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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by tugii20 » Wed Sep 13, 2023 3:50 pm

tugii20 wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:28 pm
nephente wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:24 pm
I got my payment processed mail yesterday. do you think I'd get an invitation for 2nd of October, or it's just high hopes?
if you applied 2021 or 2022 then high likely
Invited to 2nd of October Ceremony
The whole process from submission to Ceremony took 27 MONTH

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by HADI03 » Wed Sep 13, 2023 3:59 pm

I have just been involved too!!! I'm so happy now

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by HADI03 » Wed Sep 13, 2023 4:02 pm

I have been invited for the ceremony 2 October 1pm

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by RCCar » Wed Sep 13, 2023 4:14 pm

I hope my wife will be approved and invited too... we both waiting 28 months already

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by rajqo » Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:08 pm

meself2 wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2023 2:48 pm
Another batch of invitations sent today (I'm in it, thankfully)!

Don't forget to confirm your attendance if you got it.
how did you get it? was it by email? you applied in 2021 right?

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by meself2 » Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:28 pm

rajqo wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:08 pm
meself2 wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2023 2:48 pm
Another batch of invitations sent today (I'm in it, thankfully)!

Don't forget to confirm your attendance if you got it.
how did you get it? was it by email? you applied in 2021 right?
By email and yes, applied in '21.
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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by meself2 » Wed Sep 13, 2023 11:13 pm

@HappyDuck how did your certificate situation go?

I've heard about people who got an invitation for October ceremony instead of certificate; maybe monitor your mailbox? But that's just ridiculous (assuming that's true).
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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by HappyDuck » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:46 am

I still haven't received my certificate after attending the June 20th ceremony. My inbox is checked every other hour and I send emails to the department every other day. Yeah it's crazy!

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by RCCar » Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:05 am

Do they respond your mails?

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by HappyDuck » Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:07 am

I only got a response after reaching out for help from my local TD, who contacted the department on my behalf. Their response was 4 weeks ago, saying that my certificate is in the very final stages of processing and that it'll be with me "very soon".

Since then, I haven't gotten any responses.

I feel pretty demoralised, and had to cancel all October and November holidays, losing nearly 1200 euros in non-refundable flights and trains in the process.

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by meself2 » Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:23 am

Technically, if all fails, you could try to waddle to an event in a last ditch attempt to speak to a person (although it will probably be guarded), but I hope your cert will be with you before October.

I made some backup plans to ensue I can travel even without the cert, but you don't have that option since they take your TD away.- shame.
Technically they ask you to return it as you receive approval (see below), but that essentially leaves you without a document and ability to travel for undefined period of time.
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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by HappyDuck » Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:05 am

As in maybe I should consider going to the October 2nd ceremony in an attempt to try to talk to someone? I really hope it doesn't come to that, but I might end up mustering some courage to try it.

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by RCCar » Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:07 am

I think it will be useless, they are different department, they don't know anything about certificates

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by RCCar » Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:16 am

What with my wife? She applied with me July 2021, E-vetting disclosed July 2023, not approved yet
Does she have chances for this ceremony?
She mailed them about 5 times last month - no response. What you advise to do? 28 months already

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by meself2 » Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:54 am

RCCar wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:16 am
What with my wife? She applied with me July 2021, E-vetting disclosed July 2023, not approved yet
Does she have chances for this ceremony?
She mailed them about 5 times last month - no response. What you advise to do? 28 months already
The timelines are tight, but theoretically possible.
Ask through a TD maybe?

Also it's not unusual for spouses to differ in processing - see post2129227.html#p2129227
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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by newmember2023 » Sat Sep 16, 2023 12:30 pm

We (spouse and I) applied back in Jan 2022 and I got my invite for the Oct 2 ceremony. My wife's application has been approved and payment has been processed (1st week of sep) but she doesn't have the invite yet. Our progress was always together (Acknowledgement, e vetting, approval, payment etc..) except the invite. Quite strange and a bit worried.

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by johndonut » Sat Sep 16, 2023 12:57 pm

meself2 wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:54 am
RCCar wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:16 am
What with my wife? She applied with me July 2021, E-vetting disclosed July 2023, not approved yet
Does she have chances for this ceremony?
She mailed them about 5 times last month - no response. What you advise to do? 28 months already
The timelines are tight, but theoretically possible.
Ask through a TD maybe?

