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People are just doing that all the time. Just search in the forum, there are bringing in-laws and parents from abroad using the EU Settlement Scheme. If your parents aren't dependent, it's fine. The Home Office "assumes" the dependency and doesn't ask to see anything to confirm it. You being non-EU is also ok as they accept your family members the same way they would for an EEA national.marynatassos wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:33 pmHello All,
I hope somebody can help me.
I am non EU, married to EU citizen and we both have settled status now. After reading on gov.com and this forum I decided to apply for EUSS for my non EU parents.
But I just had a call with immigration lawyer and he said that I can only apply for them if they are already in the UK, for example on tourist visa.
My parents are not in UK at the moment and they do not depend on me, so there is no way for them to join me?
So question, did anyone applied for EUSS family permit for their non EU parent while they were outside of the UK?
Thank you for any help.
M
Hi there,Zerubbabel wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:51 pmPeople are just doing that all the time. Just search in the forum, there are bringing in-laws and parents from abroad using the EU Settlement Scheme. If your parents aren't dependent, it's fine. The Home Office "assumes" the dependency and doesn't ask to see anything to confirm it. You being non-EU is also ok as they accept your family members the same way they would for an EEA national.marynatassos wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:33 pmHello All,
I hope somebody can help me.
I am non EU, married to EU citizen and we both have settled status now. After reading on gov.com and this forum I decided to apply for EUSS for my non EU parents.
But I just had a call with immigration lawyer and he said that I can only apply for them if they are already in the UK, for example on tourist visa.
My parents are not in UK at the moment and they do not depend on me, so there is no way for them to join me?
So question, did anyone applied for EUSS family permit for their non EU parent while they were outside of the UK?
Thank you for any help.
M
Most people who bring relatives don't truly realise the cost. So the dependency will end up claimed against the community. But the immigration system in this country is meant to be irrational and unfair.JB007 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:59 pmOr they have to end up paying for their dependants themselves? The UK and Germany said they found people were using free movement for what they can take, with the UK saying they would stop that and they are.Zerubbabel wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:08 amLet's wait January and you will see.
I am not claiming they are going to revoke the EUSS or ignore the withdrawal agreement. However, in that Agreement, it has never been said, signed and guaranteed that a non-EU citizen can bring non-EU citizens because he/she is married to an EU citizen. That's to say, a Pakistani married to a Polish, can now automatically bring his mother and father under the Withdrawal Agreement. We are in a country where many British citizen cannot bring a husband or a wife and parents are separated from their children because they don't meet the financial requirements.
I think that the current application of the EUSS went well beyond the intent letter published after the Brexit. I think the Home Office is under political pressure to accept any application just for the UK to show good faith during the negotiations.
That where my rational comes from. If you are non-EEA and want to bring non-EEA, do it now as the country is going through exceptional circumstances that makes it possible. Watch this space in 2021 where you will see a storm of refusals as the Home Office gets more liberty to interpret the rules.
If you only look at the benefit side for those of UK state pension age and not for those of working age or for the NHS: on age UK-
You will need to have settled status to claim benefits like Pension Credit and Housing Benefit. You will need settled status to get help with housing from the council.
https://www.ageuk.org.uk/information-ad ... er-brexit/
Many believe that Pension Credit is a short lived benefit, why else would the UK raise the new state pension, to just above the cap for Pension Credit? The UK have already ended part of Pension Credit.
And Pension Credit, even if only 50p a week, is a passport to other benefits. e.g. full rent being paid, no council tax to pay, free tv licence. Those pensioners who have more pension amount than the Pension Credit cap, have to pay for themselves, even if they end up worse off than somebody claiming Pension Credit. It would be a vote winner to end Pension Credit.
Yes they can apply from outside the UK. That's what people are routinely doing.marynatassos wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:56 pmHi there,Zerubbabel wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:51 pmPeople are just doing that all the time. Just search in the forum, there are bringing in-laws and parents from abroad using the EU Settlement Scheme. If your parents aren't dependent, it's fine. The Home Office "assumes" the dependency and doesn't ask to see anything to confirm it. You being non-EU is also ok as they accept your family members the same way they would for an EEA national.marynatassos wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:33 pmHello All,
I hope somebody can help me.
I am non EU, married to EU citizen and we both have settled status now. After reading on gov.com and this forum I decided to apply for EUSS for my non EU parents.
But I just had a call with immigration lawyer and he said that I can only apply for them if they are already in the UK, for example on tourist visa.
My parents are not in UK at the moment and they do not depend on me, so there is no way for them to join me?
So question, did anyone applied for EUSS family permit for their non EU parent while they were outside of the UK?
Thank you for any help.
M
Tahnk you very much and sorry for same questions over and over. I am just reading through all posts.
But my question is - can they apply if they are not in the UK now, as I just spoke to the lawyer and he said that they can only apply of they are in the UK. This is confusing
Thanks a lot.
