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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Lagosbos » Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:39 am

Kren wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:23 am
I got a pre-settled status yesterday, went through the web prove my right and have been granted pre-settled status for 5 years , applied on 10 November 2020, biometrics on 2 December, Coa 10 December, granted pre-settled on 1 February 2021 , I wish everyone good luck
Congrats Kren, but this thread is for Zambrano Carers. it will be helpful if you shed more lights on the sort route your pre-settled was granted.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Lagosbos » Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:41 am

Fustrated2019 wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:43 pm
LULUBABY wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:09 am
Fustrated2019 wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:13 pm
@lulubaby please can you help me with the appeal template for DFR1 application please .

Thank you
So sorry for the late reply. I would have given you that one posted by Snooky on the forum. Thanks Ngoo.

Can I use to appeal under regulation 36 of the 2016?
If you are appealing your DRF1 application then regulation 36 of 2016 should be applicable to you. Your refusal letter should also confirm that.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Fustrated2019 » Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:03 am

Lagosbos wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:41 am
Fustrated2019 wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:43 pm
LULUBABY wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:09 am
Fustrated2019 wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:13 pm
@lulubaby please can you help me with the appeal template for DFR1 application please .

Thank you
So sorry for the late reply. I would have given you that one posted by Snooky on the forum. Thanks Ngoo.

Can I use to appeal under regulation 36 of the 2016?
If you are appealing your DRF1 application then regulation 36 of 2016 should be applicable to you. Your refusal letter should also confirm that.
@lagosboy it does. Thank you.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Kren » Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:00 pm

I was with derative rights under Zambrano from 2012 until July 2018 , on July 2018 granted leave to remain under appendix fm for 2,5 years , applied in Eu settlements as zambrano career on November , 2 December 2020 biometrics , and granted pre-settlement on 1 feb

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Ngoo » Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:40 am

LULUBABY wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:02 am
Oh not agaiiiinnnnnnn.

UPDATE: I got this response from the Tribunal

Permission is refused
Reasons

(1) The first reason given in the respondent’s decision dated 16/7/20 is that the applicant did not show that her son would be unable to remain in the UK if she left. The applicant’s grounds do not suggest that the respondent was wrong either in taking that as a criterion, or in finding that it was not satisfied. For all the applicant says in her grounds, she fails on this point alone.
(2) The second reason in the decision is that the applicant appears to have reasonable prospects of success in an application on human rights grounds. Judicial review, being the remedy only of last resort, is excluded.
(3) The grounds lack a statement of the facts.
(4) An unidentified and unreported decision of the FtT is not an authority for a legal
argument.
(5) The grounds do not specify either a factual or a legal basis on which the decision
might be found to have strayed beyond law and reason.

Reconsideration
The applicant may apply under rule 30(4) of the Tribunal Procedure (Upper Tribunal) Rules 2008 for this decision to be reconsidered at a hearing. To apply, the applicant must complete the attached FORM and provide it to the Tribunal so that it is received within 9 days of the date on which this order was sent (as above).

I am doing my best ✅
My best is not good enough ✅
I won’t give up ✅
@lulubaby, I am so sorry for the refusal. Please don’t give up, keep fighting God is your strength. We have come to far to turn back. Stay blessed

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Ngoo » Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:42 am

Kren wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:00 pm
I was with derative rights under Zambrano from 2012 until July 2018 , on July 2018 granted leave to remain under appendix fm for 2,5 years , applied in Eu settlements as zambrano career on November , 2 December 2020 biometrics , and granted pre-settlement on 1 feb
@Kren, Congratulations!

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Lagosbos » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:10 pm

Ngoo wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:42 am
Kren wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:00 pm
I was with derative rights under Zambrano from 2012 until July 2018 , on July 2018 granted leave to remain under appendix fm for 2,5 years , applied in Eu settlements as zambrano career on November , 2 December 2020 biometrics , and granted pre-settlement on 1 feb
@Kren, Congratulations!
@Ngoo, any words on your application yet. Like how long it took for you to get your CoA after you sent in your application?

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Fustrated2019 » Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:41 pm

LULUBABY wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:02 am
Oh not agaiiiinnnnnnn.

