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did you make the declaration in dublin or other regions. My appointment is 20 jan09 in Dublin, despite my application was approved on 18 Oct. I tried to get an appointment in co. Wicklow. But, they only do it for the local residences.flabb2 wrote:Finally I went to the district court for the oath of fidelity.
Great feeling really . I am now waiting for the certificate of naturalisation. Does anybody know how long it takes??? It has been
3 weeks already and no news.
Thanks
thans a million!flabb2 wrote:It is quite straight forward. When you get the application approval they send you a letter with the instructions. You call the district court and make an appointment. You need to go on a Wednesday at 09.30 , I believe.
You queue and then you get the letter and form sent by the immigration.
They fill it in for yo and you must wait until 10.30 when the court is open.
You sit down and wait until they call your name.
The judge calls you to a "witness" stand and you read the declaration.About a sentence long . You state your name , address and the oath. the judge sign it and that is it.
THEN, you take this signed form, add the other documents listed on the letter you received, a bank draf for the fee and send it to the immigration office.The certificate of naturalisation will then be issued.
So is it an option to go district court outside Dublin (your county) ?flabb2 wrote:I got the approval in August and I had to wait until mid October for the district court appointment since it was booked out .I went to the district court in Dublin.
Hi flabb2,flabb2 wrote:"I (...) ,hereby solemnly declare my fidelity to the Irish nation and my Loyalty to the State"
If my source of information is correct Justice collects data from Revenue for all that have got naturalisation - for up to 7 years. Therefore it's needed that you are a tax payer in the country for at least 7 years after you became a paddy!mangrovejack wrote:Hi flabb2,flabb2 wrote:"I (...) ,hereby solemnly declare my fidelity to the Irish nation and my Loyalty to the State"
I'm new here. Would appreciate if you could confirm if there are any conditions imposed on newly naturalised citizen on minimum stay within the state after receiving the certificate &/or passport, i.e., can you leave to become a resident of another country without any reprecussion. Looking at the current situation, this seems to be iminent for some to venture out. Many thanks.
You are not forced to stay in Ireland. I believe you are required to register your intent to keep your Irish citizenship annually (it is somewhere in the citizenship legislation if anyone cares to read it again).Guess-Any-Name wrote:If my source of information is correct Justice collects data from Revenue for all that have got naturalisation - for up to 7 years. Therefore it's needed that you are a tax payer in the country for at least 7 years after you became a paddy!mangrovejack wrote:Hi flabb2,flabb2 wrote:"I (...) ,hereby solemnly declare my fidelity to the Irish nation and my Loyalty to the State"
I'm new here. Would appreciate if you could confirm if there are any conditions imposed on newly naturalised citizen on minimum stay within the state after receiving the certificate &/or passport, i.e., can you leave to become a resident of another country without any reprecussion. Looking at the current situation, this seems to be iminent for some to venture out. Many thanks.
I am sure people in this board will know better!
Do you know how to do this? Is there a defined process?joesoap101 wrote:I believe you are required to register your intent to keep your Irish citizenship annually
Thanks for the insight. 8 years waiting + another 7 for a full citizenship is just madness isn't it. Would you be kind enough to show me the link to the info re citizen legislation? Is it a requirement to be physical present in the State to register the intention to keep the naturalised citizenship, the current situation may not permits many to do so or do they prefer us to sit around on state benefits!!joesoap101 wrote:You are not forced to stay in Ireland. I believe you are required to register your intent to keep your Irish citizenship annually (it is somewhere in the citizenship legislation if anyone cares to read it again).Guess-Any-Name wrote:
If my source of information is correct Justice collects data from Revenue for all that have got naturalisation - for up to 7 years. Therefore it's needed that you are a tax payer in the country for at least 7 years after you became a paddy!
I am sure people in this board will know better!
if i were you, i wouldnt even worry about the registration when you live abroad.mangrovejack wrote:Thanks for the insight. 8 years waiting + another 7 for a full citizenship is just madness isn't it. Would you be kind enough to show me the link to the info re citizen legislation? Is it a requirement to be physical present in the State to register the intention to keep the naturalised citizenship, the current situation may not permits many to do so or do they prefer us to sit around on state benefits!!joesoap101 wrote:You are not forced to stay in Ireland. I believe you are required to register your intent to keep your Irish citizenship annually (it is somewhere in the citizenship legislation if anyone cares to read it again).Guess-Any-Name wrote:
If my source of information is correct Justice collects data from Revenue for all that have got naturalisation - for up to 7 years. Therefore it's needed that you are a tax payer in the country for at least 7 years after you became a paddy!
I am sure people in this board will know better!
Guys, without being rude or something - what are you talking about?! I've been reading this post for few days now and it becomes unbearable!mktsoi wrote: it mentioned in the citizenship application saying that you suppose to register to them after 7 years continuously living abroad after you naturalized to be an irish citizenship.
Answer should be "YES". Yes, at the time of filling this form (2-3 years ago I was "intending".1.9 Do you intend to have your usual or principal place of residence in the State after naturalisation or if married to an Irish citizen in the island of Ireland?
So, you can leave the state, go to the nearest Irish embassy and register there signing the declaration that you intend to keep the Irish citizenship.Irish Nationality and Citizenship Act, 1956
Revocation of certificates of naturalisation
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1956/en/ ... c0019.html
The Minister may revoke a certificate of naturalisation if he is satisfied—
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( c ) that (except in the case of a certificate of naturalisation which is issued to a person of Irish descent or associations) the person to whom it is granted has been ordinarily resident outside Ireland (otherwise than in the public service) for a continuous period of seven years and without reasonable excuse has not during that period registered annually in the prescribed manner his name and a declaration of his intention to retain Irish citizenship with an Irish diplomatic mission or consular office or with the Minister...
It's very difficult for them to revoke a cert of naturalisation and in any case they will notify you well in advance.(2) Before revocation of a certificate of naturalisation the Minister shall give such notice as may be prescribed to the person to whom the certificate was granted of his intention to revoke the certificate, stating the grounds therefor and the right of that person to apply to the Minister for an inquiry as to the reasons for the revocation.
(3) On application being made in the prescribed manner for an inquiry under subsection (2) the Minister shall refer the case to a Committee of Inquiry appointed by the Minister consisting of a chairman having judicial experience and such other persons as the Minister may think fit, and the Committee shall report their findings to the Minister.
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(6) Notice of the revocation of a certificate of naturalisation shall be published in Iris Oifigiúil.
The law allows them to revoke citizenship of naturalised citizens who leave the State withou registering their intent to keep citizenship. Or acquire another citizenship. That doesn't mean that they will do so.strongbow wrote:One more point:
As far as I know EU laws state that there is full freedom to live and work in any EU state, so you are definitely covered as long as you are in another EU state.
Even otherwise I don't think they will go after a law-abiding individual trying to make a honest living elsewhere--after all he/she is not a drain on govt resources like claiming dole or any other state benefits!!
Mendo - please ask new questions on a new thread, not take over something on a different aspect of the topic.mendo wrote:Hi Guys,
On the approval letter they are asking for:
- declaration form - Form 7
- postal order 950 Euro
- two photos
- GNIB card
- Original Travel Document (if applicable)
Does it mean that I have to send my passport in original (as this is my only travel document) ?
Regards,
Mendo