Thank you @1878. One more question please, when the close family members arrive in the UK with the EUSS Family Permit, how soon can they file for the EUSS pre-settled status? Reading some of the posts here in the forum suggest that they can as soon as they get here in the UK.
Thanks. I won’t risk expiring the current status before filing for a new one, that’s why I wanted that clarified. Would you know how soon one with FP can apply for pre-settled status? We plan to bring our old folks in Dec. I understand the FP is valid for 6 months so just want to know the earliest time we can put them to EUSS.Zerubbabel wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:17 pmWhy do you want to let your permit expire in the UK, have no status, then only apply?
As for any immigration application, you apply always before the end of the current status you hold.
Hi, we have also applied under the EUSS family permit for my mom. I’m a non Eu and my husband is a British/Irish.You have mentioned that you ticked off the financial dependency and entered a number but I don’t recall seeing that in the application. There’s also a part at the end of the checklist where it refers to the information about a visit, money, assets etc. Does it have to be provided as part of the EUSS FP?1878 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:25 amHi.
As a thank you to the forum I want to share my experience of how to successfully apply for a EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law.
I am a EEA national married to a Non-EEA national. We both received settled status earlier this year after having had permanent residence for a number of years.
I decided to only supply the bare minimum of documents which worked. We supplied:
Non-eea parents passports and ID cards.
VFS application centre confirmation
Application checklist
Our marriage certificate (translated and certified copy)
Non-EEA national birth certificate (translated and certified copy)
Copy of EEA national passport
Copy of Non-EEA national passport
Copy of Non-EEA national ID card (back and front)
We uploaded everything online and the applicants brought their passports, ID cards and copy of checklist and appointment confirmation to the centre.
I ticked off for financial dependency and entered a number but did not supply proof of this as dependency is assumed.
Biometrics done 6th August, e-mailed paid UKVI service which confirmed on 26th Aug decision had been made. Today 18th Sep parents-in-law went to VFS centre to collect their passport without receiving any notification. Visa sticker stamped with 17th August.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Hi, im EU national and applying for Same EUSS family permit for my non EEA father in law, i ticked yes for financial dependency option and enter the amount as you said above1878 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:25 amHi.
As a thank you to the forum I want to share my experience of how to successfully apply for a EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law.
I am a EEA national married to a Non-EEA national. We both received settled status earlier this year after having had permanent residence for a number of years.
I decided to only supply the bare minimum of documents which worked. We supplied:
Non-eea parents passports and ID cards.
VFS application centre confirmation
Application checklist
Our marriage certificate (translated and certified copy)
Non-EEA national birth certificate (translated and certified copy)
Copy of EEA national passport
Copy of Non-EEA national passport
Copy of Non-EEA national ID card (back and front)
We uploaded everything online and the applicants brought their passports, ID cards and copy of checklist and appointment confirmation to the centre.
I ticked off for financial dependency and entered a number but did not supply proof of this as dependency is assumed.
Biometrics done 6th August, e-mailed paid UKVI service which confirmed on 26th Aug decision had been made. Today 18th Sep parents-in-law went to VFS centre to collect their passport without receiving any notification. Visa sticker stamped with 17th August.
Let me know if you have any questions.
1878 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:25 amHi.
As a thank you to the forum I want to share my experience of how to successfully apply for a EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law.
I am a EEA national married to a Non-EEA national. We both received settled status earlier this year after having had permanent residence for a number of years.
I decided to only supply the bare minimum of documents which worked. We supplied:
Non-eea parents passports and ID cards.
VFS application centre confirmation
Application checklist
Our marriage certificate (translated and certified copy)
Non-EEA national birth certificate (translated and certified copy)
Copy of EEA national passport
Copy of Non-EEA national passport
Copy of Non-EEA national ID card (back and front)
We uploaded everything online and the applicants brought their passports, ID cards and copy of checklist and appointment confirmation to the centre.
I ticked off for financial dependency and entered a number but did not supply proof of this as dependency is assumed.
Biometrics done 6th August, e-mailed paid UKVI service which confirmed on 26th Aug decision had been made. Today 18th Sep parents-in-law went to VFS centre to collect their passport without receiving any notification. Visa sticker stamped with 17th August.
Let me know if you have any questions.
LillyPearl wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:00 pmSo, if dependency is assumed and there is no need to provide proof of money transfers, why do we have to tick yes in the relevant box? I would expect that ticking yes or no for dependency will make no difference.
And, yes, I ticked no on behalf of my mother, and there is no way to correct it now, so based on what is said above, the application will be rejected and all this will be an exercise in nothing and we will miss the 30th June deadline and then I will have to start sending her money for real so that we can apply again in the future with proof that she is financially dependent. Am I right in this?
Presumably you meant that your non-EU wife is the daughter of the applicant, not the mother?