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Beamsley
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Irish born grandparent query

Post by Beamsley » Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:56 pm

Can you help me understand what is the best / cheapest route to take?

10 year old born in England.
Father born in England.
Grandmother born in Ireland.

Father had an Irish passport - expired in 2000.
Father applying for a new Irish passport.

What is the best route for the 10 year old?
Register as a Foreign Birth - then apply for a passport?
Wait for Father's passport - apply as a child of Irish passport holder?

I'm unsure of the options, if there is more than one option.

Thank you.

meself2
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Re: Irish born grandparent query

Post by meself2 » Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:31 pm

Beamsley wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:56 pm
Wait for Father's passport - apply as a child of Irish passport holder?
don't think that'll help?
your case seems to be D in the scheme here https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/m ... scent.html plus this quote:
If you were born outside of Ireland and your parent (who was also born outside of Ireland) was an Irish citizen or entitled to be an Irish citizen at the time of your birth, then you are entitled to become an Irish citizen.

To claim Irish citizenship, you must have your birth registered in the Foreign Births Register, unless your parent was abroad in the public service at the time of your birth.
I feel like it's FBR regardless but I'm not very familiar with it
FBR folks will clarify
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littlerr
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Re: Irish born grandparent query

Post by littlerr » Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:52 pm

The child does not have automatic rights to Irish citizenship. They must apply for FBR first. Father’s passport is irrelevant.

Beamsley
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Re: Irish born grandparent query

Post by Beamsley » Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:55 pm

meself2 wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:31 pm
Beamsley wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:56 pm
Wait for Father's passport - apply as a child of Irish passport holder?
don't think that'll help?
your case seems to be D in the scheme here https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/m ... scent.html plus this quote:
If you were born outside of Ireland and your parent (who was also born outside of Ireland) was an Irish citizen or entitled to be an Irish citizen at the time of your birth, then you are entitled to become an Irish citizen.

To claim Irish citizenship, you must have your birth registered in the Foreign Births Register, unless your parent was abroad in the public service at the time of your birth.
I feel like it's FBR regardless but I'm not very familiar with it
FBR folks will clarify
This is how I read it but wasn't 100% sure if that was correct. I hadn't seen the table, where D does seem to be the case, before. Thank you.

Beamsley
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Re: Irish born grandparent query

Post by Beamsley » Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:57 pm

littlerr wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:52 pm
The child does not have automatic rights to Irish citizenship. They must apply for FBR first. Father’s passport is irrelevant.
Excellent (I mean, I wish the passport did help and I didn't have to pay €153), thanks for the clarification

G Dog
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Re: Irish born grandparent query

Post by G Dog » Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:51 pm

Foreign Birth Register is the only option

Dalton_Trumbo
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Re: Irish born grandparent query

Post by Dalton_Trumbo » Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:40 pm

Beamsley wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:56 pm
Can you help me understand what is the best / cheapest route to take?

10 year old born in England.
Father born in England.
Grandmother born in Ireland.

Father had an Irish passport - expired in 2000.
Father applying for a new Irish passport.

What is the best route for the 10 year old?
Register as a Foreign Birth - then apply for a passport?
Wait for Father's passport - apply as a child of Irish passport holder?

I'm unsure of the options, if there is more than one option.

Thank you.
Child of Irish citizen born in Ireland is automatically and Irish citizen even if born outside of Ireland. Grandchild is entitled to Irish citizenship via FBR.

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