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Applying for NHS bursary

Post by Happymummy » Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:22 pm

Hi,

Am in a dilemma.I started a health degree course and was wondering will it affect my renewal of my spousal visa when the time comes or should I just forget about applying for it.Also what type of public resources am I meant to avoid? Also is Maintenance loan public resource?

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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by contorted_svy » Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:31 pm

Here is the official list of public funds that you need to avoid: https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... blic-funds
All advice comes from personal research and experience and should not be regarded as professional opinion.

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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by mmicky5050 » Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:56 pm

Sorry to tag along on this post.

The list contains “child benefits” which almost every parent gets. Do these matter if wife and the child are British citizen?

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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by contorted_svy » Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:22 pm

If the wife is British she can claim in her own right.
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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by Happymummy » Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:27 pm

contorted_svy wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:31 pm
Here is the official list of public funds that you need to avoid: https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... blic-funds
So am okay applying for it because I cannot see it in public funds list. Correct me if am wrong.

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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by contorted_svy » Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:51 pm

You should be OK. You can also ask them before you apply.
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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by secret.simon » Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:26 pm

Happymummy wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:22 pm
is Maintenance loan public resource?
Have you checked if you are even eligible for a maintenance loan?

Maintenance loans (and other student financing options) require you to be either a UK or Irish citizen, hold ILR or be on a limited range of other visas (refugee, stateless person, etc).

if you are on a spousal visa, you almost certainly do not qualify.
I am not a lawyer or immigration advisor. My statements/comments do not constitute legal advice. E&OE. Please do not PM me for advice.

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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by Happymummy » Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:04 pm

secret.simon wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:26 pm
Happymummy wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:22 pm
is Maintenance loan public resource?
Have you checked if you are even eligible for a maintenance loan?

Maintenance loans (and other student financing options) require you to be either a UK or Irish citizen, hold ILR or be on a limited range of other visas (refugee, stateless person, etc).
You can apply for full support if all the following apply:

you’re a UK national or Irish citizen or have ‘settled status’ (no restrictions on how long you can stay)
you normally live in England
you’ve been living in the UK, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man for 3 years in a row before the first day of the first academic year of your course (apart from temporary absences such as holidays)

You may be eligible for full support if you’re a UK national (or family member of a UK national) who both:

was living in the EU, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein on 31 December 2021, or returned to the UK by 31 December 2020 after living in the EU, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein
has been living in the UK, the EU, Gibraltar, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein for 3 years in a row before the first day of the first academic year of your course
You may also be eligible if your residency status is one of the following:

refugee (including family members)
humanitarian protection (including family members)
migrant worker or frontier worker from the EU, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein (including family members) with settled or pre-settled status

child of a Swiss national and you and your parent have settled or pre-settled status under the EU Settlement Scheme
child of a Turkish worker who has permission to stay in the UK - you and your Turkish worker parent must have been living in the UK by 31 December 2020
a stateless person (including family members)
an unaccompanied child granted ‘Section 67 leave’ under the Dubs Amendment
a child who is under the protection of someone granted ‘Section 67 leave’, who is also allowed to stay in the UK for the same period of time as the person responsible for them (known as ‘leave in line’)
granted ‘Calais leave’ to remain
a child of someone granted ‘Calais leave’ to remain, who is also allowed to stay in the UK for the same period of time as their parent (known as ‘leave in line’)
you’ve been given settled status (‘indefinite leave to remain’) because you’ve been the victim of domestic violence
you’ve been given settled status (‘indefinite leave to remain’) as a bereaved partner
you or your family member have been granted leave under the Afghan Relocations and Assistance Policy (ARAP) or the Afghan Citizens Resettlement Scheme (ACRS)
you’ve been granted leave to enter or remain in the UK under the Ukraine Family Scheme, the Homes for Ukraine Sponsorship Scheme or the Ukraine Extension Scheme
You could also be eligible if you’re not a UK national and are either:

under 18 and have lived in the UK for at least 7 years
18 or over and have lived in the UK for at least 20 years (or at least half of your life)
You must have been living in the UK, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man for 3 years in a row before the first day of the first academic year of your course.

if you are on a spousal visa, you almost certainly do not qualify.

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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by Happymummy » Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:07 pm

secret.simon wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:26 pm
Happymummy wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:22 pm
is Maintenance loan public resource?
Have you checked if you are even eligible for a maintenance loan?

