- FAQ
- Login
- Register
- Call Workpermit.com for a paid service +44 (0)344-991-9222
ESC
Welcome to immigrationboards.com!
Moderators: Casa, John, ChetanOjha, archigabe, CR001, push, JAJ, ca.funke, Amber, zimba, vinny, Obie, EUsmileWEallsmile, batleykhan, meself2, geriatrix
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ation-bail4.1 Definition of continuous lawful residence
Lawful residence is defined in paragraph 276A of the Immigration Rules as a period of continuous residence in which the applicant had one of the following:
•existing leave to enter or remain, except this cannot include time with entry clearance or permission under Appendix V: Visitor, Appendix Short-term Student (English language), or Appendix Temporary work – Seasonal Worker
•an exemption from immigration control, including where an exemption ceases to apply if it is immediately followed by a grant of leave to enter or remain
Lawful residence does not include time spent on immigration bail (including time spent with temporary admission and temporary release).
Hi Zimba,zimba wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 2:30 pmOnly if it was Short-term Student (English language) visa
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ation-bail4.1 Definition of continuous lawful residence
Lawful residence is defined in paragraph 276A of the Immigration Rules as a period of continuous residence in which the applicant had one of the following:
•existing leave to enter or remain, except this cannot include time with entry clearance or permission under Appendix V: Visitor, Appendix Short-term Student (English language), or Appendix Temporary work – Seasonal Worker
•an exemption from immigration control, including where an exemption ceases to apply if it is immediately followed by a grant of leave to enter or remain
Lawful residence does not include time spent on immigration bail (including time spent with temporary admission and temporary release).
Yes, exactly. It states 'Tier 4 general student visa'. I am aware that they changed the regulations in April, and I did my research on the Short Term Student Visa. I found that they are completely different. I have consulted solicitors, and they all believe that the caseworker made a mistake. They suggested that I can either raise an appeal or resubmit the application with an explanation.
You clearly stated that you were granted a short-term visa to study English, the rules very clearly exclude this period from the long residence period. Note that in 2013, all student visas (even short-term ones) to study English were granted under the Tier 4 route.Stella26 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 6:44 pmYes, exactly. It states 'Tier 4 general student visa'. I am aware that they changed the regulations in April, and I did my research on the Short Term Student Visa. I found that they are completely different. I have consulted solicitors, and they all believe that the caseworker made a mistake. They suggested that I can either raise an appeal or resubmit the application with an explanation.
I have already spent over 3000 pounds on the application, and I cannot afford to repay the application fee or the solicitor fee. I am not sure whether I can appeal by myself and how to do it (even though I still have to pay 100+ pounds for the appeal fee).
Thank you so much for the explanation.zimba wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 1:32 amYou clearly stated that you were granted a short-term visa to study English, the rules very clearly exclude this period from the long residence period. Note that in 2013, all student visas (even short-term ones) to study English were granted under the Tier 4 route.Stella26 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 6:44 pmYes, exactly. It states 'Tier 4 general student visa'. I am aware that they changed the regulations in April, and I did my research on the Short Term Student Visa. I found that they are completely different. I have consulted solicitors, and they all believe that the caseworker made a mistake. They suggested that I can either raise an appeal or resubmit the application with an explanation.
I have already spent over 3000 pounds on the application, and I cannot afford to repay the application fee or the solicitor fee. I am not sure whether I can appeal by myself and how to do it (even though I still have to pay 100+ pounds for the appeal fee).
Tier 4 does not exist anymore and the old Tier 4 route is now called Student visa. If you were granted short-term Tier 4 visa to study English, it will be treated as if you held Short-term Student (English language) visa now. Hence such period is excluded
Can you please continue your questions in your own topic rather than tag onto someone else's.aine23 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 3:52 amI’m in the same boat as I need to apply in September for ILR on the basis of 10 years long residency. I had a Doctoral Extension Scheme (DES) visa after finishing my PhD (issue date 20/02/2020-20/01/2021). I’m super stressed also due to all these new rules and how Home Office case workers are using them to refuse applications. Spending the whole 10 years legally on different visas/extensions in the UK is not easy.
Please, if anyone has recently obtained ILR (10 years long residency) come forward and share the outcome.
Hello, Zimba. I think this is incorrect. In 2013, I believe what is now called "Short-Term Student Visa" would have been referred to as "Student Visitor Visa". This was a separate category from the Tier 4 (General) Student. Based on the new rules, a short-term student visa is explicitly defined in relation to the new rules as a person who has, or had, permission under Appendix Short Term Student, or paragraph A57E of the rules in force before 1 December 2020. A57E(b) excludes such precessional courses as a condition of university studies:zimba wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 1:32 amYou clearly stated that you were granted a short-term visa to study English, the rules very clearly exclude this period from the long residence period. Note that in 2013, all student visas (even short-term ones) to study English were granted under the Tier 4 route.Stella26 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 6:44 pmYes, exactly. It states 'Tier 4 general student visa'. I am aware that they changed the regulations in April, and I did my research on the Short Term Student Visa. I found that they are completely different. I have consulted solicitors, and they all believe that the caseworker made a mistake. They suggested that I can either raise an appeal or resubmit the application with an explanation.