UPDATE: I got this response from the Tribunal

Permission is refused
Reasons

(1) The first reason given in the respondent’s decision dated 16/7/20 is that the applicant did not show that her son would be unable to remain in the UK if she left. The applicant’s grounds do not suggest that the respondent was wrong either in taking that as a criterion, or in finding that it was not satisfied. For all the applicant says in her grounds, she fails on this point alone.
(2) The second reason in the decision is that the applicant appears to have reasonable prospects of success in an application on human rights grounds. Judicial review, being the remedy only of last resort, is excluded.
(3) The grounds lack a statement of the facts.
(4) An unidentified and unreported decision of the FtT is not an authority for a legal
argument.
(5) The grounds do not specify either a factual or a legal basis on which the decision
might be found to have strayed beyond law and reason.

Reconsideration
The applicant may apply under rule 30(4) of the Tribunal Procedure (Upper Tribunal) Rules 2008 for this decision to be reconsidered at a hearing. To apply, the applicant must complete the attached FORM and provide it to the Tribunal so that it is received within 9 days of the date on which this order was sent (as above).

I am doing my best ✅
My best is not good enough ✅
I won’t give up ✅
@lulubaby sorry for the refusal but don’t give up .

The Lord is our strength 🙏🏾

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Catalley09 » Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:40 pm

it was 14 days yesterday and l have not received bundle from Home office and today l called up the courts to see if they have received bundle and HO has not sent it in either, so what now? can my case for appeal be decided on my evidence?

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Obie » Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:40 pm

With Zambrano there appear to be no winning strategy. It is simply the luck of the draw, one can only hope for the many people around here, that the court will intervene and end this nonsense.

Of 20 Zambrano application i was involved with last year only 4 succeeded, and 2 of those 4 went through the court system.

One of those 4 was approved today and a more compelling case involving a child with a congenital defect was refused, where the one involving a single mother was refused.

So I have reached the conclusion that one cannot advise a person on winning strategy when Home Office continues to act in this way.

They know about the case of KA, they cannot impose national criteria as a pre condition to applicability of Zambrano.

But we can only wait for a day in court.
Smooth seas do not make skilful sailors

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Mint2020 » Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:19 pm

Hello everyone, i am typing this with joy in my heart, I’ve been following this forum silently since June 2020 and i have learnt a lot.

My zambrano journey is as follows :
June 2018- applied for drf1
June 2019- application refused, appealed immediately
October 2019 ftt hearing

January 2020 ftt judge refused appeal
February 2020 appealed to the upper tribunal

September 2020 HO came to settlement with my lawyer
October 2020 , received resident card to expire June 2021

December applied to euss
February received settled status
Good luck to everyone God is on our side

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Akosua21 » Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:37 pm

Congrats Mint2020. I am so happy for you!
Meanwhile, I got my own rejection today. I have been in the UK for almost 8years, and changed visas different times during this period, as my initial entry was based on partner student visa.
I currently have a spouse/partner LTR valid till Sept 2021 . I have 2 British kids, partner got ILR in 2016 so son became British in 2017 and daughter in 2017 when she was born. I applied under the scheme based on being the primary carer of the kids, father is basically 95% absent in their lives so I have taken the role of both parents in a way, while he has assumed the role of just provider.(Note that we still live in the same household tho)
I put in my application and will share timelines below. I am confused though. Why will HO ask me to go do biometrics after I included my BRP in the application and later give an unsuccessful outcome. Why did my responses come after checking for progress(or is it coincidence, twice tho). Should I go for an administrative review or just forget about it and renew my visa as normal in Sept. What are your honest thoughts please? Please help 🤷🏽‍♂️🤔

02/11/2020: Submitted postal application
19/11: I was asked to provide biometric info
19/12:I went to a UKVCAS centre to have this done(PAID 110 FOR IT AS THERE WAS NO FREE SLOT)
12/01: LTR dated for a certificate of application
12/01&05/02: I checked on progress of application via online submission
06/02: I received a refusal email pasted below:


Thank you for your application under the EU Settlement Scheme as a ‘person
with a Zambrano right to reside’.

Your application has been carefully considered but from the information and
evidence provided or otherwise available you do not meet the requirements of
the scheme. I am sorry to inform you that your application has therefore been
refused.

The remainder of this letter details the reasons your application has been
refused, what you can do next and the help available from us.

