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@Fustrated2019, thank you.Fustrated2019 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:57 pm@ngoo congratulations. Enjoy your much earned freedom
Just checking on you. How is it going?. Have you called the courts/tribunal?. Did you get any help yet?.gee4 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:50 pmGood day everyone
Is there anyone who’s had oral hearing for their appeal please? I’m looking to find out the process and what I have to do. I’ve been sent an email to expect hearing date soon for my Zambrano application appeal. I sent skeleton of argument to the court along with the appeal form but I haven’t sent any to home office. I am also looking to get help on how to attend the hearing and what to say as I have no representative. Thanks
LULUBABY wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:17 pmJust checking on you. How is it going?. Have you called the courts/tribunal?. Did you get any help yet?.gee4 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:50 pmGood day everyone
Is there anyone who’s had oral hearing for their appeal please? I’m looking to find out the process and what I have to do. I’ve been sent an email to expect hearing date soon for my Zambrano application appeal. I sent skeleton of argument to the court along with the appeal form but I haven’t sent any to home office. I am also looking to get help on how to attend the hearing and what to say as I have no representative. Thanks
Hi Geek4gee4 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:55 amHi everyone
I just spoke to a solicitor who said the chances of the appeal being successful is low because i didn’t apply for DRF initially and it’s part of the legal requirements. But I remember reading here it’s not compulsory to make the application hence why I didn’t
Hellogee4 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:21 pmLULUBABY wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:17 pmJust checking on you. How is it going?. Have you called the courts/tribunal?. Did you get any help yet?.gee4 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:50 pmGood day everyone
Is there anyone who’s had oral hearing for their appeal please? I’m looking to find out the process and what I have to do. I’ve been sent an email to expect hearing date soon for my Zambrano application appeal. I sent skeleton of argument to the court along with the appeal form but I haven’t sent any to home office. I am also looking to get help on how to attend the hearing and what to say as I have no representative. Thanks
Thank you so much for checking. I called the courts and was told I should send a bundle to HO but I haven’t received their bundle neither. I am currently speaking to legal aid advisers, hopefully they help me out. I now have hearing date also and i have been researching what to do, I’ve never been in court nor know the procedures and it’s a little overwhelming
HiFustrated2019 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:31 amHappy new month everyone.
@snooky please I need to pick your brains. I have received a date from the court for case management review before a hearing. I am appealing DFR1. I haven’t received anything from the home office and I haven’t sent anything either . I am self representing .
What will happen ? Can you please help?
Thank you
Thank you very much snooky . I will seek the services of an immigration lawyer as soon as possible. Thank yousnooky wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:27 pmHiFustrated2019 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:31 amHappy new month everyone.
@snooky please I need to pick your brains. I have received a date from the court for case management review before a hearing. I am appealing DFR1. I haven’t received anything from the home office and I haven’t sent anything either . I am self representing .
What will happen ? Can you please help?
Thank you
The reason why hearing has been converted to a Case Management Review Hearing is in order for the Judge to determine whether the case should proceed to a full hearing. If decided it is not necessary the Appellant’s case will be decided on the papers only.
The Immigration Tribunal often arranges Case Management Review (‘CMR’) Hearings where the Immigration Judge, Appellant, his or her representative and the Secretary of State for the Home Department’s representative attend to discuss any preparations required for the hearing. While there are few of these hearings, paragraph 7.2 of the relevant Practice Direction relates their significance:
The main purpose of the CMR is to confirm the points in issue prior to the substantive hearing. The judge conducting the hearing should be seeking to confirm the issues that will be raised by either side. ... The CMR is regarded as a hearing of the appeal and is held before an Immigration Judge.
Now self representing against HOPO is a very dangerous thread to go. The HOPOs are ambiguous with their definitions and twist so much.
You will need to engage a representative to properly help you through.
You have to also make sure you have a bundle of Skeleton Argument and Witness Statement for your trial should your case goes on trial.
Prepare for courts proceedings else your case wouldn't succeed.
I always say to people to do paper applications because if you can't argue with law whilst in court with HOPO then it call a car crash.
HiLULUBABY wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:32 pmHappy Easter all.
UPDATE:
Hi all I just received this email from the Tribunal.
Please see attached decision and directions. The hearing listed for 12 April 2021 is vacated.
Consequent to the reference to a decision of Judge Neville in the applicant's grounds of renewal, filed with the Tribunal on 26 February 2021, the Judge has requested that a copy of the decision in Khan et al (EA/03099/2019 et al) be forwarded to the parties.
