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Good luck! That is, hopefully the airline will let you board the plane .... but probably a good chance that they will not.So I have bought the ticket today and flying on friday with WIZZAIR Romania- London Luton airport
That was not very sensible, was it! After all you might have been missing just one piece of evidence, and armed with that the EEA Family Permit might be granted. But now, well you don't have a clue why they refused you!I didnt even ask for the refusal letter cus I was too angry and I dont even wanna hear there stupid reason as it makes no sense after-all they cant change there mind or the decision that as being made.
So you DID get the refusal letter?charles4u wrote: Hello all, I am married to a Romanian and she works in the UK and I wanted to join her there but I was refused the visa saying we met too soon to get married according to the consular officer and just bringing out things just for her reason to refuse like the phone call bills of the calls we made b4 meeting..
WHY are you so rude?What kind of idiot are you coming to the UK without entry clearance and a recent refusal to boot! You are going to make things much worse and that will lead to further delays.
As the UK currently doesn't follow the directive, what's going to happen to charles4u at the airport?freon21 wrote:European directives should be respected even by the uk.family members of EEA citizens holders of eea residence cards do not need entry clearence or any kind of visas.
It is about time that the uk accept all the consequences of signing to them or pull out of the EU once for all but would the uk can really afford it????
Good luck Charles
Put yourself in the position of the airline. For every person they bring into the UK who needs Entry Clearance in advance, and who has not got that Entry Clearance, the airline can be fined £2000 ..... per such passenger. They are also liable to return the person to the place from where they came.charles4u wrote:Well I intend trying and hopefully the airline carrys me as I am not sure myself
So charles4u, the blunt question is .... what proof will you be taking with you on your journey to show that your wife is exercising EU Treaty Rights in the UK? Notice in particular, at 5.5.2 :-5.5.1 Admission of family members who are unable to produce a valid passport, family permit or residence card
Immigration officers will need to assess whether or not a person qualifies for admission under the EEA Regulations in the above situations.
produces satisfactory evidence on arrival
Yes, but the OP's problem is that he's already applied abroad and been refused, so unless he comes up with something that wasn't available to the ECO, they might well decide that he must make his case from abroad.John wrote:charles4u, don't get me wrong, I wish you well, but the reality is that you have little chance of getting on the plane.
However, in case you do make it to Luton, you might like to have a read of this UKBA document, which is part of the instructions given to UKBA border staff. Indeed you might like to print it out and take a copy to the airport!
Read 5.5 in particular, and note :-
So charles4u, the blunt question is .... what proof will you be taking with you on your journey to show that your wife is exercising EU Treaty Rights in the UK? Notice in particular, at 5.5.2 :-5.5.1 Admission of family members who are unable to produce a valid passport, family permit or residence card
Immigration officers will need to assess whether or not a person qualifies for admission under the EEA Regulations in the above situations.
produces satisfactory evidence on arrival
You need the following documents at point of admission-charles4u wrote:I understand JONH and its ok whatever anybody says after-all I have to admit the fact that its 30% possible and 70% not possible.
I just wanna try, So for the prove from my wife... yes she has her Yellow card which is the residence document for romanians to work and stay in UK, I have her ID, a link from the UK gov site saying reasons why an officer will refuse an entry(having a refusal wasnt there) so being the fact that I have an EU residence its should be considerable, I will also have the EU directive also and some other personal papers. So I will be having a printed copies of all this papers and proves and ofcourse expecting the worst.
I know the refusal might be the delay or problem in Luton but my main concern is the airline which I dont know for sure if they will understand so good.
brownbonno wrote:You need the following documents at point of admission-charles4u wrote:I understand JONH and its ok whatever anybody says after-all I have to admit the fact that its 30% possible and 70% not possible.
I just wanna try, So for the prove from my wife... yes she has her Yellow card which is the residence document for romanians to work and stay in UK, I have her ID, a link from the UK gov site saying reasons why an officer will refuse an entry(having a refusal wasnt there) so being the fact that I have an EU residence its should be considerable, I will also have the EU directive also and some other personal papers. So I will be having a printed copies of all this papers and proves and ofcourse expecting the worst.
I know the refusal might be the delay or problem in Luton but my main concern is the airline which I dont know for sure if they will understand so good.
-Marriage certificate(Proof of relationship)
-Proof that your wife is in the UK and exercising her treaty rights
-Copy(ies) of her identity
-your passport(Proof of identification)
-Possibly your wife`s telephone number
That is far too optimistic! Personally I would put your chances are say 1% possible and 99% not possible.charles4u wrote:the fact that its 30% possible and 70% not possible
Thank u and I will have that in mind as I said earlier. So Brownbonno I was refering to my main nigerian passport that I used in applying for the EEA, its was dated that I made an application and normally the visa should be placed on it but unfortunately not.John wrote:That is far too optimistic! Personally I would put your chances are say 1% possible and 99% not possible.charles4u wrote:the fact that its 30% possible and 70% not possible
Above you are getting very good advice about what documents you should present at Luton Airport, should you make it that far.