In making this decision, we have complied with our duty under section 55 of the
Borders, Citizenship and Immigration Act 2009 to have regard to the need to
safeguard and promote the welfare of any children who may be affected by the
decision, namely xxx, your daughter. This duty
cannot on its own satisfy the eligibility requirements of the EU Settlement
Scheme for a person with a Zambrano right to reside, but in assessing your
application, the child’s best interests have been a primary consideration.
Reasons why your application has been refused

We have considered whether you meet the requirements for settled status (also
known as indefinite leave to enter or remain) or pre-settled status (also known
as limited leave to enter or remain) under the EU Settlement Scheme.
Unfortunately, based on the information and evidence provided or otherwise
available, and for the reasons set out in this letter, you do not meet the
requirements.

ICD.5298 2 of 5
To qualify under the scheme you need to meet the requirements that are set out
in Appendix EU to the Immigration Rules. You can find out more about the
requirements here www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-f ... ligibility.

You have applied under the EU Settlement Scheme as a person with a
Zambrano right to reside on the basis that you are the primary carer of a British
citizen.

To qualify under the EU Settlement Scheme, you need to meet the
requirements that are set out in Appendix EU to the Immigration Rules.

One of the requirements for qualifying for settled or pre-settled status as a
person with a Zambrano right to reside is that you do not already hold leave to
enter or remain in the UK, unless this was granted under the EU Settlement
Scheme.

Our records show that you currently hold leave to remain in the UK valid until
16/09/2021. This leave was granted under Spouse of a Settled/Refugee/HP
Person, not under the EU Settlement Scheme. This means you cannot qualify
as a person with a Zambrano right to reside.

As your existing leave to enter or remain means your application cannot
succeed, we have not considered the rest of your application.

It is considered that the information available does not show that you meet the
eligibility requirements for settled status set out in rule EU11 of Appendix EU to
the Immigration Rules or those for pre-settled status which are set out in rule
EU14 of that Appendix. Therefore, you have been refused settled status and
pre-settled status under rule EU6.
We are currently working remotely due to COVID-19 and only have access to
electronic copies of the documents you submitted in support of your application.
We are therefore unable to return your supporting documents at this time.
However, steps will be taken to return your documents as soon as possible. In
the meantime, please ensure that you keep us up to date with any change of
address to ensure that documents are returned to the correct location. We
apologise for any inconvenience caused.
Next steps

If you have additional information or evidence that shows you meet the
requirements, you can make another application to the EU Settlement Scheme
at any time online at: https://apply-for-eu-settled-status.homeoffice.gov.uk.

ICD.5298 3 of 5
Applications are free of charge and you have until 30 June 2021, or until any
status you currently hold under the scheme ceases to be valid, to reapply.

If you wish to re-apply as a person with a derivative right to reside, you will need
to call the EU Settlement Resolution Centre to request another paper

application form. Their contact information can be found at www.gov.uk/contact-
ukvi-inside-outside-uk/y/inside-the-uk/eu-settlement-scheme-settled-and-pre-
settled-status.

If you wish to apply on another basis, you may be able to apply online at apply-
for-eu-settled-status.homeoffice.gov.uk. You can find out more about the

requirements at www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-f ... ligibility.

Alternatively, you can apply for an administrative review if you think the decision
maker made an error or did not follow the published guidance, or where you
have new information or evidence in support of your application.

You have 28 calendar days from the date on which you receive this decision to
apply for an administrative review.
Information on how to apply for an administrative review, the process and the

fees payable are all available online at: www.gov.uk/guidance/eu-settlement-
scheme-apply-for-an-administrative-review.

The administrative review application form is available online at: https://visas-
immigration.service.gov.uk/product/admin-review.

You can also appeal this decision to the First Tier Tribunal under the
Immigration Citizens’ Rights Appeals (EU Exit) Regulations 2020.
If you are in the UK on the date of this decision you have 14 calendar days after
the date this letter is sent to appeal. If you are outside the UK on the date of this
decision you have 28 calendar days from the date you receive this letter to
appeal.

You can appeal on the basis that the decision is not in accordance with the EU
Settlement Scheme rules, or that it breaches any rights you have under the
Withdrawal Agreement, the EEA EFTA Separation Agreement, or the Swiss
Citizens’ Rights Agreement. You may bring or continue an appeal from inside or
outside the UK.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Akosua21 » Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:58 pm

Rosh_2704 wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:14 pm
Image[/img]
LULUBABY wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:54 pm
Rosh_2704 wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:45 pm
LULUBABY wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:27 pm


AHOY THERE HOME OFFICE!!!!!!

