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Agreesnooky wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:33 pmThat's why there's always an argument to make when it comes to doing appeal. One has to quotes these points and numbers as references and citations.Miss-Suz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:51 pmThe problem here is that the Court of appeal has given choices to HO by agreeing on ground 2. The judge left it to the Secretary of State to decide what she wanted to do next
We wouldn’t have been there if only the Court of appeal judge had confirmed J. Mostyn judgement.
Remember in Alvi vs SSHD, it clear that guidances are not law so it shouldn't perclude anyone meeting the statutory legislation.
So I will say people should fight on because HO will also lose this case as they have deliberately again misled and put out misinformation.
Remember that HO Guidance can't itself preclude anyone from meeting the law
My first EUSS application in 2019 was refused just because I did not apply first for Appendix FM. They had encouraged me to apply for that but I refused. Now let see as this part of the guidance no more exist.KSplendide wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:10 pmMany thanks for the tips and insights @snooky
Such mind numbing news yesterday it seemed to me all hope was lost! But you have just lifted my spirits. Thanks again
I am really grateful for this forum. Law is so complex and with such dodgy and shoddy lawyers I have encountered. I am learning a lot! Who knew that the 'HO guidance won't preclude one from meeting the statutory legislation? '
Like Miss Suz I also do not have leave under appendix FM but HO placed my EUSS application on hold following the Akinsanya judgement in line with the HO guidance that excludes those who didn't apply- stating that I stand a realistic chance with a domestic application under appendix FM.
It's just encouraging to know that I can still push forward regardless of their tactics.
Amen @ Miss-Suz. Whilst being positive & optimistic - one has to also stay on ready to deal with HO shenanigansMiss-Suz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:53 pmMy first EUSS application in 2019 was refused just because I did not apply first for Appendix FM. They had encouraged me to apply for that but I refused. Now let see as this part of the guidance no more exist.KSplendide wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:10 pmMany thanks for the tips and insights @snooky
Such mind numbing news yesterday it seemed to me all hope was lost! But you have just lifted my spirits. Thanks again
I am really grateful for this forum. Law is so complex and with such dodgy and shoddy lawyers I have encountered. I am learning a lot! Who knew that the 'HO guidance won't preclude one from meeting the statutory legislation? '
Like Miss Suz I also do not have leave under appendix FM but HO placed my EUSS application on hold following the Akinsanya judgement in line with the HO guidance that excludes those who didn't apply- stating that I stand a realistic chance with a domestic application under appendix FM.
It's just encouraging to know that I can still push forward regardless of their tactics.
Fingers crossed and prayers
snooky wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:00 pm
There's nothing you can do. Just wait for your decision. Remember this fight is an individual fight for the strongest not the fainted heart.
HO intentionally twisted this so that many will give up.
Be mindful that within your bundle for appeal, the skeleton argument must be well prepared,
cited, reference and quotes.
snooky wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:54 pmTo Be Free
The good news is most of the tools we need are all on this platform.
As for MPs, they are only good for parliamentary chamber voting either to make democracy an authoritarianism colt and enjoys yeah yeah so that they can be paid.
Their letters are not effective as they don't go for the kill but like from Paul to the corinthians; both houses of Parliament are all inner circle friend but outside enemies.
Start preparing the subject below if you think SSHD has technically eliminated you by substitution.
INDEX TO APPELLANT'S BUNDLE
1. Witness Statement
2. Skeleton Argument
3. Birth Certificate & Passport - Child
4. Refusal letter - Appellant
5. GP Letters – Child
6. School Letter – Child
7. Passport – Appellant
8. Family Photos
9. Extra Curriculum – Child
10. Tickets – Child
11. Letter of support – Child
Thank you @snooky . We will not give up!! I guess the HO policy also keep lawyers in business but together we are strongsnooky wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:54 pmTo Be Free
The good news is most of the tools we need are all on this platform.
As for MPs, they are only good for parliamentary chamber voting either to make democracy an authoritarianism colt and enjoys yeah yeah so that they can be paid.
Their letters are not effective as they don't go for the kill but like from Paul to the corinthians; both houses of Parliament are all inner circle friend but outside enemies.
Start preparing the subject below if you think SSHD has technically eliminated you by substitution.
INDEX TO APPELLANT'S BUNDLE
1. Witness Statement
2. Skeleton Argument
3. Birth Certificate & Passport - Child
4. Refusal letter - Appellant
5. GP Letters – Child
6. School Letter – Child
7. Passport – Appellant
8. Family Photos
9. Extra Curriculum – Child
10. Tickets – Child
11. Letter of support – Child
Do I know for them..... I have no clue what that means.Kmt2014 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 12:11 pmPlease what does this paragraph mean
If you are unable to provide any further evidence that you have completed a continuous qualifying period of five years as defined in Annex 1 to Part 1 of Appendix EU, we will consider your application on the basis of your claimed continuous qualified period as a person with a Zambrano right to reside.
