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Statusquo73
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Bringing non eu parents to Ireland (Irish citizen)

Post by Statusquo73 » Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:03 pm

Hi Everyone
I am planning to bring my parent to live with me in Ireland as they are getting old(they are both about to turn 60).
Is there anyone here brought their parents to live with them either permanently or temporary?
If yes, what kind of visa type did you use? What are the best steps to take? How long does it take to get approval?
I know that there is a visa type called "Dependent elderly relative" but I heard that the visa type should be renewed every year and it has some costs with health insurance etc.
I would really appreciate your advice
Thank you

P.S I am Irish citizen

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Re: Bringing non eu parents to Ireland (Irish citizen)

Post by Leo99 » Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:54 pm

You can bring her on stamp 0. An all covered health insurance is needed. Need to renew stamp yearly. You can Google stamp 0

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Re: Bringing non eu parents to Ireland (Irish citizen)

Post by Statusquo73 » Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:51 pm

Leo99 wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:54 pm
You can bring her on stamp 0. An all covered health insurance is needed. Need to renew stamp yearly. You can Google stamp 0
Thank you Leo, IS this process expensive? What is your opinion? Does worth to bring my parent?
Also 75K, is gross or net? That part is not very clear.
I and my wife we earn over 75K gross but net less than that.

Angel99
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Re: Bringing non eu parents to Ireland (Irish citizen)

Post by Angel99 » Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:02 pm

Hi,

Bringing your parents to Ireland solely depends on you. You alone know if you need them by your side and how important it is.

*Evidence in financial documents that the sponsor (son or daughter) and their spouse or partner are earning an income "after tax and deductions, of €60,000 for one parent and €75,000 for two parents" for the three years prior to the application*.

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Re: Bringing non eu parents to Ireland (Irish citizen)

Post by Harley06 » Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:19 pm

What do you mean 3 year prior to application? Like son or daughter of the applicant should earn 60/75K per year after deductions and taxes 3 years prior to application?

And also, is life insurance expensive? Would life insurance cover the existing health problems since they are elderly people most likely would have some health issues?

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Re: Bringing non eu parents to Ireland (Irish citizen)

Post by Angel99 » Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:31 am

Harley06 wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:19 pm
What do you mean 3 year prior to application? Like son or daughter of the applicant should earn 60/75K per year after deductions and taxes 3 years prior to application?

And also, is life insurance expensive? Would life insurance cover the existing health problems since they are elderly people most likely would have some health issues?

Income after tax and deductions of 60/75k within 3 year period. Not per year. It can be spread out.


Private medical insurance with *full cover* in private hospitals

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Re: Bringing non eu parents to Ireland (Irish citizen)

Post by Omi00007 » Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:16 am

Angel99 wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:31 am
Harley06 wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:19 pm
What do you mean 3 year prior to application? Like son or daughter of the applicant should earn 60/75K per year after deductions and taxes 3 years prior to application?

And also, is life insurance expensive? Would life insurance cover the existing health problems since they are elderly people most likely would have some health issues?

Income after tax and deductions of 60/75k within 3 year period. Not per year. It can be spread out.


Private medical insurance with *full cover* in private hospitals
That's incorrect based on the "Family Reunification Policy Document" chaperter 18.4:

18.4 Given the level of risk, which cannot be fully mitigated by undertakings
of financial support by family members, the financial thresholds for
earnings to support an elderly dependent relative must be high enough
to meet the foreseeable expense. Therefore a sponsor of an elderly
dependent relative will be required to have earned in Ireland each of
the 3 years preceding the application an income after tax and
deductions of not less than €60K in the case of one parent and €75k
where 2 parents are involved.
Where the elderly dependent relative
has a guaranteed income into the future this can be used to partially
offset the financial limits (bearing in mind however that a person with a
sufficient personal income for their needs cannot reasonably be
regarded as financially dependent).



