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That's a heroic effort - thanks!GoingBackBackToEire wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:13 pmOkay, I've gone back through the last several pages of this thread and updated my copy of the spreadsheet with the available information from after 26 Oct 2022.
I did it because I enjoy it. Some nice mindless data entry while listening to Christmas music.
I don't know how recent it is to have a photo on your FBR, but my FBR definitely didn't have one (1989 vintage). That's the one I sent in with the FBR applications for my two children. I hope the lack of a photo on my FBR doesn't turn into a problem!input-output wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:25 pmI am not aware t of FBR certificates now having a photo of the applicant - the one issued to our eldest child in 2018 does not have one. Just like that weblink removed by moderator. Is this a recent thing?GoingBackBackToEire wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:08 pmI'm sure you're aware that child's appearance can change a lot in two years.input-output wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:02 amThey create unnecessary bureacracy (e.g. updated photos) for no reason
You're may be unaware that the photo becomes part of your FBR cert.
So that's why they're asking for updated photos.
Mr Hackett also explained how the department had been severely hit by the impact of inflation and dramatic foreign currency fluctuations.smbschrader wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:22 am"The Department of Foreign Affairs said it was snowed under with a backlog of more than 30,000 complex foreign birth registrations, many from British citizens looking for Irish passports after Brexit."
30,000!!
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41021117.html
Amazing effort to get this version of the spreadsheet back, many thanks. But even more amazing is that someone that hasn't been able to register on the forum (xrs) has entered an address check for a September 2021 documents accepted since you resurrected the spreadsheet. September 2021 .GoingBackBackToEire wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:13 pmOkay, I've gone back through the last several pages of this thread and updated my copy of the spreadsheet with the available information from after 26 Oct 2022.
Any info from lurkers or that wasn't posted here has been lost.
Apart from that though, I think the sheet is in pretty good shape.
You're all welcome to add your data to the sheet and keep this party going.
Here's that link again.
Almighty FBR Timeline Spreadsheet - Resurrected!
1989! wow that goes back a ways. You shouldn't have any problems I don't think. It's an official document. I'm sure they're aware that the photo requirement was added sometime after that.smbschrader wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:17 amI don't know how recent it is to have a photo on your FBR, but my FBR definitely didn't have one (1989 vintage). That's the one I sent in with the FBR applications for my two children. I hope the lack of a photo on my FBR doesn't turn into a problem!input-output wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:25 pmI am not aware t of FBR certificates now having a photo of the applicant - the one issued to our eldest child in 2018 does not have one. Just like that weblink removed by moderator. Is this a recent thing?GoingBackBackToEire wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:08 pmI'm sure you're aware that child's appearance can change a lot in two years.input-output wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:02 amThey create unnecessary bureacracy (e.g. updated photos) for no reason
You're may be unaware that the photo becomes part of your FBR cert.
So that's why they're asking for updated photos.
2018 FBR certificates did not have a picture. I have one for my child in my files so it must have been introduced since then. Definitely a wise thing for adults but completely pointless for infants/young children/any children! Ireland had an issue with criminals using birth certificates of deceased chidren to obtain documents but offical response should be appropriate and to be actually working!Dalton_Trumbo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:28 am
1989! wow that goes back a ways. You shouldn't have any problems I don't think. It's an official document. I'm sure they're aware that the photo requirement was added sometime after that.
I got mine in July, and it has a photo for sure. When I was researching applying in 2019 the application then required photos as well so it goes definitely goes back at least a few years. Maybe a post 9/11 terrorism related change that they require pictures of citizens. However, a point in time picture on a document that will never be updated is a strange thing. Would be like never updating the picture on your drivers license of your teenage self.
You're such a legend for a) saving a copy in first place and b) taking the time to do this. I am the exact same as you though, I find a bit of data entry with some nice music very therapeuticGoingBackBackToEire wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:13 pmOkay, I've gone back through the last several pages of this thread and updated my copy of the spreadsheet with the available information from after 26 Oct 2022.
Here's that link again.
Almighty FBR Timeline Spreadsheet - Resurrected!
My email was also addressed to the name on my birth certificate which I have not used for nearly 30 years. I believe the FBR certificates are issued in your birth certificate name.djx138 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:15 pm1. The subject of the email had been changed to include my name, FIRST MIDDLE LAST, but I changed my name by deed poll in 2013 (docked off surname and replaced it with my middle name, so now only have FIRST and LAST names)
Should I be concerned about point 1 above?
So when you apply for your Irish passport, do you get to use your name name, or must it be in your birth certificate name also?Mr_Knight wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:31 pmMy email was also addressed to the name on my birth certificate which I have not used for nearly 30 years. I believe the FBR certificates are issued in your birth certificate name.djx138 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:15 pm1. The subject of the email had been changed to include my name, FIRST MIDDLE LAST, but I changed my name by deed poll in 2013 (docked off surname and replaced it with my middle name, so now only have FIRST and LAST names)
Should I be concerned about point 1 above?
