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Fiance meeting requirement question

Post by LornaSuzie » Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:40 pm

Hi Everyone
Will be grateful if you can advise when should we have last met if my partner applies as fiance?
Within the last 6 months of submitting application ok?

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Re: Fiance meeting requirement question

Post by AmazonianX » Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:26 am

LornaSuzie wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:40 pm
Hi Everyone
Will be grateful if you can advise when should we have last met if my partner applies as fiance?
Within the last 6 months of submitting application ok?
There is no stated time for last meeting.

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Fiance Question

Post by LornaSuzie » Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:02 pm

Hi Guys be grateful if you can pls advise

My fiance is a pakistani national with a work permit for Saudi

Does he need to have a certain period of time left on the saudi work permit when he applies for his uk fiance visa? He will apply from saudi

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Re: Fiance Question

Post by Ticktack » Tue Nov 28, 2023 2:02 pm

LornaSuzie wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:02 pm
Hi Guys be grateful if you can pls advise

My fiance is a pakistani national with a work permit for Saudi

Does he need to have a certain period of time left on the saudi work permit when he applies for his uk fiance visa? He will apply from saudi
Nope, no mandated time. It would be nice for him to still be legally resident when applying though.
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Re: Fiance Question

Post by LornaSuzie » Tue Nov 28, 2023 2:03 pm

Thanks so much yes he'll have time left on it

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Payslips/Statements Fiance

Post by LornaSuzie » Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:54 pm

Hi All
Do I I need 6 months minimum payslips/ statements to apply for fiance visa?

Can it be done on less?

Ive been employed since Jan 2022 however became full time 1st Dec

Worried about new income threshold kicking in spring as my current salary is adequate but 6 months means applying in May 2024 and not sure what income would be required?

Would be most grateful

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Re: Payslips/Statements Fiance

Post by AmazonianX » Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:44 am

LornaSuzie wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:54 pm
Hi All
Do I I need 6 months minimum payslips/ statements to apply for fiance visa?

Can it be done on less? No, it is an important requirement on that route.

Ive been employed since Jan 2022 however became full time 1st Dec Is it from December that you income meets current requirement?

Worried about new income threshold kicking in spring as my current salary is adequate but 6 months means applying in May 2024 and not sure what income would be required? Situation still unfolding and seems it will be kicking in Sept. 2024 and for Skilled Worker Visa take note.

Would be most grateful

Thankyou

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Re: Payslips/Statements Fiance

Post by AmazonianX » Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:54 am

AmazonianX wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:44 am
LornaSuzie wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:54 pm
Hi All
Do I I need 6 months minimum payslips/ statements to apply for fiance visa?

Can it be done on less? No, it is an important requirement on that route.

Ive been employed since Jan 2022 however became full time 1st Dec Is it from December that you income meets current requirement?

Worried about new income threshold kicking in spring as my current salary is adequate but 6 months means applying in May 2024 and not sure what income would be required? Situation still unfolding and seems it will be kicking in Sept. 2024 and for Skilled Worker Visa take note.

Would be most grateful

Thankyou
Spring 2024, still unfolding Situation.

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Re: Payslips/Statements Fiance

Post by LornaSuzie » Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:58 am

Hi lovely
Im so grateful you replied

Yes Dec 1st Im earning £22,468 salaried so from this month

Im a British National, so what will effect me?

Do you think we've got the chance to apply in may/june still under current threshold rules?

What if the new threshold kicks in whilst my fiance has applied? Will he be safe? And will his spouse visa application then fall under current threshold £18k or new threshold apply?

Please help so worried

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Paye & self employment

Post by LornaSuzie » Tue Dec 05, 2023 1:48 pm

Hi
How many months of self employment is acceptable for fiance visa? 6 months enough?

Im salaried to £22,468 & earning £17,000 both gross from self employment - meets new threshold

Please advise if it will work and what documents do I need from hmrc?
& do i need accountants certificate at all?

Many thanks

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Re: Payslips/Statements Fiance

Post by AmazonianX » Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:18 pm

LornaSuzie wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:58 am
Hi lovely
Im so grateful you replied

Yes Dec 1st Im earning £22,468 salaried so from this month Before now were you getting up to £1,550/month?

Im a British National, so what will effect me? Being British does not confer any advantage in any way or form.

Do you think we've got the chance to apply in may/june still under current threshold rules? When an actual date of implementation is known that's what will determine what financial requirement will apply vis-a-vis your date of application.

What if the new threshold kicks in whilst my fiance has applied? Will he be safe? Yes And will his spouse visa application then fall under current threshold £18k or new threshold apply? Current threshold of 18,600 will apply as it is the date of application that counts.

Please help so worried

God bless

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Re: Paye & self employment

Post by LornaSuzie » Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:42 pm

Hi Lovely
You're so kind thankyou so much

No I wasnt getting £1550 a month prior, £829 per month from Jan 2023

Im going to have to start my eyelash & beauty self employment additional £17000 coming from self employment

Will 6 months of that combined with my salary be enough to prove?

I will have hmrc proof of regustration
And accountants certificate
Statements showing money paid in

Anything else self employment wise please tell me?
6 months be OK or do they need a 12 months document from hmrc?

