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For an unmarried partner visa, this evidence of living together in both names inls mandatory. There is no discretion and appeal is highly likely to fail.living together in a relationship akin to marriage
Not travelling to the UK since 2015 and using covid as an excuse would not be a valid reason.UtterlyBrilliant wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 5:35 pmFor me, the main point to address in the refusal is "you have not visited the UK since 2015 therefore this does not demonstrate cohabitation for at least two years prior to the date of application." I think an any appeal should be focused on covid and travel restrictions (dont know if columbia was also on the red list at any point) which may have made it tougher to travel since 2019.
The wording suggests the co habitation period is particularly relevant in the last 2 years.CR001 wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 5:42 pmNot travelling to the UK since 2015 and using covid as an excuse would not be a valid reason.UtterlyBrilliant wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 5:35 pmFor me, the main point to address in the refusal is "you have not visited the UK since 2015 therefore this does not demonstrate cohabitation for at least two years prior to the date of application." I think an any appeal should be focused on covid and travel restrictions (dont know if columbia was also on the red list at any point) which may have made it tougher to travel since 2019.
The refusal seems to be correct and there's no point in appealing this from my point of view no harm in doing this if you think the refusal unfair and did you use a solicitor for this application?elbuttano wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 5:02 pmHi all,
My partner has just had her family visa refused. We applied as unmarried partners. We have been together for 7 years and during that time I have flown back and forth from England to Colombia to spend time together at her apartment. We are together approximately 7-8 months of every year (the rest of the time I have to work in UK). My partner also came to England in 2015 and lived with me for 6 months, she was on a student visa. However, the entry clearance officer was not satisfied that we were able to prove cohabitation. Our main issue is that I don't receive any bills, correspondence etc in my name at my girlfriend's address in Colombia - all the bills are in her name. For work I travel two or three times a year back to the UK so I maintain my banking, mobile phone and other official indications of residence from my UK base. I don't clearly have much in the way of evidence to show I've been living with my partner in Colombia for the 2 years they require, even though I've been living with her at her apartment for much longer than 2 years!
Please can anybody help me in working out how best to word the appeal?
With the application we provided 7 years worth of photos of us together in various places all over the world, along with the plane tickets and hotel reservations in both our names. We also provided letters signed by all 4 of our parents stating that we got together in 2014. We believed that the evidence was overwhelming that we are indeed a genuine couple, but it seems they have tripped us up on this "living at same address" point.
I've been trying to think if there is any other evidence I can produce to prove how much time I've lived with my partner in Colombia - phone GPS records, computer IP address records, passport stamps showing entry to Colombia, maybe there's something I haven't thought of?
We would be extremely appreciative of any help from this community. Many thanks in advance.
Steve
Refusal wording in full:
Eligibility
Under paragraph EC-P.1.1.(d) you do not meet all of the eligibility requirements of Section E-ECP of Appendix FM for the following reasons:
Eligibility Relationship Requirement
You do not meet the eligibility relationship requirement of paragraphs E-ECP.2.1 to 2.10 because:
You have applied for entry clearance as an unmarried partner. Paragraph GEN 1.2.(iv) of Appendix FM defines an unmarried partner as “a person who has been living together with the applicant in a relationship akin to a marriage or civil partnership for at least two years prior to the date of application.” I note you have stated in your application form that your relationship with your sponsor started in 2014 and that you have both been living together in Colombia since 2016. However I also note you have stated that you and your sponsor do not have any joint accounts and your sponsor does not receive any correspondence at your address in Colombia. Whilst I acknowledge correspondence from the NHS addressed to you listing your sponsors address, as your passport demonstrates, you have not visited the UK since 2015 therefore this does not demonstrate cohabitation for at least two years prior to the date of application. Therefore the documents you have submitted do not demonstrate any evidence of cohabitation. Whilst I acknowledge you have provided numerous photo demonstrating your relationship from 2014 to the present and flight tickets listing both of your names, I am satisfied that these in isolation do not demonstrate that you and your sponsors have been living together in a relationship akin to marriage. I am therefore not satisfied that your sponsor is your partner for the purposes of Appendix FM and therefore that your partner is present or settled in the UK or being admitted for settlement on the same occasion as you. I therefore refuse your application under paragraph EC-P.1.1(d) of Appendix FM of the Immigration Rules. (E-ECP.2.1)
In the UK, they would accept letters from government departments (DWP, HMRC, etc) addressed to one or both partners in the same address at broadly the same time (same month, etc). Would you have something similar in Columbia? Were both of you registered at the same address with government bodies (local authorities, etc) and do you have proof of such common registration?