Kindly acknowledge receipt.
Please Snooky, what does this mean?. Oh my God I am really having headache and my heart is pounding really hard.
It is a 23 page document.snooky wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:24 pmHiLULUBABY wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:32 pmHappy Easter all.
UPDATE:
Hi all I just received this email from the Tribunal.
Please see attached decision and directions. The hearing listed for 12 April 2021 is vacated.
Consequent to the reference to a decision of Judge Neville in the applicant's grounds of renewal, filed with the Tribunal on 26 February 2021, the Judge has requested that a copy of the decision in Khan et al (EA/03099/2019 et al) be forwarded to the parties.
Kindly acknowledge receipt.
Please Snooky, what does this mean?. Oh my God I am really having headache and my heart is pounding really hard.
It means a lot and in favour of your case. Should the unreported been true then the judge would allow your case. You can ask the courts to send copy of EA/03099/2019 et al through utiacdecisions@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk.
Actually judge Nevile is well known in the courts so the judge will revalue all the information and how he arrived at its decision.
Remember there has been a recent case which upheld and reintroduced Alvi vs SSHD. Which affirms that HO guidance are not law and can't override the law.
The HO guidance should be drafted to reflect the law but not to precludes someone from meeting the act of parliament laws.
Keep dreaming and it would reality. Good luck
Please only post official links to reported cases. Not all cases can be or are published or made public. You also do not have permission from the relevant people in the case to post their personal details on a public imigration forum.LULUBABY wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:25 pmIt is a 23 page document.snooky wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:24 pmHiLULUBABY wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:32 pmHappy Easter all.
UPDATE:
Hi all I just received this email from the Tribunal.
Please see attached decision and directions. The hearing listed for 12 April 2021 is vacated.
Consequent to the reference to a decision of Judge Neville in the applicant's grounds of renewal, filed with the Tribunal on 26 February 2021, the Judge has requested that a copy of the decision in Khan et al (EA/03099/2019 et al) be forwarded to the parties.
Kindly acknowledge receipt.
Please Snooky, what does this mean?. Oh my God I am really having headache and my heart is pounding really hard.
It means a lot and in favour of your case. Should the unreported been true then the judge would allow your case. You can ask the courts to send copy of EA/03099/2019 et al through utiacdecisions@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk.
Actually judge Nevile is well known in the courts so the judge will revalue all the information and how he arrived at its decision.
Remember there has been a recent case which upheld and reintroduced Alvi vs SSHD. Which affirms that HO guidance are not law and can't override the law.
The HO guidance should be drafted to reflect the law but not to precludes someone from meeting the act of parliament laws.
Keep dreaming and it would reality. Good luck
Oh dear, I am so sorry, please. Thanks.CR001 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:29 pmPlease only post official links to reported cases. Not all cases can be or are published or made public. You also do not have permission from the relevant people in the case to post their personal details on a public imigration forum.LULUBABY wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:25 pmIt is a 23 page document.snooky wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:24 pmHiLULUBABY wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:32 pmHappy Easter all.
UPDATE:
Hi all I just received this email from the Tribunal.
Please see attached decision and directions. The hearing listed for 12 April 2021 is vacated.
Consequent to the reference to a decision of Judge Neville in the applicant's grounds of renewal, filed with the Tribunal on 26 February 2021, the Judge has requested that a copy of the decision in Khan et al (EA/03099/2019 et al) be forwarded to the parties.
Kindly acknowledge receipt.
Please Snooky, what does this mean?. Oh my God I am really having headache and my heart is pounding really hard.
It means a lot and in favour of your case. Should the unreported been true then the judge would allow your case. You can ask the courts to send copy of EA/03099/2019 et al through utiacdecisions@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk.
Actually judge Nevile is well known in the courts so the judge will revalue all the information and how he arrived at its decision.
Remember there has been a recent case which upheld and reintroduced Alvi vs SSHD. Which affirms that HO guidance are not law and can't override the law.
The HO guidance should be drafted to reflect the law but not to precludes someone from meeting the act of parliament laws.
Keep dreaming and it would reality. Good luck
Don't stress, I have removed the images you posted.LULUBABY wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:41 pmOh dear, I am so sorry, please. Thanks.CR001 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:29 pmPlease only post official links to reported cases. Not all cases can be or are published or made public. You also do not have permission from the relevant people in the case to post their personal details on a public imigration forum.LULUBABY wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:25 pmIt is a 23 page document.snooky wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:24 pm
Hi
It means a lot and in favour of your case. Should the unreported been true then the judge would allow your case. You can ask the courts to send copy of EA/03099/2019 et al through utiacdecisions@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk.
