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Not anymore; ISD recently said only biometric page is needed to be signed.
With effect from the 20th April, 2023 all new applicants for a certificate of naturalisation are only required to provide a certified colour copy of the biometric page of their current passport. The colour copy of the biometric page can be certified by a Solicitor, Commissioner for Oaths, Peace Commissioner or Notary Public.
That's fine, there's a box to tick which says you're being identified by producing an ID.
vdc2000 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 1:25 pmHi,
I was referred to a solicitor here in Cork, and he handled all the passport copies - Copying and signing every page - as well signing my birth cert copy, passport photos and signing the form. He was really nice and charged me a capped fee for everything. Otherwise 10e per signature will cost me a kidney.
I don't know if that's a common practice for every solicitor
About the copies:
Yes, every single passport copy page needs to be signed by the solicitor.
I basically printed everything but not my passport and he done all the passport copies in his office.
I was told that some solicitors prefer to do that away.
Bring the copies with you just in case, they might just check to make sure matches with the original one.
Thank you so much for your comprehensive reply. I have the latest copy of the Form 8 and it is still stating all passport pages have to be copied so they really should update this. This stress Ive been under today has been palpable.meself2 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 1:28 pmCopies should be fine (doesn't matter who does them), but bring originals, so they can make sure they're a true copy of the original.Not anymore; ISD recently said only biometric page is needed to be signed.
https://www.irishimmigration.ie/further ... alisation/With effect from the 20th April, 2023 all new applicants for a certificate of naturalisation are only required to provide a certified colour copy of the biometric page of their current passport. The colour copy of the biometric page can be certified by a Solicitor, Commissioner for Oaths, Peace Commissioner or Notary Public.That's fine, there's a box to tick which says you're being identified by producing an ID.
Kay27 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 1:51 pmvdc2000 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 1:25 pmHi,
I was referred to a solicitor here in Cork, and he handled all the passport copies - Copying and signing every page - as well signing my birth cert copy, passport photos and signing the form. He was really nice and charged me a capped fee for everything. Otherwise 10e per signature will cost me a kidney.
I don't know if that's a common practice for every solicitor
About the copies:
Yes, every single passport copy page needs to be signed by the solicitor.
I basically printed everything but not my passport and he done all the passport copies in his office.
I was told that some solicitors prefer to do that away.
Bring the copies with you just in case, they might just check to make sure matches with the original one.
Thank you so much for your reply. I have spent hours scouring the internet for information, ringing support lines and no one answers. I was on the verge of just giving up as 10e per page for two passports was going to be extortionate. Would you mind messaging me the name of the person you dealt with in Cork and the amount you paid? I can get there easily enough by bus. I'm in the South East and can't find anyone that specialises in citizenship applications specifically where I am. I obviously need a solicitor that is up to date on all the legalities so I have a complete application.
I really can't believe the amount of stress this has all put on me. I thought the hardest part would be securing a copy of my birth cert from Australia and trying to prove who I am after not living there for decades, but I got that sorted and there has been so many bumps in the road since. I was literally at the end of my tether today so thank you so much for your reply.
For the copies, you, technically, shouldn't need to provide them at all (just biometrics), but I would suggest to enclose them anyway; they probably rely on digital system of tracking your absences now but as you've been here for a long time, they might not have all the records.Kay27 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 2:03 pmThank you so much for your comprehensive reply. I have the latest copy of the Form 8 and it is still stating all passport pages have to be copied so they really should update this. This stress Ive been under today has been palpable.meself2 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 1:28 pmCopies should be fine (doesn't matter who does them), but bring originals, so they can make sure they're a true copy of the original.Not anymore; ISD recently said only biometric page is needed to be signed.
https://www.irishimmigration.ie/further ... alisation/With effect from the 20th April, 2023 all new applicants for a certificate of naturalisation are only required to provide a certified colour copy of the biometric page of their current passport. The colour copy of the biometric page can be certified by a Solicitor, Commissioner for Oaths, Peace Commissioner or Notary Public.That's fine, there's a box to tick which says you're being identified by producing an ID.
Do I still provide copies of all other pages, but they do not need to be signed off on?
Do I also provide the photo ID page of my old cancelled passport and get that one signed?
If I just need two colour copies of pages certified that is fine and I won't need to consult an immigration solicitor. I can get my commissioner of Oaths to witness the declaration and show the two passport size photos.
I'm almost afraid to believe I'm almost done.
No need, especially assuming your 5 years are covered by your current passport.
That should suffice.
That should be it, yes. It states at the top that "We confirm that your tax affairs are in order" (at least on mine) and they can check it themselves with a number afaik.
How exactly did you print it? I went to https://www.irishimmigration.ie/natural ... alculator/ , it has a line for my name at the top that you should fill, which is present when you try to print it. Did you fill it out?
It shouldn't infuence anything, but you can tick both and list both sources, explaining the situation in a cover letter, so there's no ambiguity, especially since it'll probably be seen in your bank statements.
Should be it. You'd also have to stop by the bank for the 175 euro Banker's Draft, if you haven't already.
You don't have to have them sign your GNIB card - just a copy (not a certified cope) is enough. You can, of course, but if they'd be charging you per copy, you can skip it.
OK, great! I am not including bank statements to make up my points as I have my annual mortgage statements, employment detail summary and TV licence (for the past 4 years) as proof of residency.meself2 wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:17 pmIt shouldn't infuence anything, but you can tick both and list both sources, explaining the situation in a cover letter, so there's no ambiguity, especially since it'll probably be seen in your bank statements.Should be it. You'd also have to stop by the bank for the 175 euro Banker's Draft, if you haven't already.
You don't have to have them sign your GNIB card - just a copy (not a certified cope) is enough. You can, of course, but if they'd be charging you per copy, you can skip it.
Just to be sure you don't do an extra trip, do you also plan to make them sign the Stautory Declaration in Form 8 (page 34)? That's a crucial step as well.
Yes! Absolutely, thanks for the reminder. I'll be definitely taking that with me and getting it signed.
Up to you, but you're not getting those back. I would be safe and keep the originals, just because things could happen and application might even get lost in the post, for example, but that's just my point of view to be completely safe.
Here post2089975.html#p2089975 someone really put a lot of effort in making sure their application is extremely easy to read; unfortunately, we can never know whether that helped or not.
You can apply for citizenship on the basis of your last 9 years, where you need to get 5 years of residence out of those 9. If your current passport covers last 5 years (or more), it alone should be enough - they only require "current in-date passport" on Form 8.
Thanks again for such a great reply. You raise a very good point about sending the originals and yes, it would be best to send copies as things could get lost!meself2 wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 7:22 amUp to you, but you're not getting those back. I would be safe and keep the originals, just because things could happen and application might even get lost in the post, for example, but that's just my point of view to be completely safe.
Here post2089975.html#p2089975 someone really put a lot of effort in making sure their application is extremely easy to read; unfortunately, we can never know whether that helped or not.
You can apply for citizenship on the basis of your last 9 years, where you need to get 5 years of residence out of those 9. If your current passport covers last 5 years (or more), it alone should be enough - they only require "current in-date passport" on Form 8.
Side note: for 5.2 it states you have to provide "your Passport Number at the time of arrival in Ireland.", so hopefully that's what you put there.
You can send only biometric pages (signed, for proof of residence). If you wish to be safe, you can throw in copies of pages with permissions if it was stamped in your passport, just so they have record of your lawful residence wrt permissions - imo better to send a bit too much then to get asked for more data.
That should do it, yes.
I highly doubt they'll be diving that deep. Put your arrival date and passport number as it is, 2000 and whatever you had back then.