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recoknable residence

Post by zahid z » Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:02 am

hi,
please i apologize if am creating a new thread or any discussed topic im new to the board and dont know how to use it.
it will be great help if u can plz guide me im spouse of irish national.
my three years will be from August 2019- August 2022
i will apply in august 2022
can i give proof of address for 2020,2021,2022 or do i have give it for 2019 2020 and 2021because according to new score card i dont have enough proof for 2019.
thank you so much

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Re: recoknable residence

Post by Obie » Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:29 am

The years do not need to be continuous.
Smooth seas do not make skilful sailors

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Re: recoknable residence

Post by johnpromise01 » Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:51 am

Obie wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:29 am
The years do not need to be continuous.
Do you mean he can use:

Bank statement dated in 2011
Bank statement dated 2014
Bank statement dated 2020

Is that correct?

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Re: recoknable residence

Post by Obie » Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:55 am

johnpromise01 wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:51 am
Obie wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:29 am
The years do not need to be continuous.
Do you mean he can use:

Bank statement dated in 2011
Bank statement dated 2014
Bank statement dated 2020

Is that correct?
I did not say that at all, the OP never gave those dates.

If he had given those dates, he would not have received that response from me.
Smooth seas do not make skilful sailors

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Re: recoknable residence

Post by OneWorld2122 » Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:01 am

If I was you, I would directly email and ask the ISD that way you will have proof and attach it with the application.

Otherwise, taking a defensive approach would have provided the address of each year 2019, 20, 21, and 22 as you are claiming almost half of 2019 and 22 but in your situation, you don't have enough proof for 2019 so better check with ISD as they may take a month to reply and you have sufficient time to wait for reply.
zahid z wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:02 am
hi,
please i apologize if am creating a new thread or any discussed topic im new to the board and dont know how to use it.
it will be great help if u can plz guide me im spouse of irish national.
my three years will be from August 2019- August 2022
i will apply in august 2022
can i give proof of address for 2020,2021,2022 or do i have give it for 2019 2020 and 2021because according to new score card i dont have enough proof for 2019.
thank you so much

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Re: recoknable residence

Post by ttowners » Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:14 am

agree, do send email 1st.. by the time they reply your email, you might already have enough years to apply.

this is taking forever.

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Re: recoknable residence

Post by Obie » Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:21 am

The law is that in the last 4 years prior to naturalisation, you should have a total of 3 years residence in the state.

The final year should be contiuous residence.

But you are then allowed to chose any 2 years in the 4 years preceding the naturalisation application.

You certainly cannot choose 2011.

However you may choose 2018, 2020, 2021.

However August 2021 to August 2022 must be continuous residence in the state. So long as that is met, you can choose any 2 years in the 4 years period.
Smooth seas do not make skilful sailors

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Re: recoknable residence

Post by johnpromise01 » Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:47 am

Obie wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:21 am
The law is that in the last 4 years prior to naturalisation, you should have a total of 3 years residence in the state.

The final year should be contiuous residence.

But you are then allowed to chose any 2 years in the 4 years preceding the naturalisation application.

You certainly cannot choose 2011.

However you may choose 2018, 2020, 2021.

However August 2021 to August 2022 must be continuous residence in the state. So long as that is met, you can choose any 2 years in the 4 years period.

Is there any document required to prove the final year continuous residence other than Passport?

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Re: recoknable residence

Post by johnpromise01 » Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:48 am

Obie wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:55 am
johnpromise01 wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:51 am
Obie wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:29 am
The years do not need to be continuous.
Do you mean he can use:

Bank statement dated in 2011
Bank statement dated 2014
Bank statement dated 2020

Is that correct?
I did not say that at all, the OP never gave those dates.

If he had given those dates, he would not have received that response from me.
I know, i am only indirectly asking you on my own.

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Re: recoknable residence

Post by ttowners » Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:16 pm

johnpromise01 wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:47 am
Obie wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:21 am
The law is that in the last 4 years prior to naturalisation, you should have a total of 3 years residence in the state.

The final year should be contiuous residence.

But you are then allowed to chose any 2 years in the 4 years preceding the naturalisation application.