Hi all, I just called that same number again and asked them about APPLICATION NOTICE FORM N244, the staff said I called the wrong number and gave me the right number 03001235577.

I called them and BINGO!!!! the guy said it can be done.

PROCEDURE: (I should have written them down but was too excited to think fast).

Download the form on N244 form on direct.gov website.
Check how much the fee is for the application we are making.
Choose the court we will be sending the form to ( He said it has to be a court nearest to us as a group e.g. if in London for instance is it north, south, east, north west etc, you then scroll and check the court nearest to us).

Just to be very sure, I asked him again if we can use this form as a group of Zambrano carers who have received refusal decisions from the Home Office and want to go to court. He said yes, but in that case it has to be sent to Immigration and Asylum......

Honestly, I am so sorry all but I can't even remember what else he said again afterwards, my heart is just pounding very loud, I am shivering and my ears are buzzing.

Please can someone help me?. Can someone else who is calmer call with pen and paper and enquire from the new number?.

I am doing deep breaths therapy/ technique (whatever it is called), I will call them again tomorrow.

I feel so anxious and stressed. Oh please God, help me, please.....
Hi Lulubaby, can you please update on this? Did you manage to get any clarifications? My EUSSS application has been refused too and I was hoping to join the group litigation but I’m not sure where I stand. Kindly let me know
Sorry to hear about your refusal. What reason did HO give?. Based on the reason on your refusal letter, hopefully you should fall under one of the categories and I will add you for the GLO.

The notice decision says I do not qualify since I hold a valid leave to remain until the 10th of June. It says they did not consider the rest of my application since I have an existing leave under the Family and private life
Hello guys, I just joined the group and been reading through the post. Can you kindly advise please, I got a rejection today and I will give you context

I have been in the UK for almost 8years, and changed visas different times during this period, as my initial entry was based on partner student visa.
I currently have a spouse/partner LTR valid till Sept 2021 . I have 2 British kids, partner got ILR in 2016 so son became British in 2017 and daughter in 2017 when she was born. I applied under the scheme based on being the primary carer of the kids, father is basically 95% absent in their lives so I have taken the role of both parents in a way, while he has assumed the role of just provider.(Note that we still live in the same household tho)
I put in my application and will share timelines below. I am confused though. Why will HO ask me to go do biometrics after I included my BRP in the application and later give an unsuccessful outcome. Why did my responses come after checking for progress(or is it coincidence, twice tho). Should I go for an administrative review and what can I say to counter their refusal pls? What are your honest thoughts please? Kindly help a sister 🤷🏽‍♂️🤔

02/11/2020: Submitted postal application
19/11: I was asked to provide biometric info
19/12:I went to a UKVCAS centre to have this done(PAID 110 FOR IT AS THERE WAS NO FREE SLOT)
12/01: LTR dated for a certificate of application
12/01&05/02: I checked on progress of application via online submission
06/02: I received a refusal email pasted below:



One of the requirements for qualifying for settled or pre-settled status as a
person with a Zambrano right to reside is that you do not already hold leave to
enter or remain in the UK, unless this was granted under the EU Settlement
Scheme.

Our records show that you currently hold leave to remain in the UK valid until
16/09/2021. This leave was granted under Spouse of a Settled/Refugee/HP
Person, not under the EU Settlement Scheme. This means you cannot qualify
as a person with a Zambrano right to reside.

As your existing leave to enter or remain means your application cannot
succeed, we have not considered the rest of your application.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by snooky » Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:17 am

Hi All

Am glad to be alive to join you once again.

I have had a very bad health coupled with terror of the day and night covid.

Hope you are all well.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Chris90 » Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:23 am

Hey all,

@snooky glad you was also able to overcome covid.

Reading recent post here, it appears clear to me home office will indeed not send another case to the higher court's. They know they will lose, and risk new precedence in our favour.

When it come to zambrano, this is the first and last time we actually have stronger position than the great home office.

I beg everyone not to submit a poorly done appeal.. home office will twist it..

The legal arguments is there, please spend time and tweak it to your needs.

Use the refusal letter they send you and disarm every single paragraph with what the regulations/appendix EU or caselaw says, then grab some popcorn and watch how law works. When it comes to them saying domestic routes. Tell the court why they wrong...

You are not asking for a right to remain you are asking for a residence card.. you already have a right to remain under the zambrano principles .