Also it's not unusual for spouses to differ in processing - see post2129227.html#p2129227
The circumstances of this discordant application timeline are unusual and known (sharing the specifics would not be general enough for a forum like this). This specific case would not be indicative of spousal applicants experiencing distinct trajectories as a common or expected outcome.

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by Vadrar » Sat Sep 16, 2023 2:54 pm

johndonut wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2023 12:57 pm
meself2 wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:54 am
RCCar wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:16 am
What with my wife? She applied with me July 2021, E-vetting disclosed July 2023, not approved yet
Does she have chances for this ceremony?
She mailed them about 5 times last month - no response. What you advise to do? 28 months already
The timelines are tight, but theoretically possible.
Ask through a TD maybe?

Also it's not unusual for spouses to differ in processing - see post2129227.html#p2129227
The circumstances of this discordant application timeline are unusual and known (sharing the specifics would not be general enough for a forum like this). This specific case would not be indicative of spousal applicants experiencing distinct trajectories as a common or expected outcome.
There’s not really such a thing as spousal applications for naturalisation - as in two people applying in conjunction. Similar processing times are coincidence - the applications have always been separated and processed by different officials.

But now they explicitly reject multiple applications for naturalisation, spouse or not, if arriving in one envelope. The guidelines are clear about this, and we’ve seen plural applications returned to sender for repackaging as entirely independent applications, each needing dedicated documentation.

FBR is the exception- that process does accept sibling applications as a joint application in one package.

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by johndonut » Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:24 pm

Vadrar wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2023 2:54 pm
johndonut wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2023 12:57 pm
meself2 wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:54 am
RCCar wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:16 am
What with my wife? She applied with me July 2021, E-vetting disclosed July 2023, not approved yet
Does she have chances for this ceremony?
She mailed them about 5 times last month - no response. What you advise to do? 28 months already
The timelines are tight, but theoretically possible.
Ask through a TD maybe?

Also it's not unusual for spouses to differ in processing - see post2129227.html#p2129227
The circumstances of this discordant application timeline are unusual and known (sharing the specifics would not be general enough for a forum like this). This specific case would not be indicative of spousal applicants experiencing distinct trajectories as a common or expected outcome.
There’s not really such a thing as spousal applications for naturalisation - as in two people applying in conjunction. Similar processing times are coincidence - the applications have always been separated and processed by different officials.

But now they explicitly reject multiple applications for naturalisation, spouse or not, if arriving in one envelope. The guidelines are clear about this, and we’ve seen plural applications returned to sender for repackaging as entirely independent applications, each needing dedicated documentation.

FBR is the exception- that process does accept sibling applications as a joint application in one package.
All that might be true, but the example you used was not a case as you described. They are independent applications, but all of the dates -at least as far as the E-vetting invitation - were identical. The discrepancy was about communication, not processing. You suggest that it this is just coincidence. Maybe it is. Doesn't matter to me. Regardless, it is not an example of what you intended to underline.

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by Vadrar » Sun Sep 17, 2023 6:17 pm

johndonut wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:24 pm
Vadrar wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2023 2:54 pm
johndonut wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2023 12:57 pm
meself2 wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:54 am
RCCar wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:16 am
What with my wife? She applied with me July 2021, E-vetting disclosed July 2023, not approved yet
Does she have chances for this ceremony?
She mailed them about 5 times last month - no response. What you advise to do? 28 months already
The timelines are tight, but theoretically possible.
Ask through a TD maybe?

Also it's not unusual for spouses to differ in processing - see post2129227.html#p2129227
The circumstances of this discordant application timeline are unusual and known (sharing the specifics would not be general enough for a forum like this). This specific case would not be indicative of spousal applicants experiencing distinct trajectories as a common or expected outcome.
There’s not really such a thing as spousal applications for naturalisation - as in two people applying in conjunction. Similar processing times are coincidence - the applications have always been separated and processed by different officials.

But now they explicitly reject multiple applications for naturalisation, spouse or not, if arriving in one envelope. The guidelines are clear about this, and we’ve seen plural applications returned to sender for repackaging as entirely independent applications, each needing dedicated documentation.

