New salary threshold of £38,700

[THO]

......Personally, I think 18.6K is far too little to be able to bring someone to live with you. Time and again I read on this forum that people who have never met are getting married after meeting just once, and then he/she is allowed to arrive into the UK. Worse is the number of cases of divorce of these people, who then remarry someone else they have not met, and bring them in, the previous partner is allowed to remain. In case no one had noticed the UK is an island, with a massive housing shortage and a population increasing by 100sK per year, and it can't go on. 300K houses needed to be built per year, excludes schools, hospitals, prisons, roads and other infrastructure to support this increase in population.

You all might think it's unfair, but how else does the govt tackle this situation? If it carries on unchecked, there will be a point in the future when the country is actually full, and then what? Or does everyone want to simply kick the ball into the long grass and hope that things work out for the best.

So why not treat the Cause and not the Symptoms?

How do we treat the cause and not the symptoms? I'm very keen to hear your answer. Build more houses, and pave over green belt? That is a ticket to disaster.

Keep in mind, that the population must stop growing, if not now sometime in the future, the huge annual increases in population in year on year is not good for the UK.

[zakikhan]

Appreciate there will be discussions and nothing is set in stone, but am I right in saying that the financial threshold does not apply for naturalisation applications? My wife already has ILR.

Kind regards

There is NO such requirement for citizenship!!

Thought so, but with the winds of change in full swing, I better get naturalisation done quick!

Thank you

[FXR_1340]

......Personally, I think 18.6K is far too little to be able to bring someone to live with you. Time and again I read on this forum that people who have never met are getting married after meeting just once, and then he/she is allowed to arrive into the UK. Worse is the number of cases of divorce of these people, who then remarry someone else they have not met, and bring them in, the previous partner is allowed to remain. In case no one had noticed the UK is an island, with a massive housing shortage and a population increasing by 100sK per year, and it can't go on. 300K houses needed to be built per year, excludes schools, hospitals, prisons, roads and other infrastructure to support this increase in population.

You all might think it's unfair, but how else does the govt tackle this situation? If it carries on unchecked, there will be a point in the future when the country is actually full, and then what? Or does everyone want to simply kick the ball into the long grass and hope that things work out for the best.

So why not treat the Cause and not the Symptoms?

How do we treat the cause and not the symptoms? I'm very keen to hear your answer. Build more houses, and pave over green belt? That is a ticket to disaster.

Keep in mind, that the population must stop growing, if not now sometime in the future, the huge annual increases in population in year on year is not good for the UK.

In the Case in Point, why not begin by having more consideration of UK Citizens?

The current UK Govt is "not good for the UK"!

With regards addressing the Cause, does UK Govt actually know? UK Govt is a mess! It is blundering from one chicken-Up to another. This is just the latest effort to "protect our borders". The Govt is a joke. Yet again it panders to its odious Right Wing, just as it did with Brexit.

Dont forget, much of these issues stem from the 18thC and 19thC when it Plundered and Raped much of the world.

I would urge you, if not already done, to take a closer
look at the Visa process and who does and who doesnt need a Visa to enter UK. As I said the UK Govt is a joke!

[THO]

......Personally, I think 18.6K is far too little to be able to bring someone to live with you. Time and again I read on this forum that people who have never met are getting married after meeting just once, and then he/she is allowed to arrive into the UK. Worse is the number of cases of divorce of these people, who then remarry someone else they have not met, and bring them in, the previous partner is allowed to remain. In case no one had noticed the UK is an island, with a massive housing shortage and a population increasing by 100sK per year, and it can't go on. 300K houses needed to be built per year, excludes schools, hospitals, prisons, roads and other infrastructure to support this increase in population.

You all might think it's unfair, but how else does the govt tackle this situation? If it carries on unchecked, there will be a point in the future when the country is actually full, and then what? Or does everyone want to simply kick the ball into the long grass and hope that things work out for the best.

So why not treat the Cause and not the Symptoms?

How do we treat the cause and not the symptoms? I'm very keen to hear your answer. Build more houses, and pave over green belt? That is a ticket to disaster.

Keep in mind, that the population must stop growing, if not now sometime in the future, the huge annual increases in population in year on year is not good for the UK.

In the Case in Point, why not begin by having more consideration of UK Citizens?

The current UK Govt is "not good for the UK"!

With regards addressing the Cause, does UK Govt actually know? UK Govt is a mess! It is blundering from one chicken-Up to another. This is just the latest effort to "protect our borders". The Govt is a joke. Yet again it panders to its odious Right Wing, just as it did with Brexit.

