Mata wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:45 pm
lolwe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:44 pm
@Mata, You dishonor all of the Zambrano carers who had to fight Social Services from 2012 onwards to remain with their children with your comments.
I have asked you to provide evidence of British children who were removed from the care of their parents and became look after children because their parents were Zambrano carers. So far you haven't.
Just because you work with the lucky ones, does not mean you got to see the entire picture.
For your information, there are no lucky looked after children. It is not lucky for a child to be separated from their parents and become a looked after child. Those children have gone through traumatic experinces, loss and separation. These arent lucky things, so please choose your words wisely.
I paste quotations from people who work in a variety of fields. From Social Services, to Parliament, to Human Rights, these people are clear that something is VERY WRONG with the way Zambrano carers are treated.
Contradicting yourself. Did you just said above that social services work very close with the HO to deport Zambrano carers and place their British chidren with foster carers.
I am not happy with the way Zambrano carers have been treated in the UK. At the same time, I am not happy with the way you try to intimidate them here.
Are you aware of the reasons why we are working so hard to create a Group Litigation Order? I suppose you think our efforts are unnecessary or exaggerated?
Focus on that then than sending out threats that the children will be removed from their care. The only thing I don't want to happen is for these people to be exploited by some professionals out there because of their vulnerability.
Well, no. You are wrong. Until you have lived in the UK as a Zambrano carer, you can't convince me that your occupation gives you the right to deny the truth.
Well, does yours give you the right to intimidate people?
I suggest you educate yourself.
I always believe in continuous learning but definitely not from you.
A social worker behaved as if her job description was to make life difficult for me, kept talking to me like trash, threatening me with the HO and reminding me that she will write about me to HO, keeping me miserable on end, using both landlord and care taker of the house given to us by children services against me, using divide and rule tactics, using other Zambrano mothers in a shared accommodation against me, using accommodation officers in the Council against me, the list is endless, just because I was an overstayer, had no papers, NRTPF and was vulnerable.
Until I showed her I was no longer ‘AN APPRENTICE’ by telling her not to talk to me on the phone anymore only via emails, then stopped picking her calls. I also insisted on taking minutes during our face to face discussions.
Meanwhile my child was placed on a high pedestal, because of being British but me the goose that laid that GOLDEN EGG, was treated like trash because I am a TCN and had no papers. Even the Health Visitor at the Communal Asylum accommodation for no reason kept reminding me that my child being british didn’t mean I could stay in this country.
Even the food banks then in 2013 refused me help because according to them it wasn’t my british child that will enjoy the food.
Even the LA in 2015/2016 refused me help because according to their staff, I will enjoy the house without papers.
We all know they were ready to look after our children those years while we are asked to go back to our countries. After all what led to the term Single Parent of a British child?. They wanted the British fathers/ British relatives or Children’s services to look after our children will we ‘go back home because we were illegal.
Even a Charity caseworker reminded me during that period that when I go for section 17 help that the Social Services will offer that they can look after my baby but that I shouldn’t agree.
There was another Social worker we had whom my child still remembers fondly till today because of her kindness, warm words and the big football she gave him.
No matter how long we debate this, all I know is that Zambrano years and my experience with HO and SOCIAL WORKERS is ‘SEE FINISH’.
SEE FINISH is a pidgin term that translates as 'to have seen it all'. It is used to describe a situation where two people have become too familiar that the boundary of respect / tolerance is pushed.
Remember the saying that familiarity breeds contempt.
Apparently some people feel Zambrano is a loophole.
As for this forum, we have it all, it is up to the member to see the the glass ‘half full’, it’s up to the member to take a step back and see the ‘bigger picture’ from time to time. It is up to member not just to start reading from the current page of this Zambrano topic but to read from page 1 of the old thread, then from page 1 of the new thread and remain focused. If you don’t know where you dropped your dry clothes before going swimming, how will you know where to go and dress up when you come out of the water?.
We are all wearing the Zambrano shoes but we know individually where those shoes hurt.