LULUBABY wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:23 amUPDATE : JUST RECEIVED THIS
Thank you for your application under the EU Settlement Scheme.
We are in the process of considering your application and we require some additional information or evidence from you to help us to make sure we reach the correct decision. We would like to reassure you that no decision has been made on your EU Settlement Scheme application at this stage and we will work with you to help you with your application.
Consideration has been given as to whether you qualify for pre-settled status on the basis of completing a continuous qualifying period in the UK as the primary carer of a British citizen, referred to in Appendix EU as being a ‘person with a Zambrano right to reside’
This department requires the following information:
Evidence of your primary care over your sponsor, within the last six months, from January 2022 to June 2022 in the form of a school letter, Dr’s letter, or any other evidence that you have been the primary carer of your sponsor during the last six months.
Further guidance on family members who are eligible to apply to the EU Settlement Scheme along with guidance on documentation to provide as proof of your family relationship to an EEA citizen can be found at https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eucitizens-families.
If you are unable to provide any further evidence that you have completed a continuous qualifying period of five years as defined in Annex 1 to Part 1 of Appendix EU, we will consider your application on the basis of your claimed continuous qualified period as a person with a Zambrano right to reside.
Please provide this information within two weeks of the date of this e-mail so that we can decide your application as quickly as possible.
If you have any queries about this e-mail / letter you can find further information and guidance at www.gov.uk/government/publications/eu-s ... r-guidance.
If you think you cannot provide the evidence we require or think you may need longer to gather the required evidence, please contact the EU Settlement Resolution Centre quoting your unique application number so that we can provide further advice.
You can contact EU Settlement Resolution Centre via telephone or email:
If you’re inside the UK
Telephone: 0300 123 7379
Monday to Friday (excluding bank holidays), 8am to 8pm
Saturday and Sunday, 9:30am to 4:30pm
If you’re outside the UK
Telephone: +44 (0)203 080 0010
Monday to Friday (excluding bank holidays), 8am to 8pm
Saturday and Sunday, 9:30am to 4:30pm
You can find out about the call charges at www.gov.uk/call-charges
EU Settlement Scheme contact form
https://eu-settled-status-enquiries.ser ... v.uk/start
Yours sincerely
Awww Lulubaby!LULUBABY wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:23 amUPDATE : JUST RECEIVED THIS
Thank you for your application under the EU Settlement Scheme.
We are in the process of considering your application and we require some additional information or evidence from you to help us to make sure we reach the correct decision. We would like to reassure you that no decision has been made on your EU Settlement Scheme application at this stage and we will work with you to help you with your application.
Consideration has been given as to whether you qualify for pre-settled status on the basis of completing a continuous qualifying period in the UK as the primary carer of a British citizen, referred to in Appendix EU as being a ‘person with a Zambrano right to reside’
This department requires the following information:
Evidence of your primary care over your sponsor, within the last six months, from January 2022 to June 2022 in the form of a school letter, Dr’s letter, or any other evidence that you have been the primary carer of your sponsor during the last six months.
Further guidance on family members who are eligible to apply to the EU Settlement Scheme along with guidance on documentation to provide as proof of your family relationship to an EEA citizen can be found at https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eucitizens-families.
If you are unable to provide any further evidence that you have completed a continuous qualifying period of five years as defined in Annex 1 to Part 1 of Appendix EU, we will consider your application on the basis of your claimed continuous qualified period as a person with a Zambrano right to reside.
Please provide this information within two weeks of the date of this e-mail so that we can decide your application as quickly as possible.
If you have any queries about this e-mail / letter you can find further information and guidance at www.gov.uk/government/publications/eu-s ... r-guidance.
If you think you cannot provide the evidence we require or think you may need longer to gather the required evidence, please contact the EU Settlement Resolution Centre quoting your unique application number so that we can provide further advice.
You can contact EU Settlement Resolution Centre via telephone or email:
If you’re inside the UK
Telephone: 0300 123 7379
Monday to Friday (excluding bank holidays), 8am to 8pm
Saturday and Sunday, 9:30am to 4:30pm
If you’re outside the UK
Telephone: +44 (0)203 080 0010
Monday to Friday (excluding bank holidays), 8am to 8pm
Saturday and Sunday, 9:30am to 4:30pm
You can find out about the call charges at www.gov.uk/call-charges
EU Settlement Scheme contact form
https://eu-settled-status-enquiries.ser ... v.uk/start
Yours sincerely
I totally agree with you @LULUBABY; especially after being blindsided by that crazy stunt HO pulled on Monday! Absolute hoodwink after months of expectations, delay after delay.LULUBABY wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 12:53 pmDon’t just believe HO. Leave oooo this is just the more you look the less you see.
I am already going through trying to write a supporting letter based on what Snooky has posted, reminding them what Mostyn said and what Alvin said etc hoping that the supporting letter will remind them that Lulubaby does not give up just like Gorrilla Glue does not let go of the scalp when used to fix weavon / hair extensions- just incase they have forgotten.