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Hello,contorted_svy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:00 pmIt seems to me they are confirming you are eligible to apply, but the application to register has a cost, which is what you have been asked to pay. Could you specify the reasons why you don't think you should pay the fee?
The fee to register under 4l is of 80 GBPcontorted_svy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:20 pmThe fact that section 4L applies to you doesn't mean that you should pay the fee that was due in the 80s.
Hello,alterhase58 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:30 pmThe guidance for ARD (https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... n-form-ard) states on the face of the website "Send the form and payment slip (including the fee) and your documents".
ARD is a new one to me - where did it state the fee is only £80 (the current ceremony fee)? Did you make enquiries what the fee should be? Not saying you are wrong or they are right.
I note this paragraph from the guidance:
"If, however, you would have qualified for registration or naturalisation but for legislative unfairness, an act or omission of a public authority or exceptional circumstances, you will still need to pay an application fee to register under this route, as well as a ceremony fee. Fees are listed on our fees page."
It should be noted that application fees over the past 20 years have been heavily loaded with a profit element to subsidise the Home Office.
That is for 4i not 4L.Simplyboombastic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:43 pmThe fee to register under 4l is of 80 GBPcontorted_svy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:20 pmThe fact that section 4L applies to you doesn't mean that you should pay the fee that was due in the 80s.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... fees-table
Thanks. I just saw where I have to pay the full fee which is truly a bummer. Especially that it was completely their fault for not registering me.CR001 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:00 pmThat is for 4i not 4L.Simplyboombastic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:43 pmThe fee to register under 4l is of 80 GBPcontorted_svy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:20 pmThe fact that section 4L applies to you doesn't mean that you should pay the fee that was due in the 80s.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... fees-table
Hello,alterhase58 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:47 pmYour children born before naturalisation will not automatically be British citizens.
Being born in the UK doesn't confer citizenship, unless born to a British citizen or a UK resident (with ILR/Settled Status).
What is childrens' UK immigration status? Are you resident in the UK?
On the face of it they would need to be registered on form MN1, if they are minors.
I think you will need to apply for their registration according to their circumstances because you weren't British when they were born (and sadly pay more fees).Simplyboombastic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:12 pmThanks. I just saw where I have to pay the full fee which is truly a bummer. Especially that it was completely their fault for not registering me.CR001 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:00 pmThat is for 4i not 4L.Simplyboombastic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:43 pmThe fee to register under 4l is of 80 GBPcontorted_svy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:20 pmThe fact that section 4L applies to you doesn't mean that you should pay the fee that was due in the 80s.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... fees-table
Quick question, I have two kids, one born in the UK and the other one born in the US. Do they have to go through the same thing ? What about the one born in UK, after getting the certificate can I apply directly for his passport ?
Thanks everyone
Hello,secret.simon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 10:41 amAcquisition of British nationality at any time after birth is never automatic, but would only be via either registration or naturalisation. Any form of acquisition of British nationality is always only prospective (from the date of registration or naturalisation certificate) and never retrospective. And yes, you'd need to pay the relevant current fees for any relevant registration or naturalisation application.
How old are the children?
The UK born child would be entitled to be registered as a British citizen on Form MN1 if (a) you get your registration certificate and you apply for them before their 18th birthday, but after you get your registration certificate, or (b) at any time in their life if they have lived in the UK for the first 10 years of their lives, with absences of no more than 90 days in each of those first ten years. The UK-born child would not need to be resident in the UK at the time of the registration application if either conditions (a) or (b) are met.
The US born child could apply to register as a British citizen at discretion, on the same form (MN1). They could be expected to meet residence and visa requirements in the UK.
Both children would be British citizens otherwise than by descent if so registered and would be able to automatically pass on their British citizenship to one generation born outside the UK.
PS: Which of your grandparents is UK-born?