BRP Application - mandatory passports to my appointment?

[csva00]

I'm Indonesian passport holder, I was born there and my mum is Indonesian passport holder too.
When she married my British stepdad, I was granted ILE and my mum entered on a spouse visa and was granted ILR.
They were both granted in 2006, however my ILE visa appears to have an expiry date of 2008.
None of this really meant anything to me when I was younger until now I would like to travel outside of the UK and was looking into my visa status. I moved to the UK and have been living here since 2006 now, I have only been out of the country for a month in 2012, where I had trouble with the airlines returning back to the UK. And today, I had trouble with the Indonesian embassy, there was some confusion and they tried to tell me my visa has expired and that I'm illegally here, that I could get into trouble etc (the same thing that happened with an airline in 2012)

If anyone could explain to me what ILE means, how it differs from ILR, etc. Am I here legally? I'm worried to be deported back to Indonesia even though I've lived all my life here in the UK pretty much.
Also if I try to travel abroad for tourist reasons next summer, will I be able to re-enter the UK? What do I tell the immigration officers? The last time I traveled, after hours of confusion, the airline had to confirm with home office before I was allowed on my flight home. I'm worried to have to encounter the same experience again next time I travel.

[aman90]

ILE means indefinite leave to enter.
It has no expiry date,as such, just as long as ur passport.
You’ll need a BRP to travel.

[aman90]

6. ECB9.6 Indefinite Leave to Enter (ILE) and Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR)
Applicants who are granted Indefinite Leave to Enter (ILE) at a visa issuing Post should have no time restrictions on their stay in the UK, that is, they can stay indefinitely. ILE carries the same entitlement as ‘Indefinite Leave to Remain’ (ILR) which is issued by the UK Border Agency to those who have already travelled to the UK. Anyone who has ILE does not have to apply for ILR when in the UK.

Although indefinite leave, by definition, will not expire, the ECO is unable to issue a visa to those who meet the criteria for ILE without putting a ‘validity date’ on the visa. In cases of ILE the ‘validity date’ on the visa should match the expiry date on the passport. When the applicant gets a new passport, they can apply to UK Border Agency for a transfer of conditions into their new passport. They do not need to apply for Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR).

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... remain-ilr

[csva00]

It has no expiry date,as such, just as long as ur passport.
You’ll need a BRP to travel.

On my ILE visa in my passport, there is an expiry date of 01/06/2008 (two years after it was valid). This is what has caused so much confusion at embassies and airlines as they claim my visa has expired.

I read in another forum post on here that as soon as someone with ILE enters the UK, they automatically become granted ILR when there's an entry stamp on the visa (which I have). Is this true?

Also I am 17 years of age currently, my mum has a BRP but is it essential for me to obtain one as well?

I've checked on the government website and it states "You can use the valid visa in your expired passport when you’re travelling to and from the UK. You’ll need to travel with your expired and your new passport." and it goes on to list "You can also choose to either: replace your visa with a BRP" which suggests that it's an option, but isn't absolutely essential?

[seagul]

On my ILE visa in my passport, there is an expiry date of 01/06/2008 (two years after it was valid). This is what has caused so much confusion at embassies and airlines as they claim my visa has expired.

In cases of ILE the ‘validity date’ on the visa should match the expiry date on the passport. When the applicant gets a new passport,
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... remain-ilr

I read in another forum post on here that as soon as someone with ILE enters the UK, they automatically become granted ILR when there's an entry stamp on the visa (which I have). Is this true?

ILE is same as ILR

When the applicant gets a new passport, they can apply to UK Border Agency for a transfer of conditions into their new passport. They do not need to apply for Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR).

Better to transfer it to BRP
https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... 1536463644

[aman90]

Point is if you are happy to deal with the ignorance then let it be..
Carry ur current passport plus the one containing the vignette. Carry a copy of the statement that allows you to do so and show to airlines and immigration officials in other countries.
Even then not everyone’s gonna believe you. You will encounter someone who will waste ur time, energy and money.

[vinny]

Applying for NTL will be necessary, if seeking new employment or rented accommodation.

Alternatively, consider applying for registration now or applying for naturalisation when 18 or over.

[csva00]

Point is if you are happy to deal with the ignorance then let it be..
Carry ur current passport plus the one containing the vignette. Carry a copy of the statement that allows you to do so and show to airlines and immigration officials in other countries.
Even then not everyone’s gonna believe you. You will encounter someone who will waste ur time, energy and money.

That's true! Thank you

[csva00]

Hi there,

I'm currently applying for a BRP with my appointment at one of the UKVCAS centres this coming Monday.
I've been through the checklist and have uploaded all the required documents such as proofs of residence, address etc etc onto the website.
However I'm unsure about when it talks about my passports including any expired ones. Am I meant to upload the entire passports on the website? Or am I simply meant to bring the physical passports to my appointments? Or even both. I haven't paid for the document scanning or document checking.


Thanks

[CR001]

You need to upload the passports entirely.

[csva00]

You need to upload the passports entirely.

all of the pages of every single passport? Including all of the empty pages in the middle?

[CR001]

You need to upload the passports entirely.

all of the pages of every single passport? Including all of the empty pages in the middle?

Yes, since the date your ILE vignette expired to prove you have not lost your ILE status due to absence of 2 years or more.

I have merged your topics.

[csva00]

So i'm just adding this question to my pre-existing topic:


I'm currently of Indonesian nationality with Indefinite Leave to Remain in the UK and have been leaving here for almost 15 years now.
I'm born to a French passport-holder (my father) and I was wondering if I changed from Indonesian to French nationality, would my ILR still be valid and I'd be able to continue living in the UK? I'm just wondering this because I feel like holding a EU passport would be more beneficial?