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I listened to this earlier and must say that I found it depressing - I have been feeling upbeat about the FBR and things picking back up, but after that I'm not too sure. It also struck me as concerning how they started the show with words to the effect of ‘we all know about the long standing and never ending passport problems, and it’s boring to discuss too much, but let’s have a special show to discuss…’Corkythecat wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:58 pmWith all the waiting and no information or communication so many are despairing.
The FBR and passport processing is a clearly a big issue for the whole country. The passport delays featured in a Live phone-in on RTE radio just a few weeks ago. If you want to hear some of the issues experienced it gives some insights into the widespread frustrations with the service.
https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/21994595/
I must say I feel your suspicions are correct, Duffy. Looking at Simon Coveney's words from a statement analysis perspective I draw the following conclusions:-duffy1867 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:14 pmI listened to this earlier and must say that I found it depressing - I have been feeling upbeat about the FBR and things picking back up, but after that I'm not too sure. It also struck me as concerning how they started the show with words to the effect of ‘we all know about the long standing and never ending passport problems, and it’s boring to discuss too much, but let’s have a special show to discuss…’Corkythecat wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:58 pmWith all the waiting and no information or communication so many are despairing.
The FBR and passport processing is a clearly a big issue for the whole country. The passport delays featured in a Live phone-in on RTE radio just a few weeks ago. If you want to hear some of the issues experienced it gives some insights into the widespread frustrations with the service.
https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/21994595/
If this passport backlog which was to be cleared in 8 weeks (over a year ago), is longer than ever, and the passport is priority over FBR, then I really struggle to see how it will be A) cleared anytime soon and B) there be enough capacity to let staff work on FBR applications again.
If passports cannot be sorted quickly for current citizens, I worry about the levels of priority for potential citizens under FBR (and probably rightly so...)
Congratulations! Your dates are getting close to my wife's (application: 10 Oct 2019, docs received 18 Oct). Out of interest were your corroborating documents from First world English speaking countries or did you have any from "less efficient" ones?Airlake wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:03 pmI've been using the forum to see how applications have been progressing and found it helpful. So I'm posting my timeline
Application submitted: 19/10/2019
Documents received: 18/11/2019
Confirmation address email: 6/09/2021
Added to register email 6/09/2021
I responded as soon as I got the address confirmation email. They got back to me in a couple of hours saying I had been added to the register and it would take 6-8 weeks to receive the certificate.
Things are moving and I hope this helps people
Why do you think your FBR application takes so long? Is the Kenyan government so slow?SLwlss wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:44 pmCongratulations! Your dates are getting close to my wife's (application: 10 Oct 2019, docs received 18 Oct). Out of interest were your corroborating documents from First world English speaking countries or did you have any from "less efficient" ones?Airlake wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:03 pmI've been using the forum to see how applications have been progressing and found it helpful. So I'm posting my timeline
Application submitted: 19/10/2019
Documents received: 18/11/2019
Confirmation address email: 6/09/2021
Added to register email 6/09/2021
I responded as soon as I got the address confirmation email. They got back to me in a couple of hours saying I had been added to the register and it would take 6-8 weeks to receive the certificate.
Things are moving and I hope this helps people
My wife's application consists of 3 Kenyan docs and 2 South African docs so if the Irish have to check with those Governments then I'll pencil in a 2035 approval date...
Yes, very slow. I applied for additional copies of 2 of the documents I used in the application in May 2019 through my local Kenyan embassy and am still waiting. They found the one in Dec 2020 but have still not issued it to me yet so hopefully the FBR team don't require any direct government-government verification on documents.maishun wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:32 pmWhy do you think your FBR application takes so long? Is the Kenyan government so slow?SLwlss wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:44 pmCongratulations! Your dates are getting close to my wife's (application: 10 Oct 2019, docs received 18 Oct). Out of interest were your corroborating documents from First world English speaking countries or did you have any from "less efficient" ones?Airlake wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:03 pmI've been using the forum to see how applications have been progressing and found it helpful. So I'm posting my timeline
Application submitted: 19/10/2019
Documents received: 18/11/2019
Confirmation address email: 6/09/2021
Added to register email 6/09/2021
I responded as soon as I got the address confirmation email. They got back to me in a couple of hours saying I had been added to the register and it would take 6-8 weeks to receive the certificate.
Things are moving and I hope this helps people
My wife's application consists of 3 Kenyan docs and 2 South African docs so if the Irish have to check with those Governments then I'll pencil in a 2035 approval date...
I haven't heard anything at all for 25 months, good to see that the passport email got a reaction.Countrychicken wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:49 amThank you all it’s a relief. I left it for about 18 months and phoned December 20 to be told it was on the pile next to do. I then tried several web chats and go no where.
I was so angry come July this year when it had been over 2 years. So I emailed the passport email address with all my dates and communication. A week later I had a phone call.
My application was not complete. I was missing my dads if as we are estranged. I had to send over his siblings birth and death certificate and things went quickly then.
I think they are processing all the ones they can that are straight forward and any that are incomplete or complicated leaving until some of the backlog is sorted.
