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This might or might not be accurate.seekingadvice87 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:31 pmyou have everything to show on return so you fine. You have your card to show on return from india no problem
kamoe wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:14 amThis might or might not be accurate.seekingadvice87 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:31 pmyou have everything to show on return so you fine. You have your card to show on return from india no problem
If you have paid attention to the last month or so of posts related to EEA BRCs here, you will know we have not collectively been able to confirm wether some EEA RCs will still be accepted on entry into the UK after January 1st 2021.
The advantage for the OP is that their travel is in February, so there will be at least a month for them to see what the pragmatic, first-hand experience is like of people who attempt to enter the UK on EEA RC after January 31st.
Of course this is what we all hope. I honestly believe the UK government is not intentionally planing to setting people up for failure. But, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.seekingadvice87 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:35 pmshe has uk residence card and pre settled status and cannot have problem returning to uk as she done everything uk asked including new pre settled status.
The UK government website also says EEA RCs cards will become invalid after December 31st 2020. It's there, black on white.uk government website state no new card to be sent if applicant already has residence card.
Sadly to break the news but... they have. That is the bottomline of the Windrush scandal, and why it is so relevant.if government said no need then they can't not allow traveller back
Note the above does not mean that the cards are necessary valid until June 30th, only that that is the date until when they chose to confirm validity. No idea why they chose to do this when the EU resolution centre is confirming validity until expiration date.Dear [My MP's name] MP,
Thank you for your letter of 8 December to the Home Secretary on behalf of [My name and address] about the use and validity of European Economic Area (EEA) Biometric Residence Cards (BRC’s) at the end December. Please note that you are receiving a reply from an official.
A valid EEA BRC can continue to be used for immigration and travel purposes until at least the end of the grace period on 30 June 2021. Non-EEA national family members whose cards expire can apply for a replacement document if they need one to board carriage to the UK. The Government will shortly provide updated information on the GOV.UK website with further advice on the use of biometric residence cards.
Holders of biometric residence cards are also able to access and share their immigration status online to evidence their status in the UK. Going forwards we will provide all foreign nationals coming and staying in the UK with access to their immigration information online instead of issuing physical documents that can be lost, stolen or tampered with, which will be the primary means for EEA citizens and their family members to prove their status in the UK.
Yours sincerely,
Xxxxxxx
Email: Public.Enquiries@homeoffice.gov.uk
Please do not name HO staff on the forum. You have not been given permission by them to do so.kamoe wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:31 pmI wrote to MP to please pass my question to the Home Office. I received the below response:
Note the above does not mean that the cards are necessary valid until June 30th, only that that is the date until when they chose to confirm validity. No idea why they chose to do this when the EU resolution centre is confirming validity until expiration date.Dear [My MP's name] MP,
Thank you for your letter of 8 December to the Home Secretary on behalf of [My name and address] about the use and validity of European Economic Area (EEA) Biometric Residence Cards (BRC’s) at the end December. Please note that you are receiving a reply from an official.
A valid EEA BRC can continue to be used for immigration and travel purposes until at least the end of the grace period on 30 June 2021. Non-EEA national family members whose cards expire can apply for a replacement document if they need one to board carriage to the UK. The Government will shortly provide updated information on the GOV.UK website with further advice on the use of biometric residence cards.
Holders of biometric residence cards are also able to access and share their immigration status online to evidence their status in the UK. Going forwards we will provide all foreign nationals coming and staying in the UK with access to their immigration information online instead of issuing physical documents that can be lost, stolen or tampered with, which will be the primary means for EEA citizens and their family members to prove their status in the UK.
Yours sincerely,
Xxxxxxx
Email: Public.Enquiries@homeoffice.gov.uk
Note it also does not specify if this applies to all cards, or only cards used to apply for the Settlement Scheme. Since I wrote to my MP from the point of view of someone having applied to the Settlement Scheme using my EEA BRC, I am broadly assuming the latter.
In conclusion, I believe a subset of our questions are answered. My takeaways are:
- It can be considered confirmed that cards used to apply for the Settlement Scheme will be valid after December 31st 2020, and at least until June 30th 2021.
- There are still some unknowns due to still contradictory information. It might be that some cards will be valid until their printed expiration date, and not only until June 30th 2021.
- An announcement with further details regarding BRCs is expected shortly.
- It is reasonable to assume EEA RC cards not used to apply for the Settlement Scheme will indeed become invalid after December 31st 2020.
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It is a standard warning that pertains to your switch from the EEA legislation-based BRC (EEA RC) to the one issued under UK legislation (EUSS BRP).darkpunk wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:00 amHi all,
I had called the Home Office EU Settlement Scheme Resolution Centre (0300 123 7379) on Thursday morning 10/12/2020 and spoke to a advisor who advised me that the BRC that I currently have which was issued under the EEA regulations will not be valid from the 31st of December 2020 even though my BRC expires in July 2023. The advisor also said that I will have to swap my current BRC which was issued under the EEA regulations to a EUSS BRC in-order for the BRC to be valid after the 31st December 2020.
As soon after terminating the call I quickly made an application online to swap my current BRC card which was issued under the EEA regulations to a EUSS BRC here -->(https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... nt-service). After completing the forms I was redirected to a outsourcing company website (Sopra Steria) here --> (https://www.ukvcas.co.uk/home-internal) and was asked to upload 1 mandatory proof of address and 2 Other proofs documents (Current Biometric Residence Card) and (Consent form for the Home Office to undertake checks) and book an appointment. I luckily got an appointment on Saturday 12/11/2020 evening which was like God sent and had to travel to Croydon to get this done.I had to re-do my face photo and the biometrics which cost me £136.99 SMS notification included even though the cards free and I am just doing a BRC swap just to reflect the EUSS status on my card (All payments were done at the time of the appointment booking online).
Monday morning I received an email from home office asking the below.
Good Morning
Thank you for your application to exchange your biometric residence card (BRC) issued under the EEA Regulations for a biometric residence card that reflects the leave you have been granted under the EU Settlement Scheme.
Please note that a BRC issued under EEA Regulations provides you with an exemption from the requirement to obtain a visa to travel to another Member State of the European Union. A BRC issued under the EU Settlement Scheme does not, and if you choose to exchange your current BRC for a BRC issued under the EU Settlement Scheme, you will be required to apply for a Schengen visa to travel to another EU Member State. You only need to apply to replace your biometric residence card issued under the EEA Regulations when it expires and then only if you intend to travel outside the United Kingdom, as you can rely upon your digital status to prove your right to stay, work or study in the United Kingdom.
Can you please confirm that you are therefore content to proceed with your application? We are unable to proceed with your application until you have confirmed if you are content to proceed.
Kind regards
This confused the hell out of me as the only reason why I went thought the whole swap thing is because I was advised by the EU Settlement Scheme Resolution Centre that my current BRC issued under the EEA regulations will not be valid from the 31st of December 2020.
I then replied to the email saying that they can proceed with my application and also asked him if I could use my current BRC card issued under the EEA regulations which was valid until July 2023 after 31st Dec 2020 if my new card which will reflect EUSS status does not arrive by the end of January. The case worker then only replied the below.
Good Morning,
Thank you for your e-mail.
Your confirmation to proceed has been noted and your application has been sent to the appropriate team for consideration.
Kind Regards,