Dont forget, much of these issues stem from the 18thC and 19thC when it Plundered and Raped much of the world.

I would urge you, if not already done, to take a closer
look at the Visa process and who does and who doesn't need a Visa to enter UK. As I said the UK Govt is a joke!

Your reply is ridiculous, it has nothing to do with the UK govt, it has to do with trying to reduce net migration to manageable levels. How do they do it?

You did not answer your statement, as there is no answer, other than find ways to allow less people in. I.e. make it harder for them to obtain a visa. You might think it's heartless, but there is no way on earth there is the building capacity to achieve 300K homes in a year, so what gives, where do all the people live? Where would all the homes go. Right near me 800 new homes and a school and shops are being built on green belt, as we argue.

You believe what any opposition party tells you because it is the easy option. Easy to take pot shots at the incumbent. BTW, Labour has not come out against these plans, and as I understand will back them. So, so much for heartless Conservatives.

As for the 18th and 19th century, that of course was many decades ago, you can't possibly expect the UK to pay for their past actions forever, they were different times in history when many countries were out to rule others, and it's really not at all relevant now.

[HSBilling]

......Personally, I think 18.6K is far too little to be able to bring someone to live with you. Time and again I read on this forum that people who have never met are getting married after meeting just once, and then he/she is allowed to arrive into the UK. Worse is the number of cases of divorce of these people, who then remarry someone else they have not met, and bring them in, the previous partner is allowed to remain. In case no one had noticed the UK is an island, with a massive housing shortage and a population increasing by 100sK per year, and it can't go on. 300K houses needed to be built per year, excludes schools, hospitals, prisons, roads and other infrastructure to support this increase in population.

You all might think it's unfair, but how else does the govt tackle this situation? If it carries on unchecked, there will be a point in the future when the country is actually full, and then what? Or does everyone want to simply kick the ball into the long grass and hope that things work out for the best.

So why not treat the Cause and not the Symptoms?

How do we treat the cause and not the symptoms? I'm very keen to hear your answer. Build more houses, and pave over green belt? That is a ticket to disaster.

Keep in mind, that the population must stop growing, if not now sometime in the future, the huge annual increases in population in year on year is not good for the UK.

In the Case in Point, why not begin by having more consideration of UK Citizens?

The current UK Govt is "not good for the UK"!

With regards addressing the Cause, does UK Govt actually know? UK Govt is a mess! It is blundering from one chicken-Up to another. This is just the latest effort to "protect our borders". The Govt is a joke. Yet again it panders to its odious Right Wing, just as it did with Brexit.

Dont forget, much of these issues stem from the 18thC and 19thC when it Plundered and Raped much of the world.

I would urge you, if not already done, to take a closer
look at the Visa process and who does and who doesn't need a Visa to enter UK. As I said the UK Govt is a joke!

Your reply is ridiculous, it has nothing to do with the UK govt, it has to do with trying to reduce net migration to manageable levels. How do they do it?

You did not answer your statement, as there is no answer, other than find ways to allow less people in. I.e. make it harder for them to obtain a visa. You might think it's heartless, but there is no way on earth there is the building capacity to achieve 300K homes in a year, so what gives, where do all the people live? Where would all the homes go. Right near me 800 new homes and a school and shops are being built on green belt, as we argue.

You believe what any opposition party tells you because it is the easy option. Easy to take pot shots at the incumbent. BTW, Labour has not come out against these plans, and as I understand will back them. So, so much for heartless Conservatives.

As for the 18th and 19th century, that of course was many decades ago, you can't possibly expect the UK to pay for their past actions forever, they were different times in history when many countries were out to rule others, and it's really not at all relevant now.

And you sir have no understanding that the global elite is the source of the problems, currently there are 5,025 novel patents that advance technology for the betterment of mankind, the government is the public face of the deep state, why can't you all leave your offices for the day and come to the massive non compliance movement!

[HSBilling]

Overcrowding would not be a problem with the release of the proper technologies, it doesn't matter where you live on the planet, you can live happily, remove the deep state and all will live in the utopian society that they wish without the useless dross that binds people that is money. Protest people protest, stop being cowards!

[Sketchate]

From independent website: spokesperson of PM's saying "it's not retrospective but it will effect by the time of renewal" we can say that it will effect all spouse visa extensions FLR and ILR..
Am I right in my understanding?
Please help..

[AmazonianX]

Appreciate there will be discussions and nothing is set in stone, but am I right in saying that the financial threshold does not apply for naturalisation applications? It does not My wife already has ILR.