You certainly cannot choose 2011.

However you may choose 2018, 2020, 2021.

However August 2021 to August 2022 must be continuous residence in the state. So long as that is met, you can choose any 2 years in the 4 years period.

Is there any document required to prove the final year continuous residence other than Passport?


for me, on the final year of residence, i've sent them a full year of bank statements. all showing more then 3pos transaction... hope that would be enough

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Re: recoknable residence

Post by JohnX » Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:29 am

Hi,

But is the three year proof of residence calculated on the calendar years i.e. January to December for each year you were in Ireland or is it calculated on counting three years back from the date you apply, that is if you apply in say Aug 2022 your three years you must supply proof of residency are Aug 2019 to Aug 20210, Aug 2020 to Aug 2021, finally Aug 2021 to Aug 2022. ?

That is the method I was going to use.

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Re: recoknable residence

Post by ttowners » Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:54 am

JohnX wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:29 am
Hi,

But is the three year proof of residence calculated on the calendar years i.e. January to December for each year you were in Ireland or is it calculated on counting three years back from the date you apply, that is if you apply in say Aug 2022 your three years you must supply proof of residency are Aug 2019 to Aug 20210, Aug 2020 to Aug 2021, finally Aug 2021 to Aug 2022. ?

That is the method I was going to use.
I believe whichever suits best for you, one of my friend start on the month he've landed into Ireland. like Sep2016 to Aug2017 as 1 year. I believe as long as its reasonable and explained in the cover letter how you presenting your evidence.. then it should be fine..

Sometime this would work very well if you dont have enough supporting doc in a single year.(i think this happens a lot in the accounting world, you end up with difference figures by choosing a different start & ed day)

for me I worked out i will have more points per year if i go from JAN- DEC..

i dont see a rule in terms of when should the year start when counting resident year.. but there is a rule to say you must have a full year visa before your application date.

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Re: recoknable residence

Post by zahid z » Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:04 am

After waiting for so long this is the reply i got from INIS which is not even what i have asked 😔
"Thank you for your email.  Please be advised you would have to submit
residency proofs for the years of residency claimed on the residency
calculator."

Regards

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Re: recoknable residence

Post by Nala2021 » Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:40 am

zahid z wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:04 am
After waiting for so long this is the reply i got from INIS which is not even what i have asked 😔
"Thank you for your email.  Please be advised you would have to submit
residency proofs for the years of residency claimed on the residency
calculator."

Regards

Citizenship Heldpesk
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It is impossible to know if they replied reasonably, as we do not know the exact query you sent. If your query was not 100% clear, due to workload, you would expect them to skim over the issue and not take the long time to read between the lines unfortunately.

'You must prove that you have been legally resident on the island of Ireland for at least 3 years out of the last 5 years. This includes 1 year of continuous residence immediately before the date you apply'. This is taken from: https://www.irishimmigration.ie/how-to- ... vilpartner

2022- 5 years takes you back to 2017, so August 2017-August 2022 is 5 years.

So you could do attempt to do (working backwards here):
-August 21-August 22
-August 20-August 21
-August 2017-August 2018

Your last year, August 21-August 2022, needs to be continuous.

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Re: recoknable residence

Post by Nala2021 » Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:22 pm

johnpromise01 wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:47 am
Obie wrote:
Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:21 am
The law is that in the last 4 years prior to naturalisation, you should have a total of 3 years residence in the state.

The final year should be contiuous residence.

But you are then allowed to chose any 2 years in the 4 years preceding the naturalisation application.

You certainly cannot choose 2011.

However you may choose 2018, 2020, 2021.

However August 2021 to August 2022 must be continuous residence in the state. So long as that is met, you can choose any 2 years in the 4 years period.

Is there any document required to prove the final year continuous residence other than Passport?
Your bank account would be sound here as well, along with the potential of giving monthly, paid utility bills if INIS asks for them.

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Re: recoknable residence

Post by zahid z » Fri Mar 04, 2022 2:39 am

Dear members thank you so very much for taking your time and replying.It means alot
thanks a million

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