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Hi, please sorry to disturb you, I have just read this and would need your help. Please I would like to know how you were able to renew your refused paper application and get an oral hearing.JR Blyton wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:19 pmI have just been sent a consent letter by SSHD to reconsider their decision which I am willing to sign. This was after I represented myself at renewal oral permission hearing.
I have incurred costs but I am at loss as to where to include this. Do I need to edit the Consent Order where it says ''Applicant's reasonable costs' and insert my reasonable costs or do I have to write a separate letter alongside the consent letter stating what my incurred cost is.
It is just the technicalities I am after as I am a litigant in person.
N.B - I understand this is not a legal support forum, however I would need people who have gone through this process to chip in. I have spent over £8,000 in legal fees/HO fees and do not have a penny left to pay any lawyer atm.
CONSENT ORDER
UPON the Respondent agreeing to reconsider the decision of 24 March 2020 within 3 months of the order being sealed (absent special circumstances).
BY CONSENT, it is ordered that:-
1. The Applicant do have leave to withdraw the above-numbered claim for judicial review.
2. The Respondent do pay the Applicant’s reasonable costs, to be assessed if not agreed
Thanks for your response. So you prepared the same bundle again for the oral application, repeating your immigration history as you did before and then wrote a statement explaining your point ?.JR Blyton wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:11 pmHi,
It is hard to give you a concise answer as your case might be different from mine. My grounds were based on
that there was an error of law by the judge ( I was later corrected by the oral renewal trial judge that what was in contention was the decision the SSHD took and not that of the paper judge); I also submitted that the entire evidence submitted by me was not reviewed by the upper tribunal judge and also that the decision was unreasonable.
The above grounds were the same as I used to in the paper application. With respect to any evidence that you think might help your case, include it with the bundle that you will serve the SSHD and the courts.
In the skeletal arguments, you can briefly make your case, highlighting what case laws and or/immigration laws you will be relying on, your immigration history etc. I pointed out where I thought the UT judge/SSHD was wrong in coming to his/their decision. Then there was a conclusion referring to the relief I am seeking e.g .....it is the applicant's position that this request for oral consideration of application for permission to apply for JR should be granted as the incorrect interpretation of the rules was applied: It is submitted that this claim was arguable
A day Before the hearing, I sent the judge my speech explaining that as I wasn't a native speaker, I might not be understood . So, thankfully, the judge read it before the hearing and understood where I was coming from even before the hearing. I read out exactly the same paper I had sent him. That helped as given I wasn't a lawyer, there is no way I will have been able to speak for 10/15 minutes arguing my case and making sense . After that, the SSHD barrister spoke, and then the judge asked me to reply the assertion of the barrister and it went back and forth. Knowing your case laws/immigration laws will help in this case to either counter what the SSHD barrister had said or making a claim yourself.
The Oral hearing is an entirely new process where a different judge will be hearing both arguments so....yes, you might submit an updated bundle with new evidences if you have it, the decision letter of the paper judge and of course any case law that you might intend to use. However, you don't need to submit this all at once. You can pay for the oral hearing and write your grounds in the proscribed form and submit that only. Then the period between submission of your form and the oral hearing, you can serve your skeletal arguments and updated bundle to the courts and SSHD. There are strict timeframes so keep an eye on those. Do a lot of research online about representing yourself in JR/immigration appeals. It will give you a lot of insight. Lastly, if you have a legal friend who you can cross-check stuff with, that will be handyLULUBABY wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:54 pmJR Blyton wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:11 pmHi,
It is hard to give you a concise answer as your case might be different from mine. My grounds were based on
that there was an error of law by the judge ( I was later corrected by the oral renewal trial judge that what was in contention was the decision the SSHD took and not that of the paper judge); I also submitted that the entire evidence submitted by me was not reviewed by the upper tribunal judge and also that the decision was unreasonable.
The above grounds were the same as I used to in the paper application. With respect to any evidence that you think might help your case, include it with the bundle that you will serve the SSHD and the courts.
In the skeletal arguments, you can briefly make your case, highlighting what case laws and or/immigration laws you will be relying on, your immigration history etc. I pointed out where I thought the UT judge/SSHD was wrong in coming to his/their decision. Then there was a conclusion referring to the relief I am seeking e.g .....it is the applicant's position that this request for oral consideration of application for permission to apply for JR should be granted as the incorrect interpretation of the rules was applied: It is submitted that this claim was arguable
A day Before the hearing, I sent the judge my speech explaining that as I wasn't a native speaker, I might not be understood . So, thankfully, the judge read it before the hearing and understood where I was coming from even before the hearing. I read out exactly the same paper I had sent him. That helped as given I wasn't a lawyer, there is no way I will have been able to speak for 10/15 minutes arguing my case and making sense . After that, the SSHD barrister spoke, and then the judge asked me to reply the assertion of the barrister and it went back and forth. Knowing your case laws/immigration laws will help in this case to either counter what the SSHD barrister had said or making a claim yourself.
Thanks for your response. So you prepared the same bundle again for the oral application, repeating your immigration history as you did before and then wrote a statement explaining your point ?.
Mine is as regards EUSS application refused by the SSHD without giving me a right to appeal.
Thank you so much for your thorough explanation. I really appreciate.JR Blyton wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:43 pmThe Oral hearing is an entirely new process where a different judge will be hearing both arguments so....yes, you might submit an updated bundle with new evidences if you have it, the decision letter of the paper judge and of course any case law that you might intend to use. However, you don't need to submit this all at once. You can pay for the oral hearing and write your grounds in the proscribed form and submit that only. Then the period between submission of your form and the oral hearing, you can serve your skeletal arguments and updated bundle to the courts and SSHD. There are strict timeframes so keep an eye on those. Do a lot of research online about representing yourself in JR/immigration appeals. It will give you a lot of insight. Lastly, if you have a legal friend who you can cross-check stuff with, that will be handyLULUBABY wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:54 pmJR Blyton wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:11 pmHi,
It is hard to give you a concise answer as your case might be different from mine. My grounds were based on
that there was an error of law by the judge ( I was later corrected by the oral renewal trial judge that what was in contention was the decision the SSHD took and not that of the paper judge); I also submitted that the entire evidence submitted by me was not reviewed by the upper tribunal judge and also that the decision was unreasonable.
The above grounds were the same as I used to in the paper application. With respect to any evidence that you think might help your case, include it with the bundle that you will serve the SSHD and the courts.
In the skeletal arguments, you can briefly make your case, highlighting what case laws and or/immigration laws you will be relying on, your immigration history etc. I pointed out where I thought the UT judge/SSHD was wrong in coming to his/their decision. Then there was a conclusion referring to the relief I am seeking e.g .....it is the applicant's position that this request for oral consideration of application for permission to apply for JR should be granted as the incorrect interpretation of the rules was applied: It is submitted that this claim was arguable
A day Before the hearing, I sent the judge my speech explaining that as I wasn't a native speaker, I might not be understood . So, thankfully, the judge read it before the hearing and understood where I was coming from even before the hearing. I read out exactly the same paper I had sent him. That helped as given I wasn't a lawyer, there is no way I will have been able to speak for 10/15 minutes arguing my case and making sense . After that, the SSHD barrister spoke, and then the judge asked me to reply the assertion of the barrister and it went back and forth. Knowing your case laws/immigration laws will help in this case to either counter what the SSHD barrister had said or making a claim yourself.
Thanks for your response. So you prepared the same bundle again for the oral application, repeating your immigration history as you did before and then wrote a statement explaining your point ?.
Mine is as regards EUSS application refused by the SSHD without giving me a right to appeal.