A zambrano carer is not required to apply for anything beforehand to be a zambrano carer.. do not let home office take this from you .. assert it to the court and focus on the card, however you must meet the criteria set out to get the card...

Assert and be offended. You should not have to fight this hard for something the laws allow but this the reality..


Best wishes

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Catalley09 » Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:54 am

snooky wrote:
Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:17 am
Hi All

Am glad to be alive to join you once again.

I have had a very bad health coupled with terror of the day and night covid.

Hope you are all well.
Welcome back and glad to hear that you are in the mend, take care!

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Hope16 » Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:55 pm

18 months today of long waiting don’t know what else to do 😂😂😂

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Catalley09 » Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:37 pm

It’s been a month since l checked the view and prove your status and l have not received anything from H.O, l emailed the euss resolution centre and got a standard rely and called my drf1 appeal @taylor house and only to be told that they have requested more time until the 17th to submit their bundle, what is going on?

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Post by snooky » Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:47 pm

Thanks everyone for your messages.

I am going through lots of unread post to catch up.

For those who pulled through of your zambrano and euss, I say congratulations.

To those who are yet to pass through the draconian HO illegal refusals, I will say still keep the fights up.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by snooky » Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:52 pm

Catalley09 wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:37 pm
It’s been a month since l checked the view and prove your status and l have not received anything from H.O, l emailed the euss resolution centre and got a standard rely and called my drf1 appeal @taylor house and only to be told that they have requested more time until the 17th to submit their bundle, what is going on?
HO is playing off the time mark game as 30th of June is just around the corner. Write to the courts to ask your case expedite. Give a concrete reason with a compelling evidence in support of why you think HO is snailing you.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by snooky » Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:55 pm

Hope16 wrote:
Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:55 pm
18 months today of long waiting don’t know what else to do 😂😂😂
You can initiate PAP against the SSHD and they will let you know why your case has delayed and again because they wouldn't want court to come in, you have a date set in which your case will come to an end

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by snooky » Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:01 am

Chris90 wrote:
Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:23 am
Hey all,

@snooky glad you was also able to overcome covid.

Reading recent post here, it appears clear to me home office will indeed not send another case to the higher court's. They know they will lose, and risk new precedence in our favour.

When it come to zambrano, this is the first and last time we actually have stronger position than the great home office.

I beg everyone not to submit a poorly done appeal.. home office will twist it..

The legal arguments is there, please spend time and tweak it to your needs.

Use the refusal letter they send you and disarm every single paragraph with what the regulations/appendix EU or caselaw says, then grab some popcorn and watch how law works. When it comes to them saying domestic routes. Tell the court why they wrong...

You are not asking for a right to remain you are asking for a residence card.. you already have a right to remain under the zambrano principles .

A zambrano carer is not required to apply for anything beforehand to be a zambrano carer.. do not let home office take this from you .. assert it to the court and focus on the card, however you must meet the criteria set out to get the card...

Assert and be offended. You should not have to fight this hard for something the laws allow but this the reality..


Best wishes
I honestly back you on this direction.

I think with those excuses of refusal from the HO telling people those domestic applications is ther for them and article 8 etc is patronising.

It is against the ruling of Alvi vs SSHD. People should add that to their Skeleton Arguments and also mention that the reg 16 doesn't require anyone to apply under domestic immigration first before they can meet the requirements of zambrano principles

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by snooky » Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:09 am

Akosua21 wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:58 pm
Rosh_2704 wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:14 pm
Image[/img]
LULUBABY wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:54 pm
Rosh_2704 wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:45 pm


Hi Lulubaby, can you please update on this? Did you manage to get any clarifications? My EUSSS application has been refused too and I was hoping to join the group litigation but I’m not sure where I stand. Kindly let me know
Sorry to hear about your refusal. What reason did HO give?. Based on the reason on your refusal letter, hopefully you should fall under one of the categories and I will add you for the GLO.