Link to policy document: https://www.irishimmigration.ie/wp-cont ... cation.pdf

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Re: Bringing non eu parents to Ireland (Irish citizen)

Post by Angel99 » Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:35 am

Omi00007 wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:16 am
Angel99 wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:31 am
Harley06 wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:19 pm
What do you mean 3 year prior to application? Like son or daughter of the applicant should earn 60/75K per year after deductions and taxes 3 years prior to application?

And also, is life insurance expensive? Would life insurance cover the existing health problems since they are elderly people most likely would have some health issues?

Income after tax and deductions of 60/75k within 3 year period. Not per year. It can be spread out.


Private medical insurance with *full cover* in private hospitals
That's incorrect based on the "Family Reunification Policy Document" chaperter 18.4:

18.4 Given the level of risk, which cannot be fully mitigated by undertakings
of financial support by family members, the financial thresholds for
earnings to support an elderly dependent relative must be high enough
to meet the foreseeable expense. Therefore a sponsor of an elderly
dependent relative will be required to have earned in Ireland each of
the 3 years preceding the application an income after tax and
deductions of not less than €60K in the case of one parent and €75k
where 2 parents are involved.
Where the elderly dependent relative
has a guaranteed income into the future this can be used to partially
offset the financial limits (bearing in mind however that a person with a
sufficient personal income for their needs cannot reasonably be
regarded as financially dependent).



Link to policy document: https://www.irishimmigration.ie/wp-cont ... cation.pdf
It looks like you dont even understand what you posted. Reread what i copy pasted from the immigration website and how i simplified it.

What you wrote is exactly what i posted



Evidence in financial documents that the sponsor (son or daughter) and their spouse or partner are earning an income "after tax and deductions, of €60,000 for one parent and €75,000 for two parents" *for the three years prior to the application*.


What you sent
*each of the 3 years preceding the application an income after tax and
deductions of not less than €60K in the case of one parent and €75k
where 2 parents are involved*

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Re: Bringing non eu parents to Ireland (Irish citizen)

Post by Angel99 » Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:41 am

To my understanding you have to earn that amount in 3 years prior to the application. Within 3 years, meaning it shouldn't be less than 3 years when submitting.
Such amount can be spread out in the 3 years.

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Re: Bringing non eu parents to Ireland (Irish citizen)

Post by Statusquo73 » Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:53 am

That is very confusing in my opinion.
I believe also it should be spread in 3 years if it is after tax and after all deductions.
Not many people earn that amount after tax

I am scared that they are pushing people to make mistakes with this confusions so visas will be refused.
If visa is refused then it will be precedent for the next case.

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Re: Bringing non eu parents to Ireland (Irish citizen)

Post by shpirtshqipe » Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:13 am

According to the below source it is after tax income PER YEAR.
If you are married both incomes are considered
I am not sure what exactly constitutes “full private health insurance” but typically €80-€100 per month per parent is considered a decent cover.

You should also be absolutely certain you can prove beyond reasonable doubt your parents are dependent on you. If not you run the risk of refusal (I would assume bringing parents over as an Irish citizen may be more difficult as opposed to EU via freedom of movement which you can’t access)

Judging by your questions here I would suggest that you consult with an immigration layer before you consider any other move

Link to source:
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/m ... upbringing.

All the best

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Re: Bringing non eu parents to Ireland (Irish citizen)

Post by Angel99 » Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:04 am

shpirtshqipe wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:13 am
According to the below source it is after tax income PER YEAR.
If you are married both incomes are considered
I am not sure what exactly constitutes “full private health insurance” but typically €80-€100 per month per parent is considered a decent cover.

You should also be absolutely certain you can prove beyond reasonable doubt your parents are dependent on you. If not you run the risk of refusal (I would assume bringing parents over as an Irish citizen may be more difficult as opposed to EU via freedom of movement which you can’t access)

Judging by your questions here I would suggest that you consult with an immigration layer before you consider any other move

Link to source:
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/m ... upbringing.

All the best

You can read about the other requirements for elderly dependent relatives on the ISD website.

*This money must have been earned for three years or more consecutively before the application is made.*

Best OP contacts the embassy or ISD for clarification.

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