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I am unsure what exactly you mean as "address proof". I don't see that requirement on Citizenship Application pages anymore, only that you need to gather proof of residency and achieve 150 points. If that's what you're referring to, P60s are more than fine and welcome, as they show you reside there and earn salary. You would have to supply some other documents that show your address (bills/tenancy agreement/etc).OneWorld2122 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:27 pmI see in p60 from year 2016, 17…. There is no address mentioned anywhere and it was used to be provided by employer can it still be used as address proof ?
meself2 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:03 pmI am unsure what exactly you mean as "address proof". I don't see that requirement on Citizenship Application pages anymore, only that you need to gather proof of residency and achieve 150 points. If that's what you're referring to, P60s are more than fine and welcome, as they show you reside there and earn salary. You would have to supply some other documents that show your address (bills/tenancy agreement/etc).OneWorld2122 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:27 pmI see in p60 from year 2016, 17…. There is no address mentioned anywhere and it was used to be provided by employer can it still be used as address proof ?
Jumbo Breakfast Role wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:37 pmTry not to worry too much. Moving to different addresses, if renting is VERY common.
You may not have kept GNIB up to date of your address (if required) . You may have tried to contact them by email etc to keep them or ISD up to date but they lost it (it can happen)
Bear in mind, especially in the last few years of landlords acting terribly with tenants, rubbish or unsuitable housing conditions, difficulty in finding suitable and cheaper rent etc
Just set out all of the addresses and timelines, and provide the essentials like bank statements for the full period (people often forget to update their bank as to their up to date addresses when they change them , but some may)
Try and get the PRTB letters for the places that you stay longer - I do not think that you need to ask the landlord to do it for you , contact PRTB
Revenue letters - one would often keep them up to date; P60s
Yes , most of these are no longer handed out in the post, HOWEVER, when you register with revenue website, you WILL automatically have a profile and all of your key documents for 2-3 years ready to access
Likewise, your mobile phone bill - many don't bother getting them in the post. Refer to their website and register a profile
OneWorld2122 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:46 amDo you think, even if p60 don’t have Irish address it could still be counted toward residency proof ?meself2 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:03 pmI am unsure what exactly you mean as "address proof". I don't see that requirement on Citizenship Application pages anymore, only that you need to gather proof of residency and achieve 150 points. If that's what you're referring to, P60s are more than fine and welcome, as they show you reside there and earn salary. You would have to supply some other documents that show your address (bills/tenancy agreement/etc).OneWorld2122 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:27 pmI see in p60 from year 2016, 17…. There is no address mentioned anywhere and it was used to be provided by employer can it still be used as address proof ?
Your evident poor grasp of the English language is no excuse for the false statements that you made . I don’t wish to sound mean , but ill informed opinion is no substitute for facts .littlerr wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:56 pmQuite a bit of the information provided in the previous post is inaccurate.
Not keeping INIS updated about the address is an offence. INIS must be kept up-to-date about all address changes within 7 days of moving. INIS has a habit of giving people hard time because of this, as evident in multiple threads here. If it's just a few days out, that is usually fine. If you just completely forgot to update the address for a few months, then you will need to submit your explanation in the cover letter.
Mobile bills are never accepted as proof of address. Never was. Never will be.
Current accounts are namely where your monthly salary gets into. They should be the primary source of your income and usually also correspond to your monthly direct debit commitments (rents, utility bills, mortgages, lendings etc). That is the single most important proof that you live here. It is a mandatory requirement to have a current account for non-EU applicants as the initial registration will always require you to submit proof of bank accounts.
Credit card accounts, on the other hand, don't really matter that much. You don't have to have one. Some people prefer credit cards to debit cards as they give them much more flexibility and have greater spending limits, but it isn't as nearly important as your current account or your P60/EDS.
You stated, clearly, "previous post". The post previous to your post, was my post. That to anyone with half a brain cell means , my post .littlerr wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:15 pmIn case this isn't abundantly clear, I was not replying to you. I was replying to the OP and providing correct information as opposed to spreading lies. There is no need to be arrogant with your pathetic level of English.
Having helped people here for more than 3 years now, I have learned to shut my mouth to people who have no grasp of immigration laws while pretending to help people with the real aim of harassing people here. However, spreading lies is not helpful to anyone and is beyond my usual tolerance. Only updating addresses at renewal is one of the biggest red flags that INIS deals with both in the registration team and in BMU. I am not sure why you would indict the contrary other than having a malicious intent.
I am going to reply to you only this once. If you are really going looking to help people, keep yourself updated with the Immigration Act 2004. I am not sure if you have the ability to use Ctrl + F, so let me tell you that Section 9 is one of the most quoted section when INIS issues warnings to people. I hope you have time to read through that.
It is common enough for INIS to issue oral or written warnings to non-EU nationals when addresses have not been updated.
Again, I don't understand why you would bring up the mobile phone bill. This should be common sense. It is not a valid proof of evidence in any country. It wasn't listed as an acceptable proof before. It isn't now either with the new approach. Gov.ie has a comprehensive list of what constitutes a proof of residence and you will find that it explicitly spelled out that only fixed line phone bills as opposed to mobile phone bills count as proof of residence.
'Any document that have itemised dates and addresses can be useful to support evidence of residency'. That is utter BS. Why do you think INIS introduces the new scorecard approach with detailed scores for each acceptable proof, if any random document can just be submitted?
"when you enter the country"mentalmind wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:40 pmApart from all the drama in the thread, here are the facts:
1- You need to keep your address up to date with INIS, in a week (or a month) after you change your address. It's an offense not to. This is the reason they ask/verify your address when you enter country.
2- Your bill address should prove your residence address. It will look and suspicious if your current address and bill address is different (in my opinion)
I moved to 4 different address in my 2 years in Ireland. When I asked solicitor that I have doctor's invoice to prove my attendance with the actual date, but the address on invoice was outdated (it was one of my previous addresses and I didn't bother to keep it updated) and my solicitor said it's not a good idea to use them. So just keep keep this in mind, total different addresses would be an issue for sure.
Get every document with date and address that you can get . Do not dismiss any document as being useless.
What do you mean your GNIB does not match? I have moved and told them so, but they don’t seem to update your card, or do you just mean the dept?