should our British child be listed as a dependent on FLR(m) application??

[AmazonianX]

I have lots of correspondence for 2 years but it's the first month where we lived with our parents. I feel like I should include a letter from them for this month. What do others think?
by the way, why do they ask for correspondence for 2 years (24 months) if my wife's been here for more than that i.e. almost 33 months? they're only interested in the last 24 months? To allow for settlement, finding your feet and semblance of balance in the first 6 months.

I have also been asked for
1. "Evidence to support my claim it would be difficult for me to establish a private life outside the UK"

and

2. "Documents supporting my other reasons to stay in the UK"

What can I submit as evidence here?

[seagul]

I have lots of correspondence for 2 years but it's the first month where we lived with our parents.

You only need to supply cohabitation evidences covering the last 24 months from the date of application and doesn't need any letter from parents conforming your residence. In most scenarios, the first 6 months after the issuance of spouse visa/flrm the cohabitation evidences can skipped, therefore, that letter won't be needed at all, the same said earlier but was invaded by some snooty members.

[Korekt]

There is no need to veering off the original crux through rubbernecking, and by inserting an impertinent case study which I am sure you shouldn't have studied in its entirety. At numerous times at preveniently, I had edified you that these case studies isn't a legislation rather a judgement regarding a particular case which differs from case to case. Try to delve at other forums too where you will see that cohabitation evidences sometimes aren't asked pacifically due to the invasion of substantial hodgepodge over the online application system & its checklist. Aside this, unlike to paper application the online application covers all scenarios where despite you are being asked something but aren't realistically required to purvey that and vice versa. Repetitively, the case study anyone can find through Google search by typing their scrumptious content, doesn't always fit into another person's scenario due to not form any legislation/covenant.

What's all this rambling for? Do you teach grammar no one uses?

[seagul]

If you have 2 years of cohabitation evidences then you don't need this letter at all.

It would appear the applicant does not have this

Since your astrology about op's circumstance has manifestly be proven inaccurate which even worsened with a hastily google searched case study. Therefore, better to apologise from op and just relinquish such ill practice of guessing and simply join the silent audience if have got nothing relevant. I hope it is enough edification. Good luck. Nice weekend.

[Korekt]

If you have 2 years of cohabitation evidences then you don't need this letter at all.

It would appear the applicant does not have this

Since your astrology about op's circumstance has manifestly be proven inaccurate which even worsened with a hastily google searched case study. Therefore, better to apologise from op and just relinquish such ill practice of guessing and simply join the silent audience if have got nothing relevant. I hope it is enough edification. Good luck. Nice weekend.

I know you can't help yourself and loves having the last word even if it means rambling on.

Go on, have it; the last word.

Out of regard for the OP, I rest my case.

[Ht1]

I have lots of correspondence for 2 years but it's the first month where we lived with our parents.

You only need to supply cohabitation evidences covering the last 24 months from the date of application and doesn't need any letter from parents conforming your residence. In most scenarios, the first 6 months after the issuance of spouse visa/flrm the cohabitation evidences can skipped, therefore, that letter won't be needed at all, the same said earlier but was invaded by some snooty members.

thanks seagul.

which pages of her passport do i need to scan and send? just the photo page and the page with the vignette on it?

i have compiled everything they've asked for so there are no anomalies that need explanation to the case worker. is it a good idea to include a cover letter anyways? I saw this recommended here: https://www.migrate.org.uk/flr-m-2018/# ... ng-letters

[seagul]

I have lots of correspondence for 2 years but it's the first month where we lived with our parents.

You only need to supply cohabitation evidences covering the last 24 months from the date of application and doesn't need any letter from parents conforming your residence. In most scenarios, the first 6 months after the issuance of spouse visa/flrm the cohabitation evidences can skipped, therefore, that letter won't be needed at all, the same said earlier but was invaded by some snooty members.

thanks seagul.

which pages of her passport do i need to scan and send? just the photo page and the page with the vignette on it?

i have compiled everything they've asked for so there are no anomalies that need explanation to the case worker. is it a good idea to include a cover letter anyways? I saw this recommended here: https://www.migrate.org.uk/flr-m-2018/# ... ng-letters

There are mix experiences & opinions but better to scan all pages including the blank ones as well. If there is no anomaly to clarify then you can choose not to attach it (covering letter).

[Ht1]

I have lots of correspondence for 2 years but it's the first month where we lived with our parents.