This question is covered in the FAQ, under General Queries: https://www.dfa.ie/citizenship/born-abr ... cent-faqs/djx138 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:47 pmSo when you apply for your Irish passport, do you get to use your name name, or must it be in your birth certificate name also?Mr_Knight wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:31 pmMy email was also addressed to the name on my birth certificate which I have not used for nearly 30 years. I believe the FBR certificates are issued in your birth certificate name.djx138 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:15 pm1. The subject of the email had been changed to include my name, FIRST MIDDLE LAST, but I changed my name by deed poll in 2013 (docked off surname and replaced it with my middle name, so now only have FIRST and LAST names)
Should I be concerned about point 1 above?
if I remember it right, just deed poll is not enough; you'd also need proof of usage dated two years back, but it might just be for renewal;
I now use a different name to the one on my passport or birth certificate
If changing your name through proof of usage, we need 2 documents from 2 different sources which should date back at least two years from the date you make the passport application.
The Passport Service does not accept deed polls to change the name on your Irish passport.
Proof of usage means that you are using this name in everyday life. We need your original documents but we will return these to you.
schmood wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:14 amHelp! Adoption issues
Hey all!
Longtime lurker. Just heard back from FBR. Unfortunately it's not good news.
Submitted my application — 19th October 2020
Docs received — 12th December 2020
I applied on the basis of both paternal grandparents who were born in Ireland. Unfortunately both have documentary issues.
My Irish grandma was adopted at birth. My father did not know this until later in life because it was a family secret. If I understand correctly, my grandmother's birth mother had her very young and out of wedlock so they gave the child to the family servants (?). It is then understood that my grandmother's birth mother was sent to the United States, but we know little else. My grandmother's birth certificate gives her a different last name entirely to her last name listed on my Father's birth certificate and, if I remember correctly, her marriage certificate. My grandma's adoptive mother is listed as witness on the birth certificate (same last name as the marriage certificate and my Father's birth certificate, which I had hoped would be enough to link her to my Father). My father has 7 siblings and I have a recollection that one of them might have my Grandma's OG last name on them, but not sure, and don't know if that would even help (?)
My paternal grandfather was also born in Ireland, but he was the youngest of 13 children in a very rural area so I do not think the birth was registered (at least we could not find it anywhere )
FBR is asking for my grandmother’s court adoption order papers and her adoptive birth certificate so that they can link her to my father. I'm very doubtful these exist based on what I've been told, but I'd be grateful if anyone has ..
1) been in a similar position
2) knows how to find court adoption papers + adoptive birth certificate
3) knows how to resolve this?
Thank you in advance for your help! Would be so devastated if this won't work out.
I found a problem with the data and I don't know if I can fix it.
It was such a doddle back then. I mailed my application to the Consulate in San Francisco via plain old domestic mail, and the FBR certificate was issued in a month or so. I was truly shocked when I put together my children's FBR applications and realized wait times were over two years long!Dalton_Trumbo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:28 am1989! wow that goes back a ways. You shouldn't have any problems I don't think. It's an official document. I'm sure they're aware that the photo requirement was added sometime after that.smbschrader wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:17 amI don't know how recent it is to have a photo on your FBR, but my FBR definitely didn't have one (1989 vintage). That's the one I sent in with the FBR applications for my two children. I hope the lack of a photo on my FBR doesn't turn into a problem!input-output wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:25 pmI am not aware t of FBR certificates now having a photo of the applicant - the one issued to our eldest child in 2018 does not have one. Just like that weblink removed by moderator. Is this a recent thing?GoingBackBackToEire wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:08 pmI'm sure you're aware that child's appearance can change a lot in two years.input-output wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:02 amThey create unnecessary bureacracy (e.g. updated photos) for no reason
You're may be unaware that the photo becomes part of your FBR cert.
So that's why they're asking for updated photos.
I got mine in July, and it has a photo for sure. When I was researching applying in 2019 the application then required photos as well so it goes definitely goes back at least a few years. Maybe a post 9/11 terrorism related change that they require pictures of citizens. However, a point in time picture on a document that will never be updated is a strange thing. Would be like never updating the picture on your drivers license of your teenage self.
That is funny. I started my original application in the late 90s but got interrupted by life. At that time, you made an appointment at Irish Consulate in Manhattan, walked in and handed them the envelope of documents. Turnaround time was also something close to a month. Was kicking myself for the last 3 years about not just finishing it back then. ha.smbschrader wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:39 pmIt was such a doddle back then. I mailed my application to the Consulate in San Francisco via plain old domestic mail, and the FBR certificate was issued in a month or so. I was truly shocked when I put together my children's FBR applications and realized wait times were over two years long!Dalton_Trumbo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:28 am1989! wow that goes back a ways. You shouldn't have any problems I don't think. It's an official document. I'm sure they're aware that the photo requirement was added sometime after that.smbschrader wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:17 amI don't know how recent it is to have a photo on your FBR, but my FBR definitely didn't have one (1989 vintage). That's the one I sent in with the FBR applications for my two children. I hope the lack of a photo on my FBR doesn't turn into a problem!input-output wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:25 pmI am not aware t of FBR certificates now having a photo of the applicant - the one issued to our eldest child in 2018 does not have one. Just like that weblink removed by moderator. Is this a recent thing?GoingBackBackToEire wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:08 pmI'm sure you're aware that child's appearance can change a lot in two years.input-output wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:02 amThey create unnecessary bureacracy (e.g. updated photos) for no reason
You're may be unaware that the photo becomes part of your FBR cert.
So that's why they're asking for updated photos.
I got mine in July, and it has a photo for sure. When I was researching applying in 2019 the application then required photos as well so it goes definitely goes back at least a few years. Maybe a post 9/11 terrorism related change that they require pictures of citizens. However, a point in time picture on a document that will never be updated is a strange thing. Would be like never updating the picture on your drivers license of your teenage self.