What does this mean?
If you are registered with Amazon or other suppliers of goods at your Columbian address, and have proof of deliveries, that may help.
If your partner has been given the right to appeal (check the refusal letter) the procedure is described here:
I have read the support statements from the Appellant and Sponsor together with the documentary and photographic evidence. I am satisfied that they have easily met the evidential burden of establishing this with clear and persuasive evidence which is all in their bundle that they have been in a relationship together since 2014, that they have cohabited since 2016 to date and that their relationship is subsisting.
The conclusion was:I am therefore satisfied that having established that at the time of the application the Appellant met the definition of unmarried partner and no other challenge was raised in relation to their application that it would be disproportionate for the purpose of their Article 8 appeal to refuse the application.
We were also rewarded with a fee award for the appeal "as the evidence before the decision maker was enough to allow the application"On the facts as established in this appeal, there are substantial grounds for believing that refusing the Appellants application would result in treatment in breach of ECHR.
Our timeline is as follows:On the file I had no Respondents bundle and only had the refusal letter because it was provided by the Appellant.
Congratulations, its already over the time and HO can not appeal. There is no average time. People keep quiet and dont hear anything for months without end. Dont just keep silent waiting, get on their back.elbuttano wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:35 amHello. I just wanted to post an update but unfortunately my original post from last year is locked otherwise I would add to it there: immigration-for-family-members/paper-ap ... 17246.html
We appealed a visa refusal for my Colombian girlfriend to join me in the UK as an unmarried partner. A couple of people here in the forum said an appeal would be unlikely to succeed, but we went ahead with it anyway. Good news - the judge of the First-tier Tribunal allowed the appeal. She said there was more than enough evidence submitted in our original application to have granted the visa.
We had the case decided on the papers and we had no solicitor or legal help.
The judge said:
I have read the support statements from the Appellant and Sponsor together with the documentary and photographic evidence. I am satisfied that they have easily met the evidential burden of establishing this with clear and persuasive evidence which is all in their bundle that they have been in a relationship together since 2014, that they have cohabited since 2016 to date and that their relationship is subsisting.The conclusion was:I am therefore satisfied that having established that at the time of the application the Appellant met the definition of unmarried partner and no other challenge was raised in relation to their application that it would be disproportionate for the purpose of their Article 8 appeal to refuse the application.
We were also rewarded with a fee award for the appeal "as the evidence before the decision maker was enough to allow the application"On the facts as established in this appeal, there are substantial grounds for believing that refusing the Appellants application would result in treatment in breach of ECHR.
Something else of note - the Respondent did not submit anything to the court and it's as if this annoyed the judge:
Our timeline is as follows:On the file I had no Respondents bundle and only had the refusal letter because it was provided by the Appellant.
April 2021 - Application submitted
May 2021 - Visa refused
June 2021 - Appeal submitted
February 2022 - Appeal allowed
We got the decision on February 25. Since then we have heard nothing. Am I right in thinking the Home Office has a certain time period to respond to the judge's decision? They could hypothetically appeal it if they wanted to? Should we just be waiting for an email from HO and what is the average time that takes?
Many thanks, and good luck to anybody else who is also appealing - our case goes to show it is not always a lost cause.
It's not very helpful that they don't have access to specific case information. What if somebody didn't hear about their visa for two years or something - how would they be able to chase it?Thank you for contacting UK Visas and Immigration International Contact Centre.
With regards to your enquiry,
We are unable to confirm whether an appeal decision has been received from the courts.
We do not have access to specific case information . Please wait for formal contact or a decision letter before taking any further steps.
Regards,
UK Visas and Immigration