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Hialan771077 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:41 pmHi there . I just need some help of info from somebody as it's so hard to find it online . I'm irish Citizen and my wife is Russian , she can travel with me under treaty rights . Is this still applicable to the UK as we want to travel there and see relatives. We are currently in Montenegro but will go to Germany shortly and want to then go to UK for a few weeks. She hasn't status yet in Ireland as we will apply for that early next year. I was just going to go to the UK border and get her entry under treaty rights as she doesnt have a entry visa. Many thanks in Advance
Hi , no she doesn't hold any cards , we have only got married last week in Montenegro as it was only country we could both travel freely too. We had planned to marry in Russia during the summer but due to virus we could not. Of course she can return home and apply for UK vist visa for EU family member but she needs to do biometrics and the nearest place is 6 hour plane journey , so hence hoping to just go to border and get her entry under treaty right.Zerubbabel wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:50 amDoes she hold a card of a Family Member of a Union Citizen?
White_Pearl wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:38 pmHialan771077 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:41 pmHi there . I just need some help of info from somebody as it's so hard to find it online . I'm irish Citizen and my wife is Russian , she can travel with me under treaty rights . Is this still applicable to the UK as we want to travel there and see relatives. We are currently in Montenegro but will go to Germany shortly and want to then go to UK for a few weeks. She hasn't status yet in Ireland as we will apply for that early next year. I was just going to go to the UK border and get her entry under treaty rights as she doesnt have a entry visa. Many thanks in Advance
She should be ok, if she can prove that she is a family member of EU citizen.
So you both, should carry your marriage cert+ passport/id.
More senior experience members on this forum will know better than me.
Will she has visa for Germany?
How you gona cross bosnia and herzegovina without visa for her? As bosnia and herzegovina is non-eu?alan771077 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:03 pmWhite_Pearl wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:38 pmHialan771077 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:41 pmHi there . I just need some help of info from somebody as it's so hard to find it online . I'm irish Citizen and my wife is Russian , she can travel with me under treaty rights . Is this still applicable to the UK as we want to travel there and see relatives. We are currently in Montenegro but will go to Germany shortly and want to then go to UK for a few weeks. She hasn't status yet in Ireland as we will apply for that early next year. I was just going to go to the UK border and get her entry under treaty rights as she doesnt have a entry visa. Many thanks in Advance
She should be ok, if she can prove that she is a family member of EU citizen.
So you both, should carry your marriage cert+ passport/id.
More senior experience members on this forum will know better than me.
Will she has visa for Germany?
Is the treaty rights the same for irish citizen as a EU citizen , just with common travel area and so on , I'm worried that its different for Irish Citizen. We dont have visa for Germany either but again will get a border. We plan to drive through Croatia to Slovenia and then into Germany and then eventually to Calais to go to UK border controll there. Will use treaty rights at Croatian border and then and Slovenia which then puts us in Shengin
Thank you for congratulations, but we wont have time to apply for a card as she will need to travel home and if she will go back to Russia we dont know how long before she can travel again because of corona and then we have expense of another flight back to Europe if indeed one can be gotZerubbabel wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:05 pmCongratulations.
Now, you need to apply for the EEA card before travelling across Europe visa free.
No airline would let you board just with your marriage certificate. You need the EEA card.
Actually, some airlines, to this day, still don't know that EEA cards let you travel visa free to EEA countries and cause undue delays and escalations during the check-in.
We will go through Croatia and then to Slovenia . Once we are in transit through both Slovenia and croatia you have 12 hours to cross either countryWhite_Pearl wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:06 pmHow you gona cross bosnia and herzegovina without visa for her? As bosnia and herzegovina is non-eu?alan771077 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:03 pmWhite_Pearl wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:38 pmHialan771077 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:41 pmHi there . I just need some help of info from somebody as it's so hard to find it online . I'm irish Citizen and my wife is Russian , she can travel with me under treaty rights . Is this still applicable to the UK as we want to travel there and see relatives. We are currently in Montenegro but will go to Germany shortly and want to then go to UK for a few weeks. She hasn't status yet in Ireland as we will apply for that early next year. I was just going to go to the UK border and get her entry under treaty rights as she doesnt have a entry visa. Many thanks in Advance
She should be ok, if she can prove that she is a family member of EU citizen.
So you both, should carry your marriage cert+ passport/id.
More senior experience members on this forum will know better than me.
Will she has visa for Germany?
Is the treaty rights the same for irish citizen as a EU citizen , just with common travel area and so on , I'm worried that its different for Irish Citizen. We dont have visa for Germany either but again will get a border. We plan to drive through Croatia to Slovenia and then into Germany and then eventually to Calais to go to UK border controll there. Will use treaty rights at Croatian border and then and Slovenia which then puts us in Shengin
And you might need also negative covid, tests.
Plan well before making this move....
Yes you can enter Croatia and Slovenia without test or without isolation if you will transit only through the country. It's on the goverment pages of both countries . It was also same for me on my way to Montenegro as I had to fly through Belgrade, Serbia is not on green list for Montenegro but because I had just used for transit I didnt need to IsolateWhite_Pearl wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:41 pm12 hours transit for croatia and slovenia? Can you share any link for this. I havent heard abt this before.
And you being an Irish Citizen, eu citizen, gives you and your direct family members to travel around together with u, in UK and all other eu countries without a visa, but at the border you will have to proof your relation with her.
But this eu directive/eu treaty rights will not apply in Ireland to you, for Irish you will have to apply the irish visa for her. For UK it will be fine until 31 dec 2020. All info is shared by a link by other members in the previous posts/messages.
You are good to go, but only thing keep in mind regarding the corona restrictions around.
And share your experience after 2 weeks good luck
Thanks for info , but in which Embassy should we apply in Podgorica, I think though the time frame will be against us in relation to getting it before we leave .saddleback wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:29 pmApply for EEA family permit in Podgorica. You can make the case that you are both temporarily residing in Montenegro and this is the reason for applying in MNE. This may be problematic, however. You will be asked for supporting documentation and this may include the need to prove common address, etc.
Now, you also have the option of applying for a EEA family permit in Russia. This should not be easier or harder route, it is just a second option.
In both cases, you need to be clear about your grounds for applying for entry into UK. If your are working or studying in the UK, this needs to be documented. If you have at present no connection to UK, you need to be clear about stating that you will be exercising your right of residence in UK for the first 3 months while you are looking for work/study course, etc.
In every case, familiarise yourself with Directive 38/2004/EC and the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2006 in making your case.
Good luck
Hi when are you travelling?alan771077 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:41 pmHi there . I just need some help of info from somebody as it's so hard to find it online . I'm irish Citizen and my wife is Russian , she can travel with me under treaty rights . Is this still applicable to the UK as we want to travel there and see relatives. We are currently in Montenegro but will go to Germany shortly and want to then go to UK for a few weeks. She hasn't status yet in Ireland as we will apply for that early next year. I was just going to go to the UK border and get her entry under treaty rights as she doesnt have a entry visa. Many thanks in Advance
I second that. I don't know why the OP is making it complicated by trying to cross many European countries with a fresh marriage certificate. For me, it sounds like asking for trouble. While I understand the theoretical reasoning behind, I think it's too much hassle to enjoy the trip.CroUK wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:49 amCroatia is like Hungary and Poland very strick to letting people in without proper documents. So if person doesnt have correct document he would be stuck on the border between Montenegro and Croatia. (Eeastern European country are not famous for easy border crossing like maybe UK or Ireland).