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littlerr wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 2:57 amDid they tell you what kind of convictions? How many convictions? Are they traffic offences (parking offences, speeding etc) or anything else? You may be able to get away with one or two minor traffic offences but anything other than that would raise a big red flag.
First of all, date of conviction is different from date of offence. If you, for example, received a speeding ticket, and you decided to ignore it, they would send you a second ticket in a few months. If you ignored it again, you get a summon to court in another few months’ time, and the court date may be another few months away. This means, you may not get a court date until up to a year later. For certain crimes it may take even longer to get a court date.
It is very likely that you had some offences back in 2013 - 2014, and you somehow didn’t receive the NIP (have you always been keeping police/immigration/authority up to date of your current address?), and subsequently was summoned to the court and was convicted in absentia, after you have moved to Ireland.
If you have all evidences present, you may be able to argue that you did not receive the summon from the court as you have already moved abroad, but what’s more worrying here is the fact that it mentioned ‘offences’ instead of ‘one offence’. That indicates that you had been in trouble with the authority more than once. That will almost certainly have a significant impact to all of your future visas and naturalisation applications.
Can you please tell me where I need to apply to receive this UK report.lovebino wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 2:13 amYou could request a police cert from the UK to see what is that if you are unsure. I did this in Ireland before submitting my Irish citizenship application. If it is really there in your case, I would consider to write to the department to explain. Maybe other people in this forum might give a better idea.
Moon2021 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:46 pmCan you please tell me where I need to apply to receive this UK report.lovebino wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 2:13 amYou could request a police cert from the UK to see what is that if you are unsure. I did this in Ireland before submitting my Irish citizenship application. If it is really there in your case, I would consider to write to the department to explain. Maybe other people in this forum might give a better idea.
Thank you
Thank younisi wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:13 pmYou probably want to make a Subject Access Request from https://www.acro.police.uk/Subject-Access-Online.aspx which should tell you everything the police hold about you, rather than a police certificate (which is intended for use for applying for a visa/citizenship for a country other than the UK).
I do not think the Irish State has any capacity to even enquire about your behaviour in the UK , unless it is already publicly known (in the papers) .Moon2021 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 1:45 amHi everyone
I am in very strange situation I applied for citizenship application in April 2021.
Few weeks back I applied for UK visit visa but my UK visa got refused the reason they gave me in the refusal letter that I have criminal convictions in UK in 2015 and 2016 I didn't disclosed them in my application but the problem is I never knew about this convictions and the funny thing is I was living in Ireland in 2015 and 2016 then how I got this convictions and I have never done anything such like that while I was living in England that will make these convictions now I am worried about my Irish citizenship application.
I don't know what to do about all this mess.
Please if anyone know what step should I take to clear my name or find more about these convictions.
Thank you
You conflate applications for naturalisation with applications for passports. Observe:OneWorld2122 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:25 amWhy do you thing Ireland or Garda don’t have capacity to check criminal charges in UK ?
There are majority of applications coming from Northern Ireland and UK and you think they get citizenship even without criminal checks …. Really ??
Most of the applicants from Ni and UK are Entitled to Irish citizenship as of birth and so are going straight to making applications for passportsOneWorld2122 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:25 amWhy do you thing Ireland or Garda don’t have capacity to check criminal charges in UK ?
There are majority of applications coming from Northern Ireland and UK and you think they get citizenship even without criminal checks …. Really ??
I have applied online on acro UK website for subject access report so in that report I will find out in detail what these convictions are.Jumbo Breakfast Role wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:33 amI do not think the Irish State has any capacity to even enquire about your behaviour in the UK , unless it is already publicly known (in the papers) .Moon2021 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 1:45 amHi everyone
I am in very strange situation I applied for citizenship application in April 2021.
Few weeks back I applied for UK visit visa but my UK visa got refused the reason they gave me in the refusal letter that I have criminal convictions in UK in 2015 and 2016 I didn't disclosed them in my application but the problem is I never knew about this convictions and the funny thing is I was living in Ireland in 2015 and 2016 then how I got this convictions and I have never done anything such like that while I was living in England that will make these convictions now I am worried about my Irish citizenship application.
I don't know what to do about all this mess.
Please if anyone know what step should I take to clear my name or find more about these convictions.
Thank you
However, if you feel that you have an inaccurate record in the UK, you should contact a lawyer and get that amended. One might have been in another country at the time of a conviction (normally countries like Ireland and UK do not convict in absence ) , are you sure that you never came to the adverse attention of the police eg road traffic matters ? There can often be a time gap between arrest and charge and the date of conviction
The UK would have their version of Freedom Of Information and their versions of Data Protection data requests. Seek them out on your records.
UK would also give upon request a certificate confirming all , if any, criminal records
They have your real name , age etc ?
It is one thing to be accused of failure to disclose, but another to claim that you cause deception.
Where you aware of any possible court case before you left ?
Is it possible someone else used your identity ?
I have started the process contacted met police London now waiting to hear from them.easylad wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:19 pmIf it is 100% true that it wasn't you, the following one if two cases would have happened,
1) You have a common name
Or 2) You are a victim of identity fraud
Like the folks said, you should reach out to the UK Metropolitan Police for a criminal background check to launch an appeal.
Get a suitable qualified criminal lawyer registered to practice in England , first ! Do not do this on your ownMoon2021 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:11 pmI have started the process contacted met police London now waiting to hear from them.easylad wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:19 pmIf it is 100% true that it wasn't you, the following one if two cases would have happened,
1) You have a common name
Or 2) You are a victim of identity fraud
Like the folks said, you should reach out to the UK Metropolitan Police for a criminal background check to launch an appeal.
Thank you for you reply