Maintenance loans (and other student financing options) require you to be either a UK or Irish citizen, hold ILR or be on a limited range of other visas (refugee, stateless person, etc).
Am considered home student with the stay I have been given.

if you are on a spousal visa, you almost certainly do not qualify.

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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by Happymummy » Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:41 pm

contorted_svy wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:51 pm
You should be OK. You can also ask them before you apply.
Thanks.

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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by secret.simon » Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:48 pm

Happymummy wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:07 pm
Am considered home student with the stay I have been given.
Are you sure? I find that surprising that a person on a spousal visa is given Home Student status.

What precisely is your status? Is your spouse an EEA citizen on settled status or a refugee, etc? Or are you under 24 have you lived more than half your life in the UK?
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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by Happymummy » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:09 pm

secret.simon wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:48 pm
Happymummy wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:07 pm
Am considered home student with the stay I have been given.
Are you sure? I find that surprising that a person on a spousal visa is given Home Student status.

What precisely is your status? Is your spouse an EEA citizen on settled status or a refugee, etc? Or are you under 24 have you lived more than half your life in the UK?
My stay is spousal because I changed it from my previous stay which was under 10 yrs.

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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by Happymummy » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:12 pm

secret.simon wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:48 pm
Happymummy wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:07 pm
Am considered home student with the stay I have been given.
Are you sure? I find that surprising that a person on a spousal visa is given Home Student status.

What precisely is your status? Is your spouse an EEA citizen on settled status or a refugee, etc? Or are you under 24 have you lived more than half your life in the UK?
I overstayed then was granted stay under 10 yrs partner route. And yes I have lived half my life in the UK.

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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by secret.simon » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:15 pm

If you are eligible for the Home Student status, then you should be eligible for the Maintenance loan on the same basis.

You should state why you are eligible, as most spousal visaholders are not eligible.
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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by Happymummy » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:49 pm

secret.simon wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:15 pm
If you are eligible for the Home Student status, then you should be eligible for the Maintenance loan on the same basis.

You should state why you are eligible, as most spousal visaholders are not eligible.
Thanks.
I stated my reasons which are:
-Been here half my life.
-Got granted stay under 10yrs partner route which on renewal of my stay I switched to 5yrs.

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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by Ticktack » Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:59 am

Happymummy wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:49 pm
secret.simon wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:15 pm
If you are eligible for the Home Student status, then you should be eligible for the Maintenance loan on the same basis.

You should state why you are eligible, as most spousal visaholders are not eligible.
Thanks.
I stated my reasons which are:
-Been here half my life.
-Got granted stay under 10yrs partner route which on renewal of my stay I switched to 5yrs.
My advise, stay away from the government monies! It's tax payers money, and it clearly states on your BRP that you're not entitled to public funds (No recourse to public funds).

How long you've lived here doesn't matter, it's what you're entitled to or not that matters.
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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by JB007 » Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:47 am

contorted_svy wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:31 pm
Here is the official list of public funds that you need to avoid: https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... blic-funds
Not everthing in on that list. If you want something, you need to read the immigration status requirement very carefully. If unsure, ask an immigration specialist before applying.

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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by Happymummy » Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:55 am

Ticktack wrote:
Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:59 am
Happymummy wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:49 pm
secret.simon wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:15 pm
If you are eligible for the Home Student status, then you should be eligible for the Maintenance loan on the same basis.

You should state why you are eligible, as most spousal visaholders are not eligible.
Thanks.
I stated my reasons which are:
-Been here half my life.
-Got granted stay under 10yrs partner route which on renewal of my stay I switched to 5yrs.
My advise, stay away from the government monies! It's tax payers money, and it clearly states on your BRP that you're not entitled to public funds (No recourse to public funds).

How long you've lived here doesn't matter, it's what you're entitled to or not that matters.
Am a tax payer as well so I dont understand you?I pay my taxes and my spouse has never claimed any benefits.
Could you break it down please?

Also my understanding is that If it is Student/Maintenance I have to pay it back is not for free.
Another thing when I look at NHS,me studying a health course,I will be on placement in my second yr and third year,and that I will be working in Hospital for free without payment.
So help me understand your Statement please.

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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by Ticktack » Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:12 pm

Happymummy wrote:
Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:55 am
Ticktack wrote:
Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:59 am
Happymummy wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:49 pm
secret.simon wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:15 pm
If you are eligible for the Home Student status, then you should be eligible for the Maintenance loan on the same basis.