You only need to supply cohabitation evidences covering the last 24 months from the date of application and doesn't need any letter from parents conforming your residence. In most scenarios, the first 6 months after the issuance of spouse visa/flrm the cohabitation evidences can skipped, therefore, that letter won't be needed at all, the same said earlier but was invaded by some snooty members.

thanks seagul.

which pages of her passport do i need to scan and send? just the photo page and the page with the vignette on it?

i have compiled everything they've asked for so there are no anomalies that need explanation to the case worker. is it a good idea to include a cover letter anyways? I saw this recommended here: https://www.migrate.org.uk/flr-m-2018/# ... ng-letters

There are mix experiences & opinions but better to scan all pages including the blank ones as well. If there is no anomaly to clarify then you can choose not to attach it (covering letter).

thanks once again seagul.
1. when they ask for proof of my british citizenship, just the photo pages of my passport will suffice right?

2. when they ask for proof of correspondence, the app says "The dates of the items of correspondence should be spread evenly over the whole 2 years." I have included Council tax bills for the last 2 years (as we get one for the whole year), a months bank statement from 2018, 2019 and 2020, our 2020-21 water bill and our latest gas and electricity bill that covers Feb-September 2020. so that's 7 documents from 4 sources. is that evenly spread enough? lol

[seagul]

You only need to supply cohabitation evidences covering the last 24 months from the date of application and doesn't need any letter from parents conforming your residence. In most scenarios, the first 6 months after the issuance of spouse visa/flrm the cohabitation evidences can skipped, therefore, that letter won't be needed at all, the same said earlier but was invaded by some snooty members.

thanks seagul.

which pages of her passport do i need to scan and send? just the photo page and the page with the vignette on it?

i have compiled everything they've asked for so there are no anomalies that need explanation to the case worker. is it a good idea to include a cover letter anyways? I saw this recommended here: https://www.migrate.org.uk/flr-m-2018/# ... ng-letters

There are mix experiences & opinions but better to scan all pages including the blank ones as well. If there is no anomaly to clarify then you can choose not to attach it (covering letter).

thanks once again seagul.
1. when they ask for proof of my british citizenship, just the photo pages of my passport will suffice right?

2. when they ask for proof of correspondence, the app says "The dates of the items of correspondence should be spread evenly over the whole 2 years." I have included Council tax bills for the last 2 years (as we get one for the whole year), a months bank statement from 2018, 2019 and 2020, our 2020-21 water bill and our latest gas and electricity bill that covers Feb-September 2020. so that's 7 documents from 4 sources. is that evenly spread enough? lol

1. Yes

2. Fine but make sure to spread these with even gaps of 3-4 months. For this purpose you can even include anything such as any letter from NHS/DVLA/hmrc etc.

[Ht1]

hi seagul,

the issue with utility bills is that they are issued once or twice a year as they cover multiple months. bank statements, which i can access via online banking, are broken down month wise so much easier to space out. i already have 7 documents from 4 different sources in joint names so to space them out for every 4 months, as you say, should i just add more bank statements? if you don't recommend that then can i just upload as many docs with mine and my wife's name on them that i can get hold of (but not on the same doc i.e. one will have just her name and another will have just my name-the address will be the same of course)?

here's what I've uploaded so far (all are in both our names):

1. council tax bill for 2017/18.
2. council tax bill for 2019/20.
3. gas and electricity bill issued in october 2020 that covers feb-september 2020.
4. water bill issued in march 2020 that covers april 2020-march 2021
5. bank statement from 1st march 2018-29th march 2018
6. bank statement from 31st may 2019-28th june 2019
7. bank statement from 30th may 2020-30th june 2020

[seagul]

hi seagul,
? if you don't recommend that then can i just upload as many docs with mine and my wife's name on them that i can get hold of (but not on the same doc i.e. one will have just her name and another will have just my name-the address will be the same of course)?

It will be wise in doing so where you may add multitude range of documents addressed in sole names because in my view, despite some documents such as council tax & utility bills are issued yearly covering the whole year but still its date of issuance will matter instead the duration. For this purpose, you can attach any document representing yours names & address.

[Ht1]

thanks once again seagul. i'll find more documents to upload.

for my wife's english language assessment, we got in touch with NARIC and they sent us a letter stating that based on the documents we've sent, her English level is B1 (we had already gotten her equivalency certificate from NARIC soon after she came to the UK 2 years ago). in that letter was another piece of paper that states "In addition to the English Language Assessment you may wish to receive a UK NARIC Certificate of English Language Assessment for the qualification named above."

do i need this? it'll cost extra and God knows when it'll get to us by.