FBR is the exception- that process does accept sibling applications as a joint application in one package.
All that might be true, but the example you used was not a case as you described. They are independent applications, but all of the dates -at least as far as the E-vetting invitation - were identical. The discrepancy was about communication, not processing. You suggest that it this is just coincidence. Maybe it is. Doesn't matter to me. Regardless, it is not an example of what you intended to underline.
I didn’t underline anything or provide examples. I’ve no familiarity with your case at all and didn’t reference it. I simply quoted your thread to add my, independent, reply about the generality of plural applications.

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by johndonut » Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:49 pm

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What with my wife? She applied with me July 2021, E-vetting disclosed July 2023, not approved yet
Does she have chances for this ceremony?
She mailed them about 5 times last month - no response. What you advise to do? 28 months already
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The timelines are tight, but theoretically possible.
Ask through a TD maybe?

Also it's not unusual for spouses to differ in processing - see post2129227.html#p2129227
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The circumstances of this discordant application timeline are unusual and known (sharing the specifics would not be general enough for a forum like this). This specific case would not be indicative of spousal applicants experiencing distinct trajectories as a common or expected outcome.
[/quote]

There’s not really such a thing as spousal applications for naturalisation - as in two people applying in conjunction. Similar processing times are coincidence - the applications have always been separated and processed by different officials.

But now they explicitly reject multiple applications for naturalisation, spouse or not, if arriving in one envelope. The guidelines are clear about this, and we’ve seen plural applications returned to sender for repackaging as entirely independent applications, each needing dedicated documentation.

FBR is the exception- that process does accept sibling applications as a joint application in one package.
[/quote]

All that might be true, but the example you used was not a case as you described. They are independent applications, but all of the dates -at least as far as the E-vetting invitation - were identical. The discrepancy was about communication, not processing. You suggest that it this is just coincidence. Maybe it is. Doesn't matter to me. Regardless, it is not an example of what you intended to underline.
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I didn’t underline anything or provide examples. I’ve no familiarity with your case at all and didn’t reference it. I simply quoted your thread to add my, independent, reply about the generality of plural applications.
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Here's an alternative to continuing this as the point is to help people. If you applied at the same time with largely the same documentation, in some cases the resulting timeline is identical. If it deviates, it MIGHT indicate that something is wrong in terms of communication. In other words, people who have an identical residential history and applied at the same time MIGHT reasonably expect that their timelines match. If they don't, it MIGHT not be normal or expected. Advice that you should consider it normal MIGHT not be helpful and alternative approaches (e.g., email, letter from solicitor) MIGHT be time better spent. I can attest to the value of reaching out if the timelines separate for no clear reason (e.g., documentation is similar/identical). Communication proved useful.

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by rajqo » Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:52 pm

so tomorrow we have 2 weeks to october ceremony... are invites finished? didn't see anyone getting any invite for the last week or so.. I need to know if I should wait until very last minute and can get invited even 5 days before the event or there's like some minimum notice period? :? I paid 950 in july already so the next step is invitation to ceremony (so far still didn't get anything) and have flights out on 23rd so just need to know if they will still be inviting people even that last week starting 25.9. A bit ridiculous but what can we do.

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by meself2 » Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:44 pm

rajqo wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:52 pm
so tomorrow we have 2 weeks to october ceremony... are invites finished? didn't see anyone getting any invite for the last week or so.. I need to know if I should wait until very last minute and can get invited even 5 days before the event or there's like some minimum notice period? :? I paid 950 in july already so the next step is invitation to ceremony (so far still didn't get anything) and have flights out on 23rd so just need to know if they will still be inviting people even that last week starting 25.9. A bit ridiculous but what can we do.
There were invites on Wednesday this week.

Last ceremony had 2 weeks' cut off period - I would say you would know my mid/late next week, but I wouldn't be expecting any further invitations, unfortunately. I would be happy to be proven wrong though.
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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by sv23367 » Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:06 am

Last ceremony had 2 weeks' cut off period - I would say you would know my mid/late next week,
not sure what would be their full capacity. either they should have invited all the 2020(if any)/2021(all)/2022 (remaining) applicants or invited everyone who had already paid their citizenship fees irrespective of their time of application. as usual, justice dept continues to work on their own without transparency

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by Cloughlinvt » Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:33 pm

FYI I just got an invite for a 3pm ceremony on 2nd Oct. March 2023 applicant. Check your emails!! they have three ceremonies on the 2nd

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