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ILR long residence

Post by aine23 » Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:42 am

Hi all!

I’m currently on a Start-Up visa that was originally given for two years. Then after an year, I applied for the Covid-19 Start Up visa extension because my business started during the pandemic and another 12 months extension was given by the Home Office. I arrived in the UK in 2013 and my 10 years are going to complete in Aug 2023. Can I still apply for ILR based on 10 years lawful residence or my Covid-19 one year extension would not be considered in 10 years period?

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Re: ILR long residence

Post by zimba » Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:37 pm

aine23 wrote:
Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:42 am
Hi all!

I’m currently on a Start-Up visa that was originally given for two years. Then after an year, I applied for the Covid-19 Start Up visa extension because my business started during the pandemic and another 12 months extension was given by the Home Office. I arrived in the UK in 2013 and my 10 years are going to complete in Aug 2023. Can I still apply for ILR based on 10 years lawful residence or my Covid-19 one year extension would not be considered in 10 years period?
If you were granted ANY temporary extension (i.e. The exceptional assurance concession) you should exclude this period from the 10 years (Discussion)
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Re: ILR long residence

Post by aine23 » Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:47 pm

I want to confirm if the Covid-19 start-up visa extension is also included in that? Because my extension application still followed the same process like the first Start-Up visa application. I had to show progress to my endorsement body, submitted the online application and attended the biometric appointment everything was the same. The guidelines notes doesn’t mention Covid-19 Start Up visa extension so I’m confused.

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Re: ILR long residence

Post by zimba » Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:56 pm

No. If you were given an extension under your route then it was not a temporary extension
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Re: ILR long residence

Post by aine23 » Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:33 pm

Thank you very much for further clarification. I appreciate your time and response. I was stressed about the situation.

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Re: ILR long residence

Post by aine23 » Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:56 am

Dear Admins!
I was given a Doctotal Extension Scheme (DES) visa after completing my PhD for the period of 12months. My BRP states Issue Date: 20/02/2020 Valid until: 20/01/2021 and made the application for DES on 14/01/2020. I have recently seen a case where applicant ILR on 10 years long residency has been rejected saying that any leave issued less than 12months period is a short term student leave and was added in the 10 years qualifying period.
Now my concern is that the issue date of my DES visa on BRP is from 20/02/2020 till 20/01/2021 which makes it 11months period however my University CAS clearly states end date from 20/01/2020 and further to this (we are sponsoring the student for the period of 12months). Moreover, I think the Home Offices calculated the 12 months validity on the basis of course date that’s why it was valid till 20/01/2021. Do you think the Home Office will still treat it as a short-term student visa although DES was a 12months visa for all people who completed their PhD studies. Kindly guide me- thank you

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Re: ILR long residence

Post by zimba » Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:33 pm

Student visa extensions should be ok as long as it is not about the English language visa (maybe ?? Discussion)
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Re: ILR long residence

Post by aine23 » Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:29 am

Hi Zimba! I hope so and I confirm that none of my extension was to study English language but I’m scared to apply especially in a recent case where the case worker decision on the short-term student visa was solely on the basis of issue and end date.

My Doctoral Extension Scheme Tier 4 visa application was made on 14/01/2020 before the CAS course End date (20/01/2020) and a DES visa was granted from 20/02/2020-20/01/2021 which apparently makes it a 11months visa based on issue and end date. Do you think they can count DES visa as a short-term visa? Another point is that on any short-term visa work is not allowed but my DES Tier 4 visa allowed full-time work.

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Re: ILR long residence

Post by zimba » Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:19 pm

No Tier 4 visa period is excluded
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Re: ILR long residence

Post by aine23 » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:03 am

Apologies!! I didn’t get it… kindly elaborate this for me

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Re: ILR long residence

Post by zimba » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:26 pm

aine23 wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:03 am
Apologies!! I didn’t get it… kindly elaborate this for me
Any period of Tier 4 visa issued (at least after 2015) will be counted for the purpose of the long residence :!:
The rules only excluded short-term English language visas
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Re: ILR long residence

Post by emwrites » Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:12 pm

zimba wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:26 pm
aine23 wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:03 am
Apologies!! I didn’t get it… kindly elaborate this for me
Any period of Tier 4 visa issued (at least after 2015) will be counted for the purpose of the long residence :!:
The rules only excluded short-term English language visas
Hi, Zimba. Can you please elaborate where the 2015 guidance is from? I have an application in with HO for Set(LR) and like many PhD students doing research, had to extend my Tier 4 to finish my degree. This was prior to 2015. I'm an international student from the US, so none of my time would pertain to Short-term Student (English Language).

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Re: ILR long residence

Post by zimba » Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:23 pm

emwrites wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:12 pm
zimba wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:26 pm
aine23 wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:03 am
Apologies!! I didn’t get it… kindly elaborate this for me
Any period of Tier 4 visa issued (at least after 2015) will be counted for the purpose of the long residence :!:
The rules only excluded short-term English language visas
Hi, Zimba. Can you please elaborate where the 2015 guidance is from? I have an application in with HO for Set(LR) and like many PhD students doing research, had to extend my Tier 4 to finish my degree. This was prior to 2015. I'm an international student from the US, so none of my time would pertain to Short-term Student (English Language).
Do NOT tag your question in each topic you find.
I already covered changes in 2015 in the following link but interpretations are not quite precise though: (Discussion)
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Re: ILR long residence

Post by emwrites » Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:36 pm

zimba wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:23 pm
emwrites wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:12 pm
zimba wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:26 pm
aine23 wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:03 am
Apologies!! I didn’t get it… kindly elaborate this for me
Any period of Tier 4 visa issued (at least after 2015) will be counted for the purpose of the long residence :!:
The rules only excluded short-term English language visas
Hi, Zimba. Can you please elaborate where the 2015 guidance is from? I have an application in with HO for Set(LR) and like many PhD students doing research, had to extend my Tier 4 to finish my degree. This was prior to 2015. I'm an international student from the US, so none of my time would pertain to Short-term Student (English Language).
Do NOT tag your question in each topic you find. I already covered what changed in 2015 in the following link but interpretations are not quite precise though: (Discussion)
I apologize. Thank you for clarifying.

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Re: ILR long residence

Post by aine23 » Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:06 am

Hi emwrites did you get any response from the Home Offices regarding your ILR yet?

Thank you Zimba for clarifying it a bit further.

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Re: ILR long residence

Post by aine23 » Fri Sep 15, 2023 8:08 am

Just an update- my Set LR application has been successful. Thank you so much admins for reassuring me and explaining rules. I was so worried because of the rules change in April 2023.

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