PEACE MAKER wrote:Mr. FM
I have red your comments and saw you smiling on others. Don't you think British Government is also responsible for this, DIUS is maintaining a register for colleges approved by them and students are allowed and encouraged to get admissions in those colleges. students come to this country they pay big amounts in terms of fees and other charges their parents bear their living expenses, even some of the students work here for 20 hours.
Inspite of their hard work when they pass that qualification, home office turns that qualification in to a piece of paper by calling that college bogus, and allow people like you to laugh on them.
I don't know what is the process of DIUS to get an institute registered with them and why after shutting down an institute they don't accept their negligence and why they are not being penalized.
Don't you think that British Government should impose a ban on all colleges that they can not offer admission to international students and only universities should be allowed. But I know it is not possible because this is a big source of money for this country.
At the end i will request everyone not to pay to buy any degree but do work hard to achieve it. This give you a sense of achievement which lives with you till death.
I did a post on this very query - can't find it - might be part of the sin binned post from Desi.
It comes down to a number of points
DIUS - read what it says about its own register - no guarantee of quality or competence. Why is that? To many educational establishments, not enough staff to visit them all and little in the way of enforcement action even when they find problems.
Split the two parts of the bogus equation. Bogus college and bogus qualification.
A bogus college has no intention of supplying teaching at any level. Students enrol, in the main, knowing it is or was a route to the UK to work and gain financially. Students are allowed to work, so can legally earn money. Many employers especially in the low paid sectors are / were happy to employ "students" to fill their vacancies. The employers were complicate with the students and happily even gave them full time contracts.
A bogus qualification is fraud, committed by the educational establishment and the student. BOTH knowingly enter into the fraud. The college takes the money and the student gets a bit of paper. There is no study or course work. It is a straight financial transaction designed solely to deceive. What the "student" does with the bit of paper is yet another fraud. They hold it out as being a true document for their own gain. In the case of PSW applicants - to gain two years in the UK where they are allowed to work full time - every hour their God sends them. It is a ticket to earn, nothing more.
Some bogus colleges issued bogus qualifications - this is where the ultimate abuse happens. In the case of CCL the college operators were so greedy that they issued hundreds of fake qualifications and operated a bogus college where all but a handful of students actually studied.
So who is who in this set of circumstances?
You might notice the total lack of genuine students posting the horror story of being caught up in the middle of this scam and losing out. That speaks volumes in itself.
You see lots of students worried about their future and the lack of a PSW visa. Some even state they have paid for the fake qualification on other forums. These are the people that knew what they were doing and planned to use the fake qualification for their own gain.
The UK Government - UK plc gets about £16 billion a year out of international students. So it is not a small amount of money the UK can readily turn away. The vast majority of international students are here to gain real qualifications from real educational establishments. UK plc does not want to become known for bogus education as it devalues the high regard our higher education has in the world market place.
The educational registers - a grand body of bodies. Mostly without any meaningful powers. They attend or review educational establishments and grant accreditation. One of two were truly awful - send us the cheque we will send the accreditation. So there was wide spread abuse. This has lead to the current position where only DIUS is the accepted register. For international students this will be overtaken by the tier 4 PBS licence that will be required from next year.
A Dickens history of international student education and the UKBA
UKBA Past – not the total good guys by any means. Not enough resources, a total disregard for anything other than failed asylum seekers, a general acceptance there was too many bogus educational establishments but little being done to combat it, disjointed data collection and like any good affairs the bride was always the last one to know when the good guys turned out to be bad guys.
UKBA Now – getting better but room for improvement. Introduction of PBS has highlighted the issues we always knew were there. This time the resources and the will are in place to tackle the problem. The problem has turned out to be even bigger than we thought. Years of poor system policing have taken their toll; there are hundreds of bogus educational establishments. The new data collection shows them up like lighthouses shining on a clear night. Hence we have a few notable closures in quick succession. Other abuses are now showing through and the educational foundations in the UK are starting to creak. There are abuse trends across a far greater slice of the “traditionalâ€