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The only downside of CoE-RoA is that it does not state that the holder is a British citizen.
secret.simon wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:04 pmApply for a certificate showing right of abode: Form ROAThe only downside of CoE-RoA is that it does not state that the holder is a British citizen.
While within the UK, they would have all the rights of a British citizen, abroad they would be treated solely as the citizen of the country that they hold the passport of. So they will not be able to rely on or access consular support from the British diplomatic authorities, etc. They will instead need to rely on the diplomatic aegis of the country of their passport.
There is also the factor of cost. A CoE-RoA costs four times (about £250 or so) as much as a passport and only lasts the lifetime of the passport. Generally, a child's passport lasts five years. So you will need to apply for a CoE-RoA every five years.
Keep in mind that ILR will expire after two years of absence from the UK (and that short visits will not count for retaining ILR).
Hi I am aware of all this. Thanks for pointing it out.secret.simon wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:07 pmKeep in mind that ILR will expire after two years of absence from the UK (and that short visits will not count for retaining ILR).
Also if you plan to apply for naturalisation, there are absence and physical presence (in the UK) requirements that need to be met. A long absence from the UK will complicate any future naturalisation application.
No there is no limit on absences/physical presence for CoE as CoE is only given if the applicant is already a British citizen.
Also the requirement to be physically present in the UK at the start of the five year period immediately preceding the date of application for naturalisation.
secret.simon wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:05 pmNo there is no limit on absences/physical presence for CoE as CoE is only given if the applicant is already a British citizen.
Also the requirement to be physically present in the UK at the start of the five year period immediately preceding the date of application for naturalisation.
The UK allows multiple citizenship and allows the child to have as many passports as it is entitled to under the laws of the relevant nations. It is not fussed. Indian law, on the other hand, is quite bothered with how many passports its citizens hold.
Thanks @secret.simon to confirm this.secret.simon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:24 amThe UK allows multiple citizenship and allows the child to have as many passports as it is entitled to under the laws of the relevant nations. It is not fussed. Indian law, on the other hand, is quite bothered with how many passports its citizens hold.
As I understand it, if you apply for a British passport for your child, they will lose their Indian citizenship automatically. If you want the child to hold both nationalities, you will have to apply for an Indian passport and then apply for a CoE-RoA in the Indian passport.
secret.simon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:24 amThe UK allows multiple citizenship and allows the child to have as many passports as it is entitled to under the laws of the relevant nations. It is not fussed. Indian law, on the other hand, is quite bothered with how many passports its citizens hold.
As I understand it, if you apply for a British passport for your child, they will lose their Indian citizenship automatically. If you want the child to hold both nationalities, you will have to apply for an Indian passport and then apply for a CoE-RoA in the Indian passport.
No, because it is not a foreign passport.
secret.simon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:02 pmNo, because it is not a foreign passport.
India allows dual citizenship if the child is born with dual Indian/other citizenship (i.e. either to Indian parents with ILR before the child's birth in India OR to a British citizen and Indian citizen in India). Indian citizenship is lost if the child is registered or naturalised at any time after birth.
However, if they acquire a foreign passport, even that dual citizenship permitted to a child born with dual citizenship comes to an end.
secret.simon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:02 pmNo, because it is not a foreign passport.
India allows dual citizenship if the child is born with dual Indian/other citizenship (i.e. either to Indian parents with ILR before the child's birth in India OR to a British citizen and Indian citizen in India). Indian citizenship is lost if the child is registered or naturalised at any time after birth.
However, if they acquire a foreign passport, even that dual citizenship permitted to a child born with dual citizenship comes to an end.
I am afraid I do not know the details of the requirements for CoE-RoA. I don't think there should be any requirement for a passport with an immigration stamp, but if there is, as you suggested, write a cover letter. And wait for others with more first-hand experience to respond to this query.
Again, wait for others with more first-hand experience to respond.vab wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:31 pmThey also ask for 5 years of UK address but he is two months old only.
I am considering documents below to support application. Can you comment on this and suggest if something to add.
1. My son passport.
2. my son UK birth certificate
3. My son two passport photos
4. My passport and BRP
5. My wife passport and BRP
6. Our marriage certificate (issued in India).
secret.simon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:19 pmI am afraid I do not know the details of the requirements for CoE-RoA. I don't think there should be any requirement for a passport with an immigration stamp, but if there is, as you suggested, write a cover letter. And wait for others with more first-hand experience to respond to this query.
Again, wait for others with more first-hand experience to respond.vab wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:31 pmThey also ask for 5 years of UK address but he is two months old only.
I am considering documents below to support application. Can you comment on this and suggest if something to add.
1. My son passport.
2. my son UK birth certificate
3. My son two passport photos
4. My passport and BRP
5. My wife passport and BRP
6. Our marriage certificate (issued in India).
vab wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 3:31 pmHi secret.simon.
I am all set to apply for CoE for my new born.
I have one question. I am going to change my address in March. Is there any possibly to communicate with Home office after application?
If home ofiice does not make decisions untill March then how to tell them new address?
Thanks
Vab
secret.simon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:19 pmI am afraid I do not know the details of the requirements for CoE-RoA. I don't think there should be any requirement for a passport with an immigration stamp, but if there is, as you suggested, write a cover letter. And wait for others with more first-hand experience to respond to this query.
Again, wait for others with more first-hand experience to respond.vab wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:31 pmThey also ask for 5 years of UK address but he is two months old only.
I am considering documents below to support application. Can you comment on this and suggest if something to add.
1. My son passport.
2. my son UK birth certificate
3. My son two passport photos
4. My passport and BRP
5. My wife passport and BRP
6. Our marriage certificate (issued in India).