[seagul]

thanks once again seagul. i'll find more documents to upload.

for my wife's english language assessment, we got in touch with NARIC and they sent us a letter stating that based on the documents we've sent, her English level is B1 (we had already gotten her equivalency certificate from NARIC soon after she came to the UK 2 years ago). in that letter was another piece of paper that states "In addition to the English Language Assessment you may wish to receive a UK NARIC Certificate of English Language Assessment for the qualification named above."

do i need this? it'll cost extra and God knows when it'll get to us by.

Yes you need another letter from NARIC regarding your English proficiency apart of the comparability report. Usually the price charge for red route covers both reports/statements.

[Ht1]

this is the text that was in the email we got from them: "A PDF of your English Language Assessment is attached".

text taken from the PDF they sent says: "Level of English: The level of English language for the above degree course is considered to meet the requirements of CEFR level B1"

this won't suffice? when we asked for this service they told us it's the english language assessment and their receipt says the same.

if this won't suffice, any idea how long it'll take them to send me this additional certificate based on what you've seen in other parts of this site?

thanks!

[seagul]

this is the text that was in the email we got from them: "A PDF of your English Language Assessment is attached".

text taken from the PDF they sent says: "Level of English: The level of English language for the above degree course is considered to meet the requirements of CEFR level B1"

this won't suffice? when we asked for this service they told us it's the english language assessment and their receipt says the same.

if this won't suffice, any idea how long it'll take them to send me this additional certificate based on what you've seen in other parts of this site?

thanks!

There are few faqs at below but you should speak with them as a first thing tommorrow morning. Despite above I have noticed that they are pretty quicker in responding & processing.

https://www.naric.org.uk/Qualifications/FAQ.aspx

[Ht1]

yes, i'll call them tomorrow. when i search for NARIC english language assessment certificate, this comes up: https://www.naric.org.uk/Documents/Qual ... LA/ELA.pdf

this is exactly what we've already got from them :S

[seagul]

yes, i'll call them tomorrow. when i search for NARIC english language assessment certificate, this comes up: https://www.naric.org.uk/Documents/Qual ... LA/ELA.pdf

this is exactly what we've already got from them :S

This seems a comparability report only. And, at its bottom you can clearly read the instruction & the cost involved. But do make sure to obtain NARIC English proficiency certificate as well.

[Ht1]

spoke to them earlier today and what they've sent me is sufficient. the certificate they mention is purely a "decorative piece of paper for people to put on their walls". those were their words-not mine lol.

[Ht1]

hi seagul,

one last question as the app is almost ready. do i need to write a cover letter? there are no anomalies or docs we've missed which they've asked for. the only thing that could need an explanation is that the council tax bills for the last 2-3 years that i've uploaded state the date issued as the date i downloaded them off my council's website (so October 2020)-on the top of the bill though it states the years it's for. is that worth writing a cover letter for?

if you do recommend i write it, who should it be from i.e. me or my wife (the applicant)?

thanks!

[seagul]

hi seagul,

one last question as the app is almost ready. do i need to write a cover letter? there are no anomalies or docs we've missed which they've asked for. the only thing that could need an explanation is that the council tax bills for the last 2-3 years that i've uploaded state the date issued as the date i downloaded them off my council's website (so October 2020)-on the top of the bill though it states the years it's for. is that worth writing a cover letter for?

if you do recommend i write it, who should it be from i.e. me or my wife (the applicant)?

thanks!

If there is no ambiguity with the case then you can go ahead without the covering letter but still no harm in attaching it especially spotlighting the financial calculations (if you wish so).
That letter can be written from either of you.

[Ht1]

hi seagul,

one last question as the app is almost ready. do i need to write a cover letter? there are no anomalies or docs we've missed which they've asked for. the only thing that could need an explanation is that the council tax bills for the last 2-3 years that i've uploaded state the date issued as the date i downloaded them off my council's website (so October 2020)-on the top of the bill though it states the years it's for. is that worth writing a cover letter for?

if you do recommend i write it, who should it be from i.e. me or my wife (the applicant)?

thanks!