God bless you hunny

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Re: Paye & self employment

Post by asingh42 » Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:32 pm

LornaSuzie wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:42 pm
Hi Lovely
You're so kind thankyou so much

No I wasnt getting £1550 a month prior, £829 per month from Jan 2023

Im going to have to start my eyelash & beauty self employment additional £17000 coming from self employment

Will 6 months of that combined with my salary be enough to prove?

I will have hmrc proof of regustration
And accountants certificate
Statements showing money paid in

Anything else self employment wise please tell me?
6 months be OK or do they need a 12 months document from hmrc?

God bless you hunny
If using the self employment income, you need to provide HO a tax return submitted to HMRC. You will require SA302, Tax overview and a letter from a chartered accountant stating the nature of your self employment and confirm your income. On the same tax return your employment income is also disclosed.

If you only starting your self employment now then you will have to submit a tax return by 05/04/24 which will have income from the start of your self employment to 05/04/24. You will not be able to use self employment earnings without a tax return.

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Re: Paye & self employment

Post by LornaSuzie » Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:42 pm

Thankyou so much for guiding Asingh :D

I would like to start my self employment in May 2024 or earliest April 2024 as we are not applying for the fiance visa until November 2024

So for April/May 2024 starters when will the next tax return be due please?

So a tax return doesnt need to be 12 months long?

Also the SA302 does it need to be for a specific length of time?

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Re: Paye & self employment

Post by asingh42 » Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:12 pm

LornaSuzie wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:42 pm
Thankyou so much for guiding Asingh :D

I would like to start my self employment in May 2024 or earliest April 2024 as we are not applying for the fiance visa until November 2024

So for April/May 2024 starters when will the next tax return be due please?

So a tax return doesnt need to be 12 months long?

Also the SA302 does it need to be for a specific length of time?
In the UK tax return runs from 6th April to 5th April, so the current tax year that is yet to end is between 06/04/2023 to 05/04/2024. If you were to start your self employment in May 2024 then the tax return your accounts will fall under is tax year ending 05/04/2025.

Hence you will have to wait until 05/04/2025 to file your tax return. SA302 is the official name given to tax computation provided by your accountant or HMRC.

Please also be advised that government has plans to put the income threshold to £38,700. This is expected to begin from March 2024, if this is accepted under immigration rule then you would have to meet the new requirement of £38,700.

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Re: Paye & self employment

Post by LornaSuzie » Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:32 pm

Hi yes thats fine
So final point is will HO accept 6 months worth of self employment on a tax return?

That will only have 6 months worth of returns on ie £22,468 Paye remaining £17,000 due according to new threshold via self employment to be proven

Meaning does tax return have to show full £17,000 for 1 year or is it sufficient that it reflects £8500 as self employment only commenced 6 months prior to tax return?

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Re: Paye & self employment

Post by CR001 » Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:40 pm

LornaSuzie wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:32 pm
Hi yes thats fine
So final point is will HO accept 6 months worth of self employment on a tax return?

That will only have 6 months worth of returns on ie £22,468 Paye remaining £17,000 due according to new threshold via self employment to be proven

Meaning does tax return have to show full £17,000 for 1 year or is it sufficient that it reflects £8500 as self employment only commenced 6 months prior to tax return?
Appendix 1.7 details clearly what is required. You need a financial year to rely on self employment. See page 55 onwards.

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Re: Paye & self employment

Post by LornaSuzie » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:18 pm

Excellent you're the best lovely

So I'll go April 24-April 25 Leave no stone unturned

£22,468 salaried gross via paye = Net £1608 monthly take home

£17,000 self employed gross = Net £1300 monthly take home

Please check for me this combined will meet new threshold of £38,700?

Thankyou again Im so grateful for your help

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Re: Paye & self employment

Post by LornaSuzie » Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:59 am

PS I will be a sole trader - I dont need unaudited accounts aswell for HO do I?

Annual self assessment tax return (SA100)
Statement of Account (SA302)
Evidence of Unique Tax Reference (UTR) – usually found within SA302
Personal bank statements covering the same 12-month period as the tax return showing that income from self employment has been received
Accountant's Certificate

This above enough? Please clarify about unaudited accounts & do I need business bank account aswell?

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Self Employment Accounts

Post by LornaSuzie » Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:27 am

Hi all - for proof of self employment for fiance visa do I have to have a business bank account or can I just use a personal account which I use for my business?
Will have SA302
1 yrs unaudited accounts
& accountants certificate

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Is self employed income cat F GROSS or NET

Post by LornaSuzie » Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:46 pm

Hi
Combining my salary & cat F self employment does the self employment amount required need to be GROSS or NET?

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Re: Is self employed income cat F GROSS or NET

Post by Frontier Mole » Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:53 pm

It is based on your net profit - the total income figure you declare to HMRC

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Re: Is self employed income cat F GROSS or NET

Post by LornaSuzie » Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:54 pm

Right thanks so it will have to currently be £18,600 NET?

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Re: Is self employed income cat F GROSS or NET

Post by Frontier Mole » Sun Jan 07, 2024 3:27 pm

Yes - net profit before tax of £18,600

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Re: Is self employed income cat F GROSS or NET

Post by LornaSuzie » Sun Jan 07, 2024 3:37 pm

Im confused now as accountants wise net profit is after deducting expenses & tax

Before expenses & tax is gross

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