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Expired Passport

Post by FXR_1340 » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:46 pm

Apologies if my question is in an inappropriate Section. Please move tp appropriate Section if required

Can a UK Citizen exit Miami USA then enter UK with a passport which is about to expire (4 weeks) or has already expired?

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Re: Expired Passport

Post by Casa » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:51 pm

FXR_1340 wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:46 pm
Apologies if my question is in an inappropriate Section. Please move tp appropriate Section if required

Can a UK Citizen exit Miami USA then enter UK with a passport which is about to expire (4 weeks) or has already expired?
Apart from any other ramifications, I very much doubt that the airline will allow a passenger to board the flight with an expired passport. :idea:
(Casa, not CR001)
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Re: Expired Passport

Post by FXR_1340 » Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:29 pm

Casa wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:51 pm
FXR_1340 wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:46 pm
Apologies if my question is in an inappropriate Section. Please move tp appropriate Section if required

Can a UK Citizen exit Miami USA then enter UK with a passport which is about to expire (4 weeks) or has already expired?
Apart from any other ramifications, I very much doubt that the airline will allow a passenger to board the flight with an expired passport. :idea:
Thank you.

I understand your point exactly.

Is an opinion available concerning exit and entry with a passport which has only a few weeks validity?

Thanks for your assistance. Appreciated.

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Re: Expired Passport

Post by alterhase58 » Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:44 pm

For UK entry requirement is you need a valid passport. Being a British citizen no problem even if you managed to get to the UK border with an expired British passport, you have right of abode anyway.
This is just my opinion as a member of this forum and does not constitute immigration advice.
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Re: Expired Passport

Post by lolo2 » Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:12 pm

If you're a British citizen, you can enter the UK even with an expired UK passport, as long as it's a direct flight or no need to do passport checks in another destination before arriving.

Airline staff can be annoying handling this situation but that's pure and simple negligence (or ignorance).

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Re: Expired Passport

Post by FXR_1340 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:13 am

alterhase58 wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:44 pm
For UK entry requirement is you need a valid passport. Being a British citizen no problem even if you managed to get to the UK border with an expired British passport, you have right of abode anyway.
Thank you.

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Re: Expired Passport

Post by FXR_1340 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:19 am

lolo2 wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:12 pm
If you're a British citizen, you can enter the UK even with an expired UK passport, as long as it's a direct flight or no need to do passport checks in another destination before arriving.

Airline staff can be annoying handling this situation but that's pure and simple negligence (or ignorance).
Thank you.

As CASA has already informed, the real issue with having an Expired or Short Validity Passport, is actually getting on to a flight?

Is there something I can read up on which would assist me in convincing airline staff at Miami? The flight will be direct into London then an onward domestic flight to Glasgow.

Thanks for your continuing assisstance.🙂

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Re: Expired Passport

Post by AmazonianX » Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:47 am

FXR_1340 wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:19 am
lolo2 wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:12 pm
If you're a British citizen, you can enter the UK even with an expired UK passport, as long as it's a direct flight or no need to do passport checks in another destination before arriving.

Airline staff can be annoying handling this situation but that's pure and simple negligence (or ignorance).
Thank you.

As CASA has already informed, the real issue with having an Expired or Short Validity Passport, is actually getting on to a flight?

Is there something I can read up on which would assist me in convincing airline staff at Miami? The flight will be direct into London then an onward domestic flight to Glasgow.

Thanks for your continuing assisstance.🙂
Understandably it is a direct flight however it is still a hit or miss; no assurance can be given that airline staff will allow boarding.
You may put a call to the airline to get a feeler of what's possible.

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Re: Expired Passport

Post by Ticktack » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:38 am

Not sure why you'd want to risk trying to fly with an expired passport, possibly losing your ticket money. The question isn't about your "citizenship", the question is about you not having a "valid" travel document.
FYI, your passport is valid until the last day on it. Country to country requirements might differ.

Same way you can't drive legally with an expired drivers licence. It's not that you suddenly stopped knowing how to drive. It's that you can be legally prosecuted for it.

The airlines have to protect themselves. They get fined and you just go your jolly way. They have to present advanced passenger info (API's), their system would probably flag it at that stage.

Go get an emergency travel document.
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Re: Expired Passport

Post by lolo2 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:05 am

FXR_1340 wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:19 am
Is there something I can read up on which would assist me in convincing airline staff at Miami? The flight will be direct into London then an onward domestic flight to Glasgow.
ICAO has specific instructions about that in their guidances - you can google it - airlines should follow that. The UK government also has provisions for that. There's no room for any penalties or fines for something that is legally established.

The 3 (or 6) months minimum passport validity for international travel does not apply to a passenger if they're travelling to their own country. Obviously you cannot travel to a third country with that passport.

Actually your document still has a few weeks before it expires. Again, the airline should not prevent you to board a flight back home.

If you encounter any problem at the airport, ask to speak with a manager or a more senior person.

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Re: Expired Passport

Post by FXR_1340 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:25 pm

lolo2 wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:05 am
FXR_1340 wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:19 am
Is there something I can read up on which would assist me in convincing airline staff at Miami? The flight will be direct into London then an onward domestic flight to Glasgow.
ICAO has specific instructions about that in their guidances - you can google it - airlines should follow that. The UK government also has provisions for that. There's no room for any penalties or fines for something that is legally established.

The 3 (or 6) months minimum passport validity for international travel does not apply to a passenger if they're travelling to their own country. Obviously you cannot travel to a third country with that passport.

Actually your document still has a few weeks before it expires. Again, the airline should not prevent you to board a flight back home.

If you encounter any problem at the airport, ask to speak with a manager or a more senior person.
Thank you. I had similar thoughts. I had read that travelling to the Home Country was possible with an almost expired passport.

Thanks to all for your thoughts and advice.

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