FXR_1340 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:41 pm
I am truely astonished at some of your responses!
I have been told I am full of surprises
Joking aside, I think it is over-simplistic to imagine that all migrants think the same or that they have the same approach to the issue(s) of migration. I understand from some of your previous posts (and I could well be wrong) that you are located in the US. If so, you would be aware that Cuban Latino/a/x voters behave differently from, say, Mexican Latino/a/x voters, in spite of the fact that both are Latino/a/x and migrants. Not all migrants work, think or behave in the same manner. There are cultural and other differences within that broad category.
FXR_1340 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:41 pm
Firstly, if UK requires "working age" immigrants, I doubt very much if there will be many who will meet the £38.7k income threshold. This being the case, this Govt is surely Shooting itself in the Foot? Thus provision to increase tax income is seriously diluted? Perhaps you are focusing too much on the FICTICIOUS Retired Couple I exampled?
I specifically addressed the "FICTICIOUS Retired Couple" to highlight the irrelevance and secondary nature of that argument. With regards to the government shooting itself in the foot, I am
in agreement with you on that point and I fully expect the requirement to be watered down.
FXR_1340 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:41 pm
I do agree with your point "...I suspect that appealing to them is not on the government's list...." however, I would extend your point and suggest this Govt is ONLY wanting to placate the Right Wing of the Party. However, that point is not for this forum. Your final paragraph mention the relatively small list of retirees. However, as mentioned previously in this thread, this group tend to vote Tory? Again, Shooting itself in the foot comes to mind as the day is coming when this ghastly Govt will need every vote it can get!
I'm not sure if you are keeping in touch with the news on this side of the Pond, but most of western Europe is moving rightwards, from the rise of Geert Wilders in the Netherlands to the rise of the AfD in Germany to the Meloni government in Italy.
I would point out that it is not just the right-wing of the Conservative Party, but the opposition Labour Party that have said that they will support the government if there is a vote on these increases.
The mood music of most of Western Europe, not just the UK, with regards to immigration, is moving rightwards.
With regards to retirees voting Tory, I would point out that the number of retirees that would be affected (because they have foreign spouses) would be minuscule and they would have likely voted Labour anyway.
FXR_1340 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:41 pm
With regards the number of hours and jobs you worked I would say 2 things. Firstly good for you. Well done. However I cant help but feel we are in a more enlightened age where, as govt has stated, frequently, Work-Life Balance is so important?
Thank you for the compliment.
I would suggest that when one is starting a new life in a new culture and place and conforming to the immigration requirements, work-life balance can go by the wayside. Any Asian mother would tell you that you can relax when you are on your deathbed. Till then, it is hard work all the way. There is a reason that Asian economies are overtaking European ones.
I am not a lawyer or immigration advisor. My statements/comments do not constitute legal advice. E&OE. Please do not PM me for advice.