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That can be an issue as the application has to have the project to live in the UK in order to apply for citizenship. If the project is to get the British then leave the UK, that can sometimes escalate.have a work secondment abroad about to start, and she needs to go with me, as she cannot live alone; after that she most probably would have too many days abroad for years before she can apply, we are at local minimum now
This situation is so similar to mine, Obormot. My Mum is 76 and I just posted about the case yesterday, as we submitted her AN application last Saturday and now we're gathering docs. I also have very few documents showing her physical presence in the UK - just bank and credit card statements.obormot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:17 pmDear all:
I will soon be applying for UK citizenship for my 75 years old mother.
(non-EU family member of EU citizen). She has PR from July 2018, and settled status, and she was in UK from July 2013.
1. Our main issue is that it seems she was abroad for a bit more then 450 or even 480 days (between 500 and 550 per my initial calculations - it is not easy, as there are not many stamps, and we misplaced her old passport, so I am going over all records)
In "naturalisation by discretion" booklet they state that they may grant citizenship, if applicant was in UK for at least 7 years, "with no substantial absences in first 2 years" and settled in UK with all ties (family, work, property, etc.)
Did anybody get citizenship under this provision?
Should we show "no substantial absences in first two years", or at least list all absences from 2013? What counts as "substantial"? She probably was away 3-4 months every year at the beginning, and then it was going down recently.
She is fully dependant on me, and lived with me as member of my household in UK from the beginning. I worked full time in UK all that time, I own a house, my kids were in UK school, and me and kids naturalised last December. I suppose it should be enough proof of her ties to UK (she has no relatives except me and my kids) - ?
Should we submit some documentation about me to prove her ties to UK? (My birth certificate? My employment letter? My and kids' naturalisation certificates? ..)
We can procure some documents showing that while abroad she experienced several accidents (for example, she broke some bones twice), which required her to stay away longer then planned. Could it be useful?
Waiting is not an option (I have a work secondment abroad about to start, and she needs to go with me, as she cannot live alone; after that she most probably would have too many days abroad for years before she can apply, we are at local minimum now)
2. I have very few documents to show for her physical presence in UK.
Apart from one year at a local college where she was learning english, and one attempt on pass theory driving test, it is only doctor letters. Would it be enough?
I understand bank statements or utility bills are no use, right?
Affidavits of friends? Anything else?
She also lost her previous passport, new one is from 2019. Could it be an issue?
I'm submitting one every 3 months for her, if she has it. If not, try to see if you can submit 2/year.
Yes to the birth certificate + translation - as that's one of the ways you're proving that she's your Mum, and therefore that she has access to the Brit citizenship as she's the Mum and dependent/household member (both really) of a qualified citizen.obormot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:17 pmShould we submit some documentation about me to prove her ties to UK? (My birth certificate? My employment letter? My and kids' naturalisation certificates? ..)
We can procure some documents showing that while abroad she experienced several accidents (for example, she broke some bones twice), which required her to stay away longer then planned. Could it be useful?
Hey Obormot,obormot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:35 amThanks!
Luckily, we did PR - because when 5 years of my mum were up the settlement scheme was not in place yet.
I will submit utility bills (we put her name on electricity bill), and bank statements (she has joint account with me). One per year?
She also has blue badge, I will submit a copy of that too.
I tried to ask on UKCEN about my own excess of absences last summer - they were not very helpful. I then submitted a long letter from my employer on necessary character of my trips, and I was approved in 2 months.
I also had a phone conversation with a couple of lawyers last fall about my mum situation.. The only thing we all agreed on was that we should wait for her being in UK for 7 years.
It seems lawyers do not want to discuss it, as they themselves have no clear understanding when HO would wave excess absences and when it would not..
So I am really looking for "anecdotic evidence"..
Thanks
Hey Obormot - happy new year, despite the very weird times.obormot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:10 pmIn late August and September they introduced an app which one could use to upload passport, if one did biometrics before (my mother did in 2018, when she applied for PR - since she was non-EU citizen).
That way some people did not need to go to UKVCAS and it eased the post-lockdown backlog there.
This is similar to app used for Settled status.
Now they cleared the backlog and stopped offering people to use this app (except that they say students on Tier 4 will still have to use it). This makes us a bit worried whether the app was reliable enough, and whether thy might later end up calling on my mom to still do biometrics in person.
But so far we decided to just wait.
People who used app were reporting on this forum receiving approval email, so it seems the app works for at least some..