You should state why you are eligible, as most spousal visaholders are not eligible.
Thanks.
I stated my reasons which are:
-Been here half my life.
-Got granted stay under 10yrs partner route which on renewal of my stay I switched to 5yrs.
My advise, stay away from the government monies! It's tax payers money, and it clearly states on your BRP that you're not entitled to public funds (No recourse to public funds).

How long you've lived here doesn't matter, it's what you're entitled to or not that matters.
Am a tax payer as well so I dont understand you?I pay my taxes and my spouse has never claimed any benefits.Yes you're correct. Everybody that has a NI number is a tax payer. However, until you get to a certain immigration category, you can't get support back. Just the same way one would pay NHS surcharge to use the NHS, which is free for everyone else.
Could you break it down please?

Also my understanding is that If it is Student/Maintenance I have to pay it back is not for free. True, but same way the bank wouldn't give some people access to some credit facilities because they could get kicked out of the country and the bank can't get the money back.
Another thing when I look at NHS,me studying a health course,I will be on placement in my second yr and third year,and that I will be working in Hospital for free without payment.
So help me understand your Statement please. As explained above by JB007, it would be nice to take professional advise before you dip your hands in that pie. No need to justify it to yourself.
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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by JB007 » Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:44 pm

Happymummy wrote:
Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:55 am

Also my understanding is that If it is Student/Maintenance I have to pay it back is not for free.
A huge percentage don't pay it back and it is written off, with that loss paid by the taxpayers. Which is why it is said that University's are state funded (paid for by the taxpayers). It's why Boris said the UK should have a rebate from the EU due to all the EEA students the UK were having to pay for.

Previous government's have talked about the University having to fund half of their previous students debt instead of the taxpayers having to pay it all, to ensure the unitversity is more careful about the courses they run and the standard of the students they take.

The UK is very strict on who is allowed student/maintenance loans and grants.

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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by Happymummy » Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:58 pm

JB007 wrote:
Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:44 pm
Happymummy wrote:
Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:55 am

Also my understanding is that If it is Student/Maintenance I have to pay it back is not for free.
A huge percentage don't pay it back and it is written off, with that loss paid by the taxpayers. Which is why it is said that University's are state funded (paid for by the taxpayers). It's why Boris said the UK should have a rebate from the EU due to all the EEA students the UK were having to pay for.

Previous government's have talked about the University having to fund half of their previous students debt instead of the taxpayers having to pay it all, to ensure the unitversity is more careful about the courses they run and the standard of the students they take.

The UK is very strict on who is allowed student/maintenance loans and grants.
Thanks for the information.

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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by JB007 » Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:30 pm

secret.simon wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:26 pm
Happymummy wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:22 pm
is Maintenance loan public resource?
Have you checked if you are even eligible for a maintenance loan?

Maintenance loans (and other student financing options) require you to be either a UK or Irish citizen, hold ILR or be on a limited range of other visas (refugee, stateless person, etc).

if you are on a spousal visa, you almost certainly do not qualify.
And even British citizens are refused if they don't meet the requirements (which for them is the 3 year rule).

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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by Happymummy » Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:58 pm

JB007 wrote:
Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:30 pm
secret.simon wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:26 pm
Happymummy wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:22 pm
is Maintenance loan public resource?
Have you checked if you are even eligible for a maintenance loan?

Maintenance loans (and other student financing options) require you to be either a UK or Irish citizen, hold ILR or be on a limited range of other visas (refugee, stateless person, etc).

if you are on a spousal visa, you almost certainly do not qualify.
And even British citizens are refused if they don't meet the requirements (which for them is the 3 year rule).
Thanks.

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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by secret.simon » Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:16 pm

Ticktack wrote:
Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:59 am
How long you've lived here doesn't matter, it's what you're entitled to or not that matters.
Just to clarify, in this particular case, the length of the residence in the UK does matter.

Home Student status and student funding is available for non-UK/EEA citizens who have lived in the UK for more than half their lives (if they are between the age 18-24) or for more than 20 years (if they are over the age of 25) on the first day of the first year of their course.

So it is the length of their stay that makes the OP eligible for (not entitled to) the funding.
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Re: Applying for NHS bursary

Post by JB007 » Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:28 pm

If this is the NHS Bursary you also asked about, you will need to keep clicking the links until you find if you are allowed to have it.
https://www.gov.uk/nhs-bursaries/what-youll-get

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