a genuine reason.
My mom (with Indian passport) already have UK 10 years family visitor visa (almost 8 years left on the visa), and she is in the UK at the moment.
I suggest you email eutreatyrights@justice.ie.omi007 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:14 pmMy mom (with Indian passport) already have UK 10 years family visitor visa (almost 8 years left on the visa), and she is in the UK at the moment.
While checking the information about Ireland Type C visas, I came to know, her existing UK visa can be used for entry clearance in Ireland. Is it right?
If yes, we can potentially save much time for entry visa, and after entry in Ireland, EUTR application can be made for my mom?
Thanks.
The OP was saying his wife and son, who are UK nationals, would move to Ireland in 8 months’ time. That is perfectly fine. What does that have anything to do with transition?Obie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:44 pmI do not have a clue where this 8 months date is coming from.
I will implore contributors to desist from providing inaccurate information on the forum.
The transition ends on the 31-12-2020, if the OP enters the state before 31-12-2020, she will be able to bring her mother under the withdrawal treaty. That is the short and straightforward answer, and i will implore others who are unfamiliar with the withdrawal treaty, to desist from providing inaccurate information.
The official response would be no. She needs a Type C Join Family visa for Ireland.omi007 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:14 pmMy mom (with Indian passport) already have UK 10 years family visitor visa (almost 8 years left on the visa), and she is in the UK at the moment.
While checking the information about Ireland Type C visas, I came to know, her existing UK visa can be used for entry clearance in Ireland. Is it right?
If yes, we can potentially save much time for entry visa, and after entry in Ireland, EUTR application can be made for my mom?
Thanks.
That statement is wrong and inconsistent with the treaty.
I’m curious where you get this information from.Obie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:06 amThat statement is wrong and inconsistent with the treaty.
Provided this man is married to his wife before 31-12-2020,which he will be, and provided he commenced residence in Ireland before that period, then his wife and son will be able to join him under current rules.
So that advise is faulty and wrong.
Under the Withdrawal Agreement UK citizens and their families, who are living legally in an EU country (including Ireland) before the end of the transition period, will be able to continue to live in that country after 31 December 2020.
Information about the status of non-EEA family members of UK citizens who hope to come to Ireland after the transition period has finished (31 December 2020) will be published on citizensinformation.ie when it is available.
Incorrect. First of all, immigration officers can and DO turn such people away: if they are visa required and do not have one, they will not gain entry. Second, BIVS is suspended due to Covid, you cannot enter Ireland on ANY UK visa at this time.littlerr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:57 pm
The official response would be no. She needs a Type C Join Family visa for Ireland.
However, I think there is a ruling somewhere that prohibits immigration officers from turning such people away if they do manage to get to the Irish port. That would, however, cast some doubts on your mother’s actual EUTR application when she applied for it. I would not recommend it unless there is no alternative.
Btw just for the purpose of entering Ireland on a UK visa, the visa must have a BIVS remark on it, and you have to make sure that your mother enters UK first. Otherwise the visa will not be accepted at the Irish port.