If there is no ambiguity with the case then you can go ahead without the covering letter but still no harm in attaching it especially spotlighting the financial calculations (if you wish so).
That letter can be written from either of you.

great. thanks.

i will add a cover letter but i don't want to go over board with what i include. please highlight from the list below what you recommend i should include:

1. how me and my wife met.
2. my citizenship status and how much i earn.
3. where we live and that i've attached docs showing i have a mortgage on it.
4. clarify the 'date issued' discrepancy on the council tax bills.
5. in the app, i selected the option that says "Not the same amount continuously, above the
financial requirement amount" when it asked what i earn. this is because i have a gross salary plus a commission that's paid 3-4 times a year. should i include this commission explanation in the cover letter to explain why i selected that particular option?
6. in one section, it asked for details of any previous addresses. i added that we stayed with my parents for 1 month after her arrival. given this was more than 2 years ago, is there any point in adding this to the cover letter (as they're only concerned with the last 2 years)?

please excuse my long questions. just being over cautious

[AmazonianX]

hi seagul,

one last question as the app is almost ready. do i need to write a cover letter? there are no anomalies or docs we've missed which they've asked for. the only thing that could need an explanation is that the council tax bills for the last 2-3 years that i've uploaded state the date issued as the date i downloaded them off my council's website (so October 2020)-on the top of the bill though it states the years it's for. is that worth writing a cover letter for?

if you do recommend i write it, who should it be from i.e. me or my wife (the applicant)?

thanks!

If there is no ambiguity with the case then you can go ahead without the covering letter but still no harm in attaching it especially spotlighting the financial calculations (if you wish so).
That letter can be written from either of you.

great. thanks.

i will add a cover letter but i don't want to go over board with what i include. please highlight from the list below what you recommend i should include:

1. how me and my wife met.
2. my citizenship status and how much i earn.
3. where we live and that i've attached docs showing i have a mortgage on it.
4. clarify the 'date issued' discrepancy on the council tax bills.
5. in the app, i selected the option that says "Not the same amount continuously, above the
financial requirement amount" when it asked what i earn. this is because i have a gross salary plus a commission that's paid 3-4 times a year. should i include this commission explanation in the cover letter to explain why i selected that particular option?
6. in one section, it asked for details of any previous addresses. i added that we stayed with my parents for 1 month after her arrival. given this was more than 2 years ago, is there any point in adding this to the cover letter (as they're only concerned with the last 2 years)?

please excuse my long questions. just being over cautious

It's alright to be cautious, the time it takes and money it cost are significant.
Cover letter is for addressing any points whatsoever you think needs clarifying and the ones you listed can be.
Things about meeting financial requirement including showing calculation of how you meet it should also be in the cover letter.

[Ht1]

thanks AmazonianX!

1. i submitted the documentation yesterday and our appointment is on 7th november. when they say it'll take them 6-8 weeks to make a decision, that'll start from 7th november right?

2. will it effect her application in any way if she and i travel outside the UK during those 6-8 weeks?

3. on the app, it asks for this "Optionally, I will provide the following documents: Evidence to support my claim it would be difficult or impossible to integrate and establish a private life outside the UK"
what can i include to satisfy this part?

[AmazonianX]

thanks AmazonianX!

1. i submitted the documentation yesterday and our appointment is on 7th november. when they say it'll take them 6-8 weeks to make a decision, that'll start from 7th november right? Taken to mean start from date of biometrics submission though suspect some activity already ongoing at normal times.

2. will it effect her application in any way if she and i travel outside the UK during those 6-8 weeks? Yes, it will be taken that you withdraw you present application with HO. So do not travel.

3. on the app, it asks for this "Optionally, I will provide the following documents: Evidence to support my claim it would be difficult or impossible to integrate and establish a private life outside the UK"
what can i include to satisfy this part? Details about your ties or settled and integrated life in the UK. Child or children, work or business.

[Ht1]

thanks AmazonianX!

1. i submitted the documentation yesterday and our appointment is on 7th november. when they say it'll take them 6-8 weeks to make a decision, that'll start from 7th november right? Taken to mean start from date of biometrics submission though suspect some activity already ongoing at normal times.

2. will it effect her application in any way if she and i travel outside the UK during those 6-8 weeks? Yes, it will be taken that you withdraw you present application with HO. So do not travel.

3. on the app, it asks for this "Optionally, I will provide the following documents: Evidence to support my claim it would be difficult or impossible to integrate and establish a private life outside the UK"
what can i include to satisfy this part? Details about your ties or settled and integrated life in the UK. Child or children, work or business. i have already submitted my job contract, letter from employer, my daughter's birth certificate, mortgage offer, utility bills, council tax. is that sufficient to to satisfy this part? i'm unsure what else would address my ties to a settled life in the UK.

in the app, they asked "Please give details of any previous addresses (including country if outside the UK), how long you lived there and whether you lived at this address with your partner". here i said that we lived with my parents from end of feb till end of march 2018. as this was well over 2 years ago, do i need to include a letter from my parents? (i've asked this before but just confirming by asking again-sorry).