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Corw
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Confirmation on Citizenship documents Application Please

Post by Corw » Thu Jul 11, 2024 10:45 am

Hi
I am about to apply for irish citizenship based on a 5 years residence in state .I am non Eu
The documents I have are..
I Passport data page
2 Birth Certificate
3diclartion form
4 Type A Employment detail summery
1.Year July 2019 -2020
2.Year July 2020 -2021
Year July 2021-2022
Year July 2022-2023
Tax amendment certificate for 2024
Type B- Joint Utility Bills from 2019 to 2024
Can anyone confirm it please did I count the years correctly, Am I attaching correct documents?
Thank you for your time .

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Re: Confirmation on Citizenship documents Application Please

Post by User20123 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:26 pm

I will try and help you here as much as i can. The list of mandatory documents which is sent were:

MANDATORY DOCUMENTS

Original of my current passport and any expired passport valid during your periods of residence in the State, and copy of bio page of each passport

Copy of my current IRP card

Bank draft made payable to the Secretary General, Department of Justice in the amount of €175

Bank statements for all accounts for at least 3 of the last 6 months

P60s/ P45s/Employment Detail Summary in respect of all employments in Ireland from xxxx to date

Up to date letter from my employer confirming the details of my employment- when I started, what my role is, what my salary is etc. on headed paper
Copy of my contract of employment
At least 6 recent payslips
3 different proofs of address (e.g. a utility bill, bank statement, revenue letter etc) for each year- xxxx-xxxx
Up to date tax clearance certificate, see https://www.irishimmigration.ie/etax-clearance/
Completed naturalisation residency calculator, available here http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/inis/pages/na ... calculator

Certified copy of birth certificate

Make sure to check the dates in residency calculator again to make sure you have met the requirement.

Corw
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Re: Confirmation on Citizenship documents Application Please

Post by Corw » Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:41 pm

User20123 wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:26 pm
I will try and help you here as much as i can. The list of mandatory documents which is sent were:

MANDATORY DOCUMENTS

Original of my current passport and any expired passport valid during your periods of residence in the State, and copy of bio page of each passport

Copy of my current IRP card

Bank draft made payable to the Secretary General, Department of Justice in the amount of €175

Bank statements for all accounts for at least 3 of the last 6 months

P60s/ P45s/Employment Detail Summary in respect of all employments in Ireland from xxxx to date

Up to date letter from my employer confirming the details of my employment- when I started, what my role is, what my salary is etc. on headed paper
Copy of my contract of employment
At least 6 recent payslips
3 different proofs of address (e.g. a utility bill, bank statement, revenue letter etc) for each year- xxxx-xxxx
Up to date tax clearance certificate, see https://www.irishimmigration.ie/etax-clearance/
Completed naturalisation residency calculator, available here http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/inis/pages/na ... calculator

Certified copy of birth certificate

Make sure to check the dates in residency calculator again to make sure you have met the requirement.

Hi
i am applying citizenship application online and i even cant see pay slips and copy of contract of employment over there

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Re: Confirmation on Citizenship documents Application Please

Post by Vadrar » Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:19 pm

Corw wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:41 pm
User20123 wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:26 pm
I will try and help you here as much as i can. The list of mandatory documents which is sent were:

MANDATORY DOCUMENTS

Original of my current passport and any expired passport valid during your periods of residence in the State, and copy of bio page of each passport

Copy of my current IRP card

Bank draft made payable to the Secretary General, Department of Justice in the amount of €175

Bank statements for all accounts for at least 3 of the last 6 months

P60s/ P45s/Employment Detail Summary in respect of all employments in Ireland from xxxx to date

Up to date letter from my employer confirming the details of my employment- when I started, what my role is, what my salary is etc. on headed paper
Copy of my contract of employment
At least 6 recent payslips
3 different proofs of address (e.g. a utility bill, bank statement, revenue letter etc) for each year- xxxx-xxxx
Up to date tax clearance certificate, see https://www.irishimmigration.ie/etax-clearance/
Completed naturalisation residency calculator, available here http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/inis/pages/na ... calculator

Certified copy of birth certificate

Make sure to check the dates in residency calculator again to make sure you have met the requirement.

Hi
i am applying citizenship application online and i even cant see pay slips and copy of contract of employment over there
That list of User20123 is very outdated. You need to follow the list generated for you in the online application. You’re given a link to a document on the first page from memory - you need to follow that.

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Re: Confirmation on Citizenship documents Application Please

Post by Vadrar » Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:22 pm

As long as your documents match the list provided in the document linked in your online application you’ll be fine. If you’ve not been out of the country more than 70 days in any 365 period you need documents for each year back to 2019. So what you’ve listed looks about right.

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Re: Confirmation on Citizenship documents Application Please

Post by Corw » Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:43 pm

Vadrar wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:22 pm
As long as your documents match the list provided in the document linked in your online application you’ll be fine. If you’ve not been out of the country more than 70 days in any 365 period you need documents for each year back to 2019. So what you’ve listed looks about right.

Thank you so much Vadrar for your kind reply . i was so confuse on documents .
i have got one more question regarding reckonable residency period in the state
In order for me to apply for irish reckonable residency is the date of the first stamp counted from the stamp provided on the date when department of justice grant the permission letter, or from the stamp provided from Immigration/Gardai.so wondering which would be considered the start of reckonable residence.
I am spouse of British national and beneficiary of withdrawal agreement.
Thank you

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Re: Confirmation on Citizenship documents Application Please

Post by Vadrar » Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:36 pm

Corw wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:43 pm
Vadrar wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:22 pm
As long as your documents match the list provided in the document linked in your online application you’ll be fine. If you’ve not been out of the country more than 70 days in any 365 period you need documents for each year back to 2019. So what you’ve listed looks about right.

Thank you so much Vadrar for your kind reply . i was so confuse on documents .
i have got one more question regarding reckonable residency period in the state
In order for me to apply for irish reckonable residency is the date of the first stamp counted from the stamp provided on the date when department of justice grant the permission letter, or from the stamp provided from Immigration/Gardai.so wondering which would be considered the start of reckonable residence.
I am spouse of British national and beneficiary of withdrawal agreement.
Thank you
The advice from Citizen's Information is that it is counted from date from grant on permission letter:

Registration with immigration is usually the evidence of legal residence which meets the residency requirements for naturalisation. You can count the time when your immigration permission was automatically extended during COVID-19 as reckonable if you had reckonable residence immediately before the first extension. For example, if you had a Stamp 4 in March 2020, your Stamp 4 permission was automatically extended until 31 May 2022. This period counts as reckonable residence. You must also prove that you were actually resident in Ireland during this time (see ‘scorecard system’ in the section ‘Documentation’ below). Source: https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/m ... Stamp%203)

However, there are quite a few reports of spouses of Irish and British being granted reckonable residency based on time from stamp given at the airport. So it will depend on how certain you want to be of your approval. If there isn't much time between your airport stamp and permission letter I'd probably go with the conservative choice of permission letter. If it is quite a long time (because of appointment delays etc and you can prove this with documents), you could chance it (because they'll likely let you know within about 4 months of submission if they aren't going to accept your airport stamp - it isn't a multi-year wait to hear anymore), and if they reject it, just apply again when you've got reckonable residency from time of letter (assuming the €175 application fee isn't make or break for you.)

Corw
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Re: Confirmation on Citizenship documents Application Please

Post by Corw » Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:26 pm

Vadrar wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:36 pm
Corw wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:43 pm
Vadrar wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:22 pm
As long as your documents match the list provided in the document linked in your online application you’ll be fine. If you’ve not been out of the country more than 70 days in any 365 period you need documents for each year back to 2019. So what you’ve listed looks about right.

Thank you so much Vadrar for your kind reply . i was so confuse on documents .
i have got one more question regarding reckonable residency period in the state
In order for me to apply for irish reckonable residency is the date of the first stamp counted from the stamp provided on the date when department of justice grant the permission letter, or from the stamp provided from Immigration/Gardai.so wondering which would be considered the start of reckonable residence.
I am spouse of British national and beneficiary of withdrawal agreement.
Thank you
The advice from Citizen's Information is that it is counted from date from grant on permission letter:

Registration with immigration is usually the evidence of legal residence which meets the residency requirements for naturalisation. You can count the time when your immigration permission was automatically extended during COVID-19 as reckonable if you had reckonable residence immediately before the first extension. For example, if you had a Stamp 4 in March 2020, your Stamp 4 permission was automatically extended until 31 May 2022. This period counts as reckonable residence. You must also prove that you were actually resident in Ireland during this time (see ‘scorecard system’ in the section ‘Documentation’ below). Source: https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/m ... Stamp%203)

However, there are quite a few reports of spouses of Irish and British being granted reckonable residency based on time from stamp given at the airport. So it will depend on how certain you want to be of your approval. If there isn't much time between your airport stamp and permission letter I'd probably go with the conservative choice of permission letter. If it is quite a long time (because of appointment delays etc and you can prove this with documents), you could chance it (because they'll likely let you know within about 4 months of submission if they aren't going to accept your airport stamp - it isn't a multi-year wait to hear anymore), and if they reject it, just apply again when you've got reckonable residency from time of letter (assuming the €175 application fee isn't make or break for you.)
Thank you so much for your response and sharing the Citizen Information link i really appreciate
But i couldn't find