Unfortunately, I think the July written answer makes the situation fairly clear:duffy1867 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:14 pm
I listened to this earlier and must say that I found it depressing - I have been feeling upbeat about the FBR and things picking back up, but after that I'm not too sure. It also struck me as concerning how they started the show with words to the effect of ‘we all know about the long standing and never ending passport problems, and it’s boring to discuss too much, but let’s have a special show to discuss…’
If this passport backlog which was to be cleared in 8 weeks (over a year ago), is longer than ever, and the passport is priority over FBR, then I really struggle to see how it will be A) cleared anytime soon and B) there be enough capacity to let staff work on FBR applications again.
If passports cannot be sorted quickly for current citizens, I worry about the levels of priority for potential citizens under FBR (and probably rightly so...)
These documents have to be submitted authenticated as per vienna conviction. In EU a simple notar is accepted, outside, foreign affairs dept stamp is required and in banana republics an additional notar stamp required
Angelo_2019 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:10 amUnfortunately, I think the July written answer makes the situation fairly clear:duffy1867 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:14 pm
I listened to this earlier and must say that I found it depressing - I have been feeling upbeat about the FBR and things picking back up, but after that I'm not too sure. It also struck me as concerning how they started the show with words to the effect of ‘we all know about the long standing and never ending passport problems, and it’s boring to discuss too much, but let’s have a special show to discuss…’
If this passport backlog which was to be cleared in 8 weeks (over a year ago), is longer than ever, and the passport is priority over FBR, then I really struggle to see how it will be A) cleared anytime soon and B) there be enough capacity to let staff work on FBR applications again.
If passports cannot be sorted quickly for current citizens, I worry about the levels of priority for potential citizens under FBR (and probably rightly so...)
https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id ... 7-27a.2337
They allocated the FBR staff to other work and are so overwhelmed by the backlog I can't see them catching up before the middle of next year at the earliest.
* As noted, the passport backlog increased from 90,000 to 120,000 - it is growing, not being cleared.
* The FBR backlog is over 30,000 applications, but they've never managed to process 20,000 in a year.
* The news article talked about opening in Sept as gradual, full operation not until Oct 22.
* Postings on this board show processing times of 18-28 months for normal applications, with the occasional lost document. It is clearly not in date order.
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According to Simon Coveney when the passport office is up and running they process 120,000 passports a week. Assuming that this is true, even if the office were to run at half capacity they should still be able to clear the backlog in a couple of weeks, and at a quarter capacity, within a month. With all the extra staff they are recruiting one would think they would be able to get through this. Mr Coveney has stated that they plan on getting to FBR processing back to pre-pandemic levels (12-18 months processing time) by the end of 2021. It's pretty much one of the only quantified and relatively specific indications he has given in regards to FBR processing.
Hi Luna,Luna2019 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:30 pmHi everyone. I applied for FBR for my kids over 2 years ago. But good news! The applications have been approved.
We applied in early August of 2019. Their certificates arrived this month (September 2021).
I am now applying for passports. Anyone have any advice there? I believe it says that you must submit your original country of origin passports with the application. For us, those would be US passports. I hate giving up those originals. But is that the procedure? Have I understood that correctly?
Many thanks again for this forum. I hope that others are able to report good news soon.
Hi Luna,Luna2019 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:30 pmHi everyone. I applied for FBR for my kids over 2 years ago. But good news! The applications have been approved.
We applied in early August of 2019. Their certificates arrived this month (September 2021).
I am now applying for passports. Anyone have any advice there? I believe it says that you must submit your original country of origin passports with the application. For us, those would be US passports. I hate giving up those originals. But is that the procedure? Have I understood that correctly?
Many thanks again for this forum. I hope that others are able to report good news soon.
Julius. Since you wrote this, you've dominated this thread with multiple posts, many made in the early hours of the morning. The fact remains that you only put in your FBR application 3 months ago so, even before Brexit or Covid, would still have had at least 12 months waiting in the queue. Yet you've taken up residence here, filling every page with posts, most of which are your own campaign and don't actually provide any assistance or information to users with the FBR application process. With regards to your campaign to put pressure on the Irish Government to allocate more resource to FBR processing, I think most of us realise it's just naïve. Like you, I listened to the RTE radio phone-in show but what I heard were lots of frustrated Irish citizens complaining about the problems they are having with the processing of their passport applications or renewals. FBR was not mentioned once. There is no political pressure from Irish voters over FBR because it is of negligible importance to them, unlike the processing of their own passports.Flatcap_Julius wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:03 pmFor the record I would like to apologise to everyone for how I carried on before. I was really stupid, worrying about my job in Luxembourg and not being able to live in my cottage in Brittany. Ever since I owned it I have never spent more than 90 days there so it is not a huge issue. As for working in the EU, there will be...
Hi LunaLuna2019 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:30 pmHi everyone. I applied for FBR for my kids over 2 years ago. But good news! The applications have been approved.
We applied in early August of 2019. Their certificates arrived this month (September 2021).
I am now applying for passports. Anyone have any advice there? I believe it says that you must submit your original country of origin passports with the application. For us, those would be US passports. I hate giving up those originals. But is that the procedure? Have I understood that correctly?
Many thanks again for this forum. I hope that others are able to report good news soon.
Exactly. I just scroll past hot-air posts. (eg 109 posts in under 3 months )