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That is incorrect. The airline does not have to call the immigration control, as long as you don’t hold the required documents as specified on the airline’s website. In Ryanair’s case, it’s always either a valid visa or a valid original IRP card. You were just lucky that the airline made the effort to call the immigration instead of denying you boarding right away.
Thanks very much for your time..much appreciatedavta wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:11 pmHey,
The re-entry visas processing is quite fast now, you can check the processing time on the inis website.
The stamp itself is not in the list of allowable entrance permission, that normally spread by the foregin ministry to the airlines and other carriers. It can be accepted by local immigration, but will be rejected by any check in staff remotely.
Thanks very much for your time..much appreciatedavta wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:11 pmHey,
The re-entry visas processing is quite fast now, you can check the processing time on the inis website.
The stamp itself is not in the list of allowable entrance permission, that normally spread by the foregin ministry to the airlines and other carriers. It can be accepted by local immigration, but will be rejected by any check in staff remotely.
It may not be a "law", but Airlines are also not in a position to "deny entry" to the country, legally speaking, as they are not immigration officers. When you show them evidence that you are a legal resident in Ireland (a copy of IRP card, a stamp 4 with date, etc) - they should (again, they can deny if they want) contact immigration officials. There is a page for Ryanair describing to contact ticket desk agent so they contact Ryanair Immigration Department if "clarifications are required".littlerr wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 10:34 amThat is incorrect. The airline does not have to call the immigration control, as long as you don’t hold the required documents as specified on the airline’s website. In Ryanair’s case, it’s always either a valid visa or a valid original IRP card. You were just lucky that the airline made the effort to call the immigration instead of denying you boarding right away.
Commercial carriers like airlines must comply with the relevant regulations and policies, otherwise they are risking being fined (and then they will seek the costs from you). Copies of residence permits or passport stamps are not valid for airlines. They can easily deny your boarding if they find your document not sufficient for a trip. Just because they made exemption it does not mean that you can expect them to do this every time.
The re-entry visa is being provided now only either to those who are on stamp 6 (means, already having naturalisation certificate) or to minors who do not hold IRP at all. Other stamp holders are kind of in limbo once IRP is sent out. There is no even application form for them to apply for re-entry visa. The abolishment of re-entry visas in May 2019 made life easier to some extend (and cheaper) until one gets naturalised and releases their IRP. Here we have a problem of which INIS seems never thought of.
This has been clarified a million times now. Stamp 6 has no relation to a re-entry visa WHATSOEVER. It has been clarified here. It has been clarified by INIS. It has been clarified in the Oireachtas.Julio_Tebenado wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 3:09 pmThe re-entry visa is being provided now only either to those who are on stamp 6 (means, already having naturalisation certificate) or to minors who do not hold IRP at all. Other stamp holders are kind of in limbo once IRP is sent out. There is no even application form for them to apply for re-entry visa. The abolishment of re-entry visas in May 2019 made life easier to some extend (and cheaper) until one gets naturalised and releases their IRP. Here we have a problem of which INIS seems never thought of.
INIS has been using the Stamp 6 form for all adults' re-entry visa applications since the day the re-entry visa was abolished. I'm not recommending it. It's the POLICY. A lot of people have got the visa in the past 2 years due to various reasons (expired IRP, recently naturalised), me included. What's your point? If you don't want to do a proper research or at least ask INIS, then at least don't spread false information.Julio_Tebenado wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 6:27 pmYou are kinda contradicting yourself. First you are saying that Stamp 6 has no relations to re-entry visa whatsoeverwrittenincapitals, and in the next sentence you are recommending to use re-entry visa application form for stamp 6 holders. I would say, it's a pretty obvious procedure when one having stamp 4 should go and use application stamp 6 application form (sarcasm) in case of need, e.g. when does not possess irp anymore but still has stamp in the passport.
If you are a non-visa required national, you don't need a re-entry visa.jlad wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 6:45 pmApologies to hijack this post. I am non visa required national to ireland and currently living in Ireland.
Just for my knowledge, if whatever reason I need to travel out of ireland without my IRP, do I need to apply for re entry visa or is it something I could fly out and just come back into ireland as check in staff in any foreign country never asked for my permission etc as my passport alone is usually sufficient for entry to Ireland (of course subject to immigration clearance in Dublin). Thanks.