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TFL Fine query for naturalisation application

Post by PoolX1 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:28 pm

Dear Members,

Can you please help me with an urgent query regarding my naturalisation application which i am planning to submit today. In December 2014 or January 2015, while travelling on London Underground, i was fined by a ticket inspector for not having a valid oyster card. I received a £100 fine for it and i paid it immediately online. Do i need to declare this or should i leave it as its quite old and it didn't lead to any conviction?

That is the only fine i have ever received in the UK in the last 11 years.

Thank you in advance

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Re: TFL Fine query for naturalisation application

Post by CULLINAN » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:44 pm

Seems like you received a penalty fare notice? Was it £100 or £80??
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Re: TFL Fine query for naturalisation application

Post by PoolX1 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:00 pm

Hi Cullinan,

Thank you for your reply. It was £100 as far as i remember. As the oyster card wasn't touched in the inspector took my details and i received a letter few days later in the post about the incident and asking to plead guilty and pay a fine of £100. I pleaded guilty and paid the £100 fine online. The matter was resolved i believe but i am not sure whether to declare this on my application or not. I didn't declare on my ILR application too.
Thanks for your help

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Re: TFL Fine query for naturalisation application

Post by CULLINAN » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:06 pm

What did the letter exactly say? Do you remember?

Not all penalty for fares could lead to criminal convictions, some are civil. However, in case of london underground- TfL abide by the Greater London Authority Act 1999 -
Schedule 17; The Transport for London Act 2008 - Part 4; and the Criminal
Procedure and Investigations Act 1996.

I need more information as to what the letter said. Was it a penalty fare notice OR Single Justice Procedure Notice??

Looks like it was a SJPN as you plead guilty?
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Re: TFL Fine query for naturalisation application

Post by PoolX1 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:13 pm

I think it might be a SJPN. What happens in this case?

Initially i thought of not declaring it but today before submitting the application i was having second thoughts. I was thinking of mentioning this incident on the 'other information' section

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Re: TFL Fine query for naturalisation application

Post by CULLINAN » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:19 pm

Do not compare ILR with AN. AN falls under the good character requirements.
You do not have to worry about it. It is old and it will NOT impact your case.
I would advise you to declare it in “other penalty” section.
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