The notice decision says I do not qualify since I hold a valid leave to remain until the 10th of June. It says they did not consider the rest of my application since I have an existing leave under the Family and private life
Hello guys, I just joined the group and been reading through the post. Can you kindly advise please, I got a rejection today and I will give you context

I have been in the UK for almost 8years, and changed visas different times during this period, as my initial entry was based on partner student visa.
I currently have a spouse/partner LTR valid till Sept 2021 . I have 2 British kids, partner got ILR in 2016 so son became British in 2017 and daughter in 2017 when she was born. I applied under the scheme based on being the primary carer of the kids, father is basically 95% absent in their lives so I have taken the role of both parents in a way, while he has assumed the role of just provider.(Note that we still live in the same household tho)
I put in my application and will share timelines below. I am confused though. Why will HO ask me to go do biometrics after I included my BRP in the application and later give an unsuccessful outcome. Why did my responses come after checking for progress(or is it coincidence, twice tho). Should I go for an administrative review and what can I say to counter their refusal pls? What are your honest thoughts please? Kindly help a sister 🤷🏽‍♂️🤔

02/11/2020: Submitted postal application
19/11: I was asked to provide biometric info
19/12:I went to a UKVCAS centre to have this done(PAID 110 FOR IT AS THERE WAS NO FREE SLOT)
12/01: LTR dated for a certificate of application
12/01&05/02: I checked on progress of application via online submission
06/02: I received a refusal email pasted below:



One of the requirements for qualifying for settled or pre-settled status as a
person with a Zambrano right to reside is that you do not already hold leave to
enter or remain in the UK, unless this was granted under the EU Settlement
Scheme.

Our records show that you currently hold leave to remain in the UK valid until
16/09/2021. This leave was granted under Spouse of a Settled/Refugee/HP
Person, not under the EU Settlement Scheme. This means you cannot qualify
as a person with a Zambrano right to reside.

As your existing leave to enter or remain means your application cannot
succeed, we have not considered the rest of your application.
SSHD is in practical application sense is wrong of it's own responsibility, Agreement and laws surround both eea and euss.

The thing is the covid has given them a getaway card to bully people because no one is paying attention to their illicit refusal.

The UKVCAS is a scam. I always say to people to write back after 4days to the biometric department to tell them there ain't slot and in 99% cases they send letter for you to go post office to have your biometric registration.

You need strong compelling case to do your appeal. Look through the forum and there are lots of stuff to help you.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Miss-Suz » Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:06 am

Morning all,
Hope everyone is doing well. I’m so sorry Lulubaby for this refusal. You’re a warrior, keep fighting sis!

Snooky!!!! I’m sooooo happy that you’re back! and so sorry to hear that you were also fighting COVID.

Guys I have something to post. Can you please tell what it’s mean.
Remember, HO refused my EUSS application in November after 18 months of waiting. I appealed their decision instead of doing AR as Lolwe advised me. In the meantime, I had a fresh new DRF1 application made early November which was also refused mid-December, HO sent back all supporting documents and my daughter passport. I also appealed that one. Meaning two ongoing appeals.

To my astonishment, I have received a letter from HO, it’s a Certificate of Application with right to work dated 8th of February. It has been signed by PM Exceptions instead of a case worker.
What does that mean??? Is the Home Office reconsidering their decision before the hearing???

Snooky?? The gurus here what are you guys thinking??

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by snooky » Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:39 pm

Miss-Suz wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:06 am
Morning all,
Hope everyone is doing well. I’m so sorry Lulubaby for this refusal. You’re a warrior, keep fighting sis!

Snooky!!!! I’m sooooo happy that you’re back! and so sorry to hear that you were also fighting COVID.

Guys I have something to post. Can you please tell what it’s mean.
Remember, HO refused my EUSS application in November after 18 months of waiting. I appealed their decision instead of doing AR as Lolwe advised me. In the meantime, I had a fresh new DRF1 application made early November which was also refused mid-December, HO sent back all supporting documents and my daughter passport. I also appealed that one. Meaning two ongoing appeals.

To my astonishment, I have received a letter from HO, it’s a Certificate of Application with right to work dated 8th of February. It has been signed by PM Exceptions instead of a case worker.
What does that mean??? Is the Home Office reconsidering their decision before the hearing???

Snooky?? The gurus here what are you guys thinking??
This means your right under the eea application has been extended to cover you till either

A) you win your ftt case
B) to appeal court when the ftt disallow it
C) protection till 30 June 2021 and beyond

In a nutshell till your fight is over. Both EEA applicants and euss applicants have been given what we call some sort of section 3C Leave(variation of leave)

Good to hear you have appealed both and hopefully you will pull through.

HO is full of contempt for continuously using 2017 Patel vs SSHD as a Guidance.

Tnx for your warm words.

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