Kind regards

[Macromam]

My wifes visa was due to renewal or ILR was to be applied on November 2024…..

What does this mean for her now? Will she need to leave as i only earn around 22k a year…

[xarth]

Hello,

Is the proposed minimum income being applied exclusively to the British side of a marriage or is it a combined income? On the gov website, it is currently shown to be a combined income, but reports that I've seen suggest that it is the minimum income is for the British person, "The minimum requirement for British citizens to bring..."

Regarding comments on space for new homes, in densely populated countries, people live in blocks of flats. You can fit maybe 80 families or more on the same ground area that perhaps 15 - 20 would occupy in single family homes spread out individually, each with a driveway and garden.

[marsupilami]

Regarding comments on space for new homes, in densely populated countries, people live in blocks of flats. You can fit maybe 80 families or more on the same ground area that perhaps 15 - 20 would occupy in single family homes spread out individually, each with a driveway and garden.

In the UK, the housing problem originate from the sheer inequality of land distribution rather than inherent lack of space: half of UK territory belong to the 1% upper-aristocracy while the other 99% of population else is crammed in the remaining 50% of land, many of which are unavailable for building (you wouldn't build a house in the middle of a railtrack...)

[Russ4744]

Hi guys
When Spouse Visa come to extend who must show evidence of £38700 ? the one that is settled in the UK, the one that is applying to extend the Visa or both must earn together that amount? My wife need to extend Spouse Visa in September 2025. Thanks

[nitram1000]

This latest Policy is clearly having huge impact........
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-67630258

What a cruel, insular, Right Wing Fascist govt the UK now suffers. A Plague on ALL their houses!!

I'm in the same boat, NHS Nurse trying to bring my Ecuadorian wife who is a Doctor to the UK. At this point I honestly feel the UK doesn't even deserve us. I have Australian Permanent residency so may just start the process for my wife to join me there. This country is absolutely disgusting.

[nitram1000]

Fun fact in the UK we use almost the same amount of land for rich peoples golf courses as we do for housing.

[AmazonianX]

Hi guys
When Spouse Visa come to extend who must show evidence of £38700 ? the one that is settled in the UK, the one that is applying to extend the Visa or both must earn together that amount? My wife need to extend Spouse Visa in September 2025. Thanks

Nothing is clear yet. If based on before, both incomes can be used.

[Ticktack]

Hi guys
When Spouse Visa come to extend who must show evidence of £38700 ? the one that is settled in the UK, the one that is applying to extend the Visa or both must earn together that amount? My wife need to extend Spouse Visa in September 2025. Thanks

The amount might change, but the rules aren't changing.

If bringing your spouse/dependant to the UK, you (Sponsor) needs to show whatever the requested amount is.
If extending, you can use a combined UK income from yourself and your spouse. Either or both.

[Nellyb1979]

My wifes visa was due to renewal or ILR was to be applied on November 2024…..

What does this mean for her now? Will she need to leave as i only earn around 22k a year…

Does your wife work aswell? if so does she earn £17k. no one knows for certain but it is being suggested you can combine incomes.

A long time between now & then and alot can happen in between, it has been suggested that the salary increase is to high and possibly could be challenged in court, so that is some hope.

at the moment it is a waiting game for us all until the full requirements are confirmed, and then see if some reasoning can be brought to it (legal challenges). fingers crossed for us all

[Y123m]

A thing to add here, is if they will allow applicants to purely apply on savings?

[THO]

Hello,

Is the proposed minimum income being applied exclusively to the British side of a marriage or is it a combined income? On the gov website, it is currently shown to be a combined income, but reports that I've seen suggest that it is the minimum income is for the British person, "The minimum requirement for British citizens to bring..."

Regarding comments on space for new homes, in densely populated countries, people live in blocks of flats. You can fit maybe 80 families or more on the same ground area that perhaps 15 - 20 would occupy in single family homes spread out individually, each with a driveway and garden.

Why should people in the UK live in blocks of flats, just so we can accommodate more people, and live cheek by jowl? Another ridiculous answer.

[THO]

Overcrowding would not be a problem with the release of the proper technologies, it doesn't matter where you live on the planet, you can live happily, remove the deep state and all will live in the utopian society that they wish without the useless dross that binds people that is money. Protest people protest, stop being cowards!

????? Bonkers gibberish.

[Casa]

Hello,

Is the proposed minimum income being applied exclusively to the British side of a marriage or is it a combined income? On the gov website, it is currently shown to be a combined income, but reports that I've seen suggest that it is the minimum income is for the British person, "The minimum requirement for British citizens to bring..."

Regarding comments on space for new homes, in densely populated countries, people live in blocks of flats. You can fit maybe 80 families or more on the same ground area that perhaps 15 - 20 would occupy in single family homes spread out individually, each with a driveway and garden.

Why should people in the UK live in blocks of flats, just so we can accommodate more people, and live cheek by jowl? Another ridiculous answer.

@THO I believe you were successful in your visa application for your wife to settle in the UK. Would you feel comfortable with the income hike, if you were in the same position as others are facing now?

[THO]

Maybe we should remove the visa requirement all together then Casa, let everyone in? No one has come up with a fair solution, because someone will always be outside and they will claim not fair.

My only ever issues with the visa system is the fact that it is far easier for some cultures to bring a person they have never met, or only on the day they marry, when others have to jump through a million fiery hoops to prove the validity of their relationship. Their divorce takes seconds, and then they can marry again and bring someone else.

A lot of the people bringing their new spouse here have no barriers to going and joining them in their country, since they will already speak the language, likely have relatives there and in a lot of cases, have only been in the UK for a relatively short period of time themselves.

[FXR_1340]

......Personally, I think 18.6K is far too little to be able to bring someone to live with you. Time and again I read on this forum that people who have never met are getting married after meeting just once, and then he/she is allowed to arrive into the UK. Worse is the number of cases of divorce of these people, who then remarry someone else they have not met, and bring them in, the previous partner is allowed to remain. In case no one had noticed the UK is an island, with a massive housing shortage and a population increasing by 100sK per year, and it can't go on. 300K houses needed to be built per year, excludes schools, hospitals, prisons, roads and other infrastructure to support this increase in population.

You all might think it's unfair, but how else does the govt tackle this situation? If it carries on unchecked, there will be a point in the future when the country is actually full, and then what? Or does everyone want to simply kick the ball into the long grass and hope that things work out for the best.

So why not treat the Cause and not the Symptoms?

How do we treat the cause and not the symptoms? I'm very keen to hear your answer. Build more houses, and pave over green belt? That is a ticket to disaster.

Keep in mind, that the population must stop growing, if not now sometime in the future, the huge annual increases in population in year on year is not good for the UK.

In the Case in Point, why not begin by having more consideration of UK Citizens?

The current UK Govt is "not good for the UK"!

With regards addressing the Cause, does UK Govt actually know? UK Govt is a mess! It is blundering from one chicken-Up to another. This is just the latest effort to "protect our borders". The Govt is a joke. Yet again it panders to its odious Right Wing, just as it did with Brexit.

Dont forget, much of these issues stem from the 18thC and 19thC when it Plundered and Raped much of the world.

I would urge you, if not already done, to take a closer
look at the Visa process and who does and who doesn't need a Visa to enter UK. As I said the UK Govt is a joke!

Your reply is ridiculous, it has nothing to do with the UK govt, it has to do with trying to reduce net migration to manageable levels. How do they do it?

You did not answer your statement, as there is no answer, other than find ways to allow less people in. I.e. make it harder for them to obtain a visa. You might think it's heartless, but there is no way on earth there is the building capacity to achieve 300K homes in a year, so what gives, where do all the people live? Where would all the homes go. Right near me 800 new homes and a school and shops are being built on green belt, as we argue.

You believe what any opposition party tells you because it is the easy option. Easy to take pot shots at the incumbent. BTW, Labour has not come out against these plans, and as I understand will back them. So, so much for heartless Conservatives.

As for the 18th and 19th century, that of course was many decades ago, you can't possibly expect the UK to pay for their past actions forever, they were different times in history when many countries were out to rule others, and it's really not at all relevant now.

Sir, in response I would say, if this is the issue, (couples not having met), govt can STOP those who have not met from obtaining a Visa by simply making it known it is not acceptable?

However, you have already stated "it has nothing to do with Govt" (what utter nonsense!). Please restate the point you feel I did not answer. As for "Labour has not come out against these plans", you are correct. However, does this not say more about Labour than the issue at hand?

"You believe what any opposition party tells you because it is the easy option." , have you not just stated that the Opposition Party has said nothing?

"As for the 18th and 19th century, that of course was many decades ago, you can't possibly expect the UK to pay for their past actions forever", isnt this the new way? Apologising for all terrible things a country was involved in, in its past? I am not saying for one second this is the correct approach, but there you go!

Perhaps a bit of study into 18th and 19th C is required on your part?

On that point, and the fact you say it has nothing to do with it or has any relevance,, this too is rubbish due to that fact many peoples of the World became Entitled to a UK Passport?

Finally, Sir, I find some of your responses on this thread, at very best, to be borderline dearly beloved. Enjoy your stay in MY place of birth!

[FXR_1340]

......Personally, I think 18.6K is far too little to be able to bring someone to live with you. Time and again I read on this forum that people who have never met are getting married after meeting just once, and then he/she is allowed to arrive into the UK. Worse is the number of cases of divorce of these people, who then remarry someone else they have not met, and bring them in, the previous partner is allowed to remain. In case no one had noticed the UK is an island, with a massive housing shortage and a population increasing by 100sK per year, and it can't go on. 300K houses needed to be built per year, excludes schools, hospitals, prisons, roads and other infrastructure to support this increase in population.

You all might think it's unfair, but how else does the govt tackle this situation? If it carries on unchecked, there will be a point in the future when the country is actually full, and then what? Or does everyone want to simply kick the ball into the long grass and hope that things work out for the best.

So why not treat the Cause and not the Symptoms?

How do we treat the cause and not the symptoms? I'm very keen to hear your answer. Build more houses, and pave over green belt? That is a ticket to disaster.

Keep in mind, that the population must stop growing, if not now sometime in the future, the huge annual increases in population in year on year is not good for the UK.

In the Case in Point, why not begin by having more consideration of UK Citizens?

The current UK Govt is "not good for the UK"!

With regards addressing the Cause, does UK Govt actually know? UK Govt is a mess! It is blundering from one chicken-Up to another. This is just the latest effort to "protect our borders". The Govt is a joke. Yet again it panders to its odious Right Wing, just as it did with Brexit.

Dont forget, much of these issues stem from the 18thC and 19thC when it Plundered and Raped much of the world.

I would urge you, if not already done, to take a closer
look at the Visa process and who does and who doesn't need a Visa to enter UK. As I said the UK Govt is a joke!

Your reply is ridiculous, it has nothing to do with the UK govt, it has to do with trying to reduce net migration to manageable levels. How do they do it?

You did not answer your statement, as there is no answer, other than find ways to allow less people in. I.e. make it harder for them to obtain a visa. You might think it's heartless, but there is no way on earth there is the building capacity to achieve 300K homes in a year, so what gives, where do all the people live? Where would all the homes go. Right near me 800 new homes and a school and shops are being built on green belt, as we argue.

You believe what any opposition party tells you because it is the easy option. Easy to take pot shots at the incumbent. BTW, Labour has not come out against these plans, and as I understand will back them. So, so much for heartless Conservatives.

As for the 18th and 19th century, that of course was many decades ago, you can't possibly expect the UK to pay for their past actions forever, they were different times in history when many countries were out to rule others, and it's really not at all relevant now.

Sir, in response I would say, if this is the issue, (couples not having met), govt can STOP those who have not met from obtaining a Visa by simply making it known it is not acceptable?

However, you have already stated "it has nothing to do with Govt" (what utter nonsense!). Please restate the point you feel I did not answer. As for "Labour has not come out against these plans", you are correct. However, does this not say more about Labour than the issue at hand?

"You believe what any opposition party tells you because it is the easy option." , have you not just stated that the Opposition Party has said nothing?

"As for the 18th and 19th century, that of course was many decades ago, you can't possibly expect the UK to pay for their past actions forever", isnt this the new way? Apologising for all terrible things a country was involved in, in its past? I am not saying for one second this is the correct approach, but there you go!

Perhaps a bit of study into 18th and 19th C is required on your part?

On that point, and the fact you say it has nothing to do with it or has any relevance,, this too is rubbish due to that fact many peoples of the World became Entitled to a UK Passport?

Finally, Sir, I find some of your responses on this thread, at very best, to be borderline dearly beloved. Enjoy your stay in MY place of birth!

It would appear this site does not permit the word which discribes someone who my perhaps exhibit discriminations and/or prejudice. The word is not "dearly beloved" but does in fact begin with the letters RAC with 3 more to follow.

[sohail111]

Someone said it hasnt changed in 10 years
However if you add 3% (24k) or even 6% inflation that will only take it to 31k
In order to earn the requirement it will be 187% more than min wage.. so thats 21.50 an hour. very unlikely in today or even previous economic climates

Does this rule apply to those extending spouse applications or applying for ILR?