FLR(M) when SET(LR) is in progress

[poper]

Hello,

I have applied for SET(LR) on 29th August and waiting to hear on my biometrics appointment. I am currently on Tier 2 ICT visa

Myself and dependants have an existing leave till February 2023.

Spouse's case(Tier 2 ICT dependent) :
UK Entry: Sep 2010
UK Exit: Jan 2012
UK Entry on a new entry clearance: Nov 2012(Break - approx 300 days)
My spouse is continuously living in the UK since Nov 2012

My spouse will need a FLR(M) visa when I attain ILR. Since the IHS charges are increasing on 1st October, I am wondering if I should file FLR(M) for my spouse and son(born abroad) now with a covering letter stating dependency on my ILR application processing.
This could save me over £700

A couple of questions:
1. Assuming I obtain my ILR past September, HO would come back to demand the IHS fee difference right? I think HO have every right to demand as I'd requested the delayed processing. This would defeat the whole purpose of applying early.
2. Worst case scenario, if my ILR was refused, can I withdraw FLR(M) visas for a refund(assuming dependents did not go through their biometrics appointments)?

Thoughts please

[CR001]

1. Assuming I obtain my ILR past September, HO would come back to demand the IHS fee difference right? I think HO have every right to demand as I'd requested the delayed processing. This would defeat the whole purpose of applying early.

No they won't. The fee you pay is relevant to the date of application online.

2. Worst case scenario, if my ILR was refused, can I withdraw FLR(M) visas for a refund(assuming dependents did not go through their biometrics appointments)?

If your ILR is refused, FLR(M) will also be refused or returned as invalid.

They can apply for FLR(M) at any time, you simply have to link it with a cover letter to your application. This obviously providing they/you meet all the requirements for FLR(M), i.e. English and £22,400pa financial requirement.

[poper]

Thanks CR001.
I am getting a bit lost with the FLR(M) guidance. Where do I find this?

There is way too much information here:
https://www.immigrationboards.com/immig ... 62549.html

[CR001]

It is Appendix FM you will apply under.

Financial requirements guidance is document appendix 1.7 if you Google search it.

https://www.gov.uk/uk-family-visa/partner-spouse

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -form-flrm

Historical paper guidance notes is second item in the Google search.

https://www.google.com/search?q=flr+m+g ... e&ie=UTF-8

[poper]

Excellent.
You are a star as always

[CR001]

You're welcome. Feel free to continue posting here if you have any further queries.

[poper]

A followup question, assuming I obtain my ILR, can I change job while my family's FLR(M) is in progress?
I guess it is advisable not to.

[CR001]

Advisable not to given that ukvi could contact your employer to verify your income and employment if you are using your income to meet the financial requirements.

If you are using your spouse's income to meet the requirements, then you could change jobs yes.

[poper]

Appears the IHS increase is not happening on October 1st as originally planned. This was because a new draft order was passed which hasn't become law yet

Any further news over this?

https://www.freemovement.org.uk/immigra ... ober-2020/

[seagul]

Appears the IHS increase is not happening on October 1st as originally planned. This was because a new draft order was passed which hasn't become law yet

Any further news over this?

https://www.freemovement.org.uk/immigra ... ober-2020/

Yes better to avail this offer before it gets enforced.

[poper]

Thats right. I will keep a close watch on when the increase is expected to happen and time my family's FLR(M).
Right now, awaiting decision on my ILR

[poper]

https://statutoryinstruments.parliament ... 2/SI-2020/

From the above, the amendment for IHS increase been signed.
Do we know from when this will actually reflect into the UKVI payment systems? Is it 21 days from September 30? i.e, October 20/21?

[seagul]

https://statutoryinstruments.parliament ... 2/SI-2020/

From the above, the amendment for IHS increase been signed.
Do we know from when this will actually reflect into the UKVI payment systems? Is it 21 days from September 30? i.e, October 20/21?

Nobody can fathom this out as when exactly will it be incorporated with the UKVI payment system but antecedently any deficient fee either fully or partly is claimed subsequently from the applicant.