Actually judge Nevile is well known in the courts so the judge will revalue all the information and how he arrived at its decision.
Remember there has been a recent case which upheld and reintroduced Alvi vs SSHD. Which affirms that HO guidance are not law and can't override the law.
The HO guidance should be drafted to reflect the law but not to precludes someone from meeting the act of parliament laws.
Keep dreaming and it would reality. Good luck
I don't even know where to get the link from. Oh my God, what have I done.
If the Judge's decision says, appeal is allowed and to the respondent fee award, please what does that mean. Here the respondent is HO.snooky wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:24 pmHiLULUBABY wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:32 pmHappy Easter all.
UPDATE:
Hi all I just received this email from the Tribunal.
Please see attached decision and directions. The hearing listed for 12 April 2021 is vacated.
Consequent to the reference to a decision of Judge Neville in the applicant's grounds of renewal, filed with the Tribunal on 26 February 2021, the Judge has requested that a copy of the decision in Khan et al (EA/03099/2019 et al) be forwarded to the parties.
Kindly acknowledge receipt.
Please Snooky, what does this mean?. Oh my God I am really having headache and my heart is pounding really hard.
It means a lot and in favour of your case. Should the unreported been true then the judge would allow your case. You can ask the courts to send copy of EA/03099/2019 et al through utiacdecisions@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk.
Actually judge Nevile is well known in the courts so the judge will revalue all the information and how he arrived at its decision.
Remember there has been a recent case which upheld and reintroduced Alvi vs SSHD. Which affirms that HO guidance are not law and can't override the law.
The HO guidance should be drafted to reflect the law but not to precludes someone from meeting the act of parliament laws.
Keep dreaming and it would reality. Good luck
In my own case my appeal was allowed, and the HO awarded the appeal fee to me. Hope it helps. Bless youLULUBABY wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:00 pmIf the Judge's decision says, appeal is allowed and to the respondent fee award, please what does that mean. Here the respondent is HO.snooky wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:24 pmHiLULUBABY wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:32 pmHappy Easter all.
UPDATE:
Hi all I just received this email from the Tribunal.
Please see attached decision and directions. The hearing listed for 12 April 2021 is vacated.
Consequent to the reference to a decision of Judge Neville in the applicant's grounds of renewal, filed with the Tribunal on 26 February 2021, the Judge has requested that a copy of the decision in Khan et al (EA/03099/2019 et al) be forwarded to the parties.
Kindly acknowledge receipt.
Please Snooky, what does this mean?. Oh my God I am really having headache and my heart is pounding really hard.
It means a lot and in favour of your case. Should the unreported been true then the judge would allow your case. You can ask the courts to send copy of EA/03099/2019 et al through utiacdecisions@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk.
Actually judge Nevile is well known in the courts so the judge will revalue all the information and how he arrived at its decision.
Remember there has been a recent case which upheld and reintroduced Alvi vs SSHD. Which affirms that HO guidance are not law and can't override the law.
The HO guidance should be drafted to reflect the law but not to precludes someone from meeting the act of parliament laws.
Keep dreaming and it would reality. Good luck
Ngoo please pray harder.
Thanks for your help and encouragement. Please what year is the Alvi vs SSHD upheld case so I can read it up?.snooky wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:24 pmHiLULUBABY wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:32 pmHappy Easter all.
UPDATE:
Hi all I just received this email from the Tribunal.
Please see attached decision and directions. The hearing listed for 12 April 2021 is vacated.
Consequent to the reference to a decision of Judge Neville in the applicant's grounds of renewal, filed with the Tribunal on 26 February 2021, the Judge has requested that a copy of the decision in Khan et al (EA/03099/2019 et al) be forwarded to the parties.
Kindly acknowledge receipt.
Please Snooky, what does this mean?. Oh my God I am really having headache and my heart is pounding really hard.
It means a lot and in favour of your case. Should the unreported been true then the judge would allow your case. You can ask the courts to send copy of EA/03099/2019 et al through utiacdecisions@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk.
Actually judge Nevile is well known in the courts so the judge will revalue all the information and how he arrived at its decision.
Remember there has been a recent case which upheld and reintroduced Alvi vs SSHD. Which affirms that HO guidance are not law and can't override the law.
The HO guidance should be drafted to reflect the law but not to precludes someone from meeting the act of parliament laws.
Keep dreaming and it would reality. Good luck