I have already spent over 3000 pounds on the application, and I cannot afford to repay the application fee or the solicitor fee. I am not sure whether I can appeal by myself and how to do it (even though I still have to pay 100+ pounds for the appeal fee).
Tier 4 does not exist anymore and the old Tier 4 route is now called Student visa. If you were granted short-term Tier 4 visa to study English, it will be treated as if you held Short-term Student (English language) visa now. Hence such period is excluded
If the foundational English language course was studied under a Tier 4 (General) student visa in 2013, I believe it should not be classified as "Short-term Student" according to the new rules.A57E. Applicants for entry clearance or leave to enter the UK as a short-term student
for up to and including 11 months must meet the requirements in A57C and all of the
following requirements:
(a) has been accepted on a course of study in English language of no more than 11
months which is to be provided by an accredited institution; and
(b) intends to leave the UK at the end of the study or at the end of 11 months
whichever is sooner; and
(c) holds a valid entry clearance as a short-term student for a period not exceeding
11 months.
The OP was granted 11 months to study English in 2013. This maps largely to the 'short-term student visa' route introduced under paragraphs A57A to A57H of the rules in 2015, according to Statement of Changes in Immigration Rules HC 1025, for the sole purpose of studying the English language in the UK.Leave to enter as a student visitor
56L. A person seeking leave to enter to the United Kingdom as a student visitor may be admitted for a period not
exceeding 6 months, subject to a condition prohibiting employment, and recourse to public funds, provided the
Immigration Officer is satisfied that each of the requirements of paragraph 56K is met
276A(b)(i)’s exceptions are confined to specific AppendicesIt is thus in the nature of the Immigration Rules that they include no over-arching implicit purposes. Their only purpose is to articulate the Secretary of State’s specific policies with regard to immigration control from time to time, as to which there are no presumptions, liberal or restrictive. The whole of their meaning is, so to speak, worn on their sleeve.
As it included references to Appendices, then the Interpretationexisting leave to enter or remain, except this cannot include time with entry clearance or permission under Appendix V: Visitor, Appendix Short-term Student (English language), or Appendix Temporary work – Seasonal Worker; or
applies.references to Appendices are to Appendices to those rules.
is the union of the sets of persons granted permission undermeans a person granted permission under paragraphs 40-56Z, 75A-M or 82-87 of the rules in force before 24 April 2015 or Appendix V on or after 24 April 2015 or Appendix V: Visitor after 9am on 1 December 2020.
Hi Stella26,Stella26 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:12 amHi everyone,Thanks for the reply. I have an update like to share:
I met 2 people from social media platforms with exactly the same situation, and they were granted an ILR with super priority service last week. They confirmed that they had a 2-month pre-sessional language course in July 2013, and after they completed their language course, they successfully continued their main course study.
One of them shared his cover letter template. He stated: 'In the past ten years, I have maintained a lawful residence in the UK since my initial entry on XX/XX/XXXX with a Tier 4 General Student Visa (See the stamp on page XX of my previous passport), which is not classified as a Short-Term Visa.'
And also, there are 2 cases with the same situation being refused. It really confused me. If it is a mistake, there are others who have been refused. How do they apply the new rules?
I have applied appeal. However, it will take 6 - 12 months. I will post the update once I have.
Changes to Part 7 (effective from 5th October 2023)Long residence
The definition of ‘lawful residence’ was changed in April 2023 to exclude time spent on immigration bail, as a visitor, short-term student or seasonal worker. Paragraph 276A(b) of the rules is being amended to clarify that this includes time spent on previous versions of these routes or temporary admission or release.
double down on retroactive exceptions, etc.7.1. For paragraph 276A(b), substitute:
“
- (b) “lawful residence” means residence which is continuous residence pursuant to:
- (i) existing leave to enter or remain, except this cannot include time with entry clearance or permission under Appendix V: Visitor, Appendix Short-term Student (English language), or Appendix Temporary work – Seasonal Worker, or any relevant predecessor routes; or
- (ii) an exemption from immigration control, including where an exemption ceases to apply if it is immediately followed by a grant of leave to enter or remain.
- (c) “lawful residence” does not include time spent on immigration bail, temporary admission, or temporary release.”.
inconsistent and untenable?(a) he has had at least 10 years continuous lawful residence in the United Kingdom.