[poper]

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[seagul]

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Yes I seen that vinny's valuable input last night. So at least now the applicant is well aware as what to do.

[poper]

I am in the process of accumulating documents for FLR(M) visa which I applied on Oct 26 for my spouse and child. Haven't booked biometrics yet as my Set LR decision is pending(Biometrics deadline for FLR(M) stated was 28th December).

On the finances, I have managed to obtain bank statements displaying my salary credits. However, the bank statements comprise of:
1. First 3 months statements printed in the branch. The statement mentions 'printed in xyz branch'. However, this appears like a normal printout taken at home.
2. Last 3 months statements which were issued by post from the bank.

Do the above satisfy the requirements?

[AmazonianX]

I am in the process of accumulating documents for FLR(M) visa which I applied on Oct 26 for my spouse and child. Haven't booked biometrics yet as my Set LR decision is pending(Biometrics deadline for FLR(M) stated was 28th December).

On the finances, I have managed to obtain bank statements displaying my salary credits. However, the bank statements comprise of:
1. First 3 months statements printed in the branch. The statement mentions 'printed in xyz branch'. However, this appears like a normal printout taken at home.
2. Last 3 months statements which were issued by post from the bank.

Do the above satisfy the requirements?

Besides the "printed in branch" if 1. looks like what you have received by post I.e. 2., then satisfy requirements.

[seagul]

1. First 3 months statements printed in the branch. The statement mentions 'printed in xyz branch'. However, this appears like a normal printout taken at home.

If these are on bank official stationary then no issue at all

[poper]

Thanks both.
Is it advisable to use a light highlighter pen to shade important parts of the bank statement I.e, 'printed in branch' line which may miss the CW sight

[AmazonianX]

Thanks both.
Is it advisable to use a light highlighter pen to shade important parts of the bank statement I.e, 'printed in branch' line which may miss the CW sight

No, do not highlight it, in times past advised against it as HO considers alteration of document.

[poper]

Advisable not to given that ukvi could contact your employer to verify your income and employment if you are using your income to meet the financial requirements.

If you are using your spouse's income to meet the requirements, then you could change jobs yes.

I am using only my income to meet the requirements. Unfortunately, the timing is such that I may need to switch jobs when my spouse & son's FLR(M) is being processed.
In the worst case scenario if their FLR(M) is refused, will they be offered FLR(FP) as I have seen in other cases.
1. My spouse & son would qualify on the Long Residence route by Nov 2022 and it shouldn't matter whether they hold FLR(M) or FLR(FP) right?
2. I hope there isn't an additional fee to be paid if FLR(FP) is offered in lieu?

[seagul]

I am using only my income to meet the requirements. Unfortunately, the timing is such that I may need to switch jobs when my spouse & son's FLR(M) is being processed.

If your circumstances are getting unmanageable without changing the employer then you can simply take unpaid leave from your old employer and join the new job. By doing so you would at least be remained in their payroll to be counted as their employee.

In the worst case scenario if their FLR(M) is refused, will they be offered FLR(FP) as I have seen in other cases.
1. My spouse & son would qualify on the Long Residence route by Nov 2022 and it shouldn't matter whether they hold FLR(M) or FLR(FP) right?
2. I hope there isn't an additional fee to be paid if FLR(FP) is offered in lieu?

1. Yes because all visas are counted.
2. Yes

[poper]

Thanks seagul.
But is FLR(FP) always offered when FLR(M) fails?

[poper]

Thanks seagul.
But is FLR(FP) always offered when FLR(M) fails?

Maybe, I am over-engineering this.
If I really do need to move employers while FLR(M) is in flight, it would be worth supplying 12 months payslips and bank statements and try qualifying under Category B? Isn't this a safe bet?

[seagul]

Thanks seagul.
But is FLR(FP) always offered when FLR(M) fails?

Maybe, I am over-engineering this.
If I really do need to move employers while FLR(M) is in flight, it would be worth supplying 12 months payslips and bank statements and try qualifying under Category B? Isn't this a safe bet?

I wouldn't worry at all given my goal is long residence where all visas can be combined. Category B would only come into play on refusal followed by reapplication which most likely won't happen in your circumstances.