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That is what I thought at first. But now I believe it depends of if the IRP card is automatically cancel, and if it does, whether the official at borders controls allows you to pass with a certified copy of your naturalization certificate (for me, the original is in the passport office).mentalmind wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:02 amFrom my understanding, you don't have to surrender your IRP card when your citizenship got approved, so you can still use IRP card with your current nationality's passport to get on the plane (as airline companies will ask for proof of permission to enter country). And at Irish border, can't you show them your IRP + current nationality's passport and maybe your naturalization certificate?
It shouldn't be a problem at Irish border as you are an Irish citizen, and IRP card (even it's cancelled or nulled or not valid etc) should be enough to travel to Ireland.
I wouldn't worry too much about it. Because most important thing is you can travel back to Ireland with your IRP. If there is a question, or any problem, you will have to deal with Irish passport police. If they can see that you are Irish citizen (or your naturalization certificate) they will not make a big fuss as you are Irish. Otherwise they won't even realize that you applied for Irish citizenship and will check your current passport and IRP.jlrods wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:29 pmHi Everybody,
Thanks for your answers.
In fact, as mentioned by mentalmind, I'm not being asked to give my IRP back. The letter I got is just asking to upload a scanned copy of it when submitting the required documents and pay the payable fee.
In addition, by the time I'm abroad, I won't have the certifacte of naturatilzation either, because only three weeks will have happened since the submition of the declaration of fidelity and loyalty to the Nation. In other words, from the 8 week waiting period the letter says it may take to issue the certificate, I will back to Ireland, roughly at the 3rd week.
So technically, my current conditions and residence permit should be at the same status as now, however I'm still concerned that on the way back the certificate is already issued and sent home, plus I don't know what would happen at the immigratin system level if certificate of naturalization is issued.
Thanks again for your comments.
littlerr wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:47 pmIRP cannot be issued to Irish nationals, so they will become invalid on the day when you become an Irish citizen.
I don’t know if they will mark the card as invalid in their system. They used to just take everyone’s ITP away before issuing the certificate, so that was never an option in the first place.
Regardless, you shouldn’t rely on the IRP card. If you are a visa-required national, you should apply for a free re-entry visa if you don’t have time to apply for an Irish passport. If you are a visa-free national, you can simply travel with your current passport with a copy of your naturalisation certificate.
There is no such basis. As I said, I don’t know if they will mark the card as invalid on the day of ceremony. Maybe there is a few days of delays to update the system. Either way, there is no legal basis for an Irish national to get an IRP card. She simply deliberately concealed the fact that she was an Irish national to get the card.GoWentGone123 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 5:58 pmI respect your opinions because they're are based on facts but i would disagree on this. One of my colleagues's wife who had Irish Citizenship but not Irish Passport was issued a new IRP after she got her Citizenship certificate. She applied on basis of her husband who is Irish as well.littlerr wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:47 pmIRP cannot be issued to Irish nationals, so they will become invalid on the day when you become an Irish citizen.
I don’t know if they will mark the card as invalid in their system. They used to just take everyone’s ITP away before issuing the certificate, so that was never an option in the first place.
Regardless, you shouldn’t rely on the IRP card. If you are a visa-required national, you should apply for a free re-entry visa if you don’t have time to apply for an Irish passport. If you are a visa-free national, you can simply travel with your current passport with a copy of your naturalisation certificate.
Now you make think. Because nobody is expecting that a naturalized irish citizen actually try to get a stamp 4. Nobody even look if she was irish and allowed to get that stamp.GoWentGone123 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:54 pmShe didn't conceal anything at all. She actually applied as an Irish Citizens and uploaded the required documents on the online portal AFTER Citizenship certificate was issued to her. I don't buy this idea that someone can conceal their Irish citizenship from department of Justice/Immigration.
If you get a Stamp 6 you don't need a re-entry visa.Gocho77 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:10 amIn my case I already have an citizenship certificate. I received on 30th of May and apply for my passport a week later. After looking around in this forum it seems that get a re-entry visa is not a real options. The other option is to get a stamp 6. I have email them, but as usual, they have not respond me. What I found was this info from immigrant council.
https://immigrantcouncil.ie/rights/re-e ... -abolished
From there, is my understanding that I if I do not have an IRP I need to apply for stamp 6 and then for a re-entry visa. And to apply for a stamp 6 I need to send my original naturalization certificate (which I do not have)
To sum up, If you become an Irish citizen and they cancel you IRP because of that, You are stuck here for around at least 2 moths regardless of either you apply for a passport or for a stamp 6.
I am, honestly, not sure about that.
You're not an Irish citizen until the ceremony itself, when you get your certificate. Until then your IRP is what proves your immigration status. Would be unwise from ISD to make you give up your IRP to early.Adeelsheikh123 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:31 pmIf please anyone can answer.
I got the approval letter yesterday and I will have to attend ceremony. I have paid 950 and uploaded the passport scan, gnib scan and picture.
Now the question is that I am travelling from 18th Auguest to 24 September, so will I be able to travel as if they ask my GNIB IN BETWENN then I am stuck. The ceremony is in December. Any advice is much appreciated