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Already advised of same in January when asked.CULLINAN wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:16 pmFirstly, I am assuming British Citizenship granted in Dec 2019 i.e. you attended the ceremony not only approval.
Baby born in Jan 2020: Overseas British Passport applications can take long so you will have to hang in there.
For your wife and son born abroad: You will have to apply visas for them via family route. You will have to meet the income threshold (including your son child born abroad) and all visa specific requirements.
https://www.gov.uk/uk-family-visa
Having a British Passport does not prove British Citizenship anyways. Your baby born in Jan 2020 is British by birth i.e. British by descent.
It is the date of birth of the child that matters for the purpose of citizenship. If the child is born after you acquired British citizenship, the child will be born a British citizen.xeroxabcshaikh wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:22 pmi spoke with immigration advisior and he told me that its depend on tha baby when pregancy starts and the time of preganncy start whats your nationality? at that time my nationality was my home country but after my british nationality my baby born.
This is ridiculous. Even if you count from the last day 40 weeks come up to be 15th Dec 2019 not November 2019 (if my calculation is correct).Your last exit stamp in your passport is 11 March 2019, which would indicate your child would have been born at full term (40 weeks) no later than November 2019
-copy pasted from a legal website.Keep really good records before and after your child is born
Keep your old passport or booking confirmations, and you might not realise that those records from the hospital are important. But they might be, so keep them safe!
Birth certificate: make sure that you register your child’s birth straight away, especially if you had a home birth. If your child’s birth was not registered within the first 12 months, the Birth Certificate will not be accepted as definitive proof of their date and circumstances of birth.
This can be a problem if your child was born shortly after you naturalised because HMPO may take the view that you have not proven that they are British. In these cases, it is really important to put together as much other supporting evidence of when the child was born as possible.
Old passports: Even though it is not a requirement that a parent was British at the time of conception, HMPO requires you to provide both parents’ passports or travel documents held at the time of conception.
If your passport will expire between your child being conceived and you applying for their British passport, either take a full colour copy before applying for the replacement or request to keep the old document when the new one is issued.
Having the documents will save you time and money because you can avoid a DNA test.
Hospital records: keep as much information as you can about the pregnancy, birth and any post-natal appointments. HMPO has high standards of evidence and this can be a problem if you live in a country where the health and social system are more informal.
General life records: depending on how long it takes for you to get round to applying for a British passport, make sure that in the intervening time you keep records that can help document your child’s life: school records, vaccinations, family photographs etc.
Having these things at hand will make it a lot easier when HMPO comes asking for them!
xeroxabcshaikh wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:12 pm
The evidence you have submitted suggests your wife was 40 weeks pregnant when she gave birth to your son.
Your last exit stamp in your passport is 11 March 2019, which would indicate your child would have been born at full term (40 weeks) no later than November 2019 before you became British. Your Childs birthday is stated as 1 January 2020 would mean you would still have had to be physically in the same country as your wife until at the latest 10 April 2019 which your documents do not support.
If you have any other evidence to demonstrate that you were still in Pakistan until approximately 10 April 2019, please forward it to me at the following address:
Indeed. HMPO have provided proof that they cannot do simple date addition. Their mistake undermines their arguments.CULLINAN wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:35 pmOP’s Previous post:
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This is ridiculous. Even if you count from the last day 40 weeks come up to be 15th Dec 2019 not November 2019 (if my calculation is correct).Your last exit stamp in your passport is 11 March 2019, which would indicate your child would have been born at full term (40 weeks) no later than November 2019
Ask the hospital to provide her medical records relating to child’s birth.Most pregnancies last 37 to 42 weeks ...
TBH you will need to back up your case with official original hospital documents. Clearly HMPO has doubts and you will have to clarify those. I am afraid if you do not have the originals hospital records it will be a tough one.
HMPO should not challenge a government document. NADRA is the National Database & Registration Authority in Pakistan. Obviously they make their own checks to see if the birth certificate is genuine etc. That should solve the problem as the date of birth is on the CRC/FRC. HMPO refusing that means challenging official government organisation - NADRA’s authority too!xeroxabcshaikh wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:39 amYes I have my child CRC from NADRA and family Registration Certificate which includes my all family members details along with this child date of birth as well from NADRA and I have also my child CNIC as well. But all documents already submitted with this application when HMPO requested
As Vinny already stated: Most normal pregnancies last 37-42 weeks anyways. So that should not be hard for HMPO to digest. The HMPO made an error in the calculation in the first place. As their 40th week ends in Nov, however it should be 16th Dec. Plus in your case the pregnancy lasted little OVER 42 weeks (which is rare but possible - so here is where the gynaecologist’s letter can help).xeroxabcshaikh wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:54 amThank you so much CULLINAN
I spoke with my wife gynecologists' and she is saying that she is writing a letter and confirming how 42 week pregnancy's possible in my wife case and i will submitted all hospital records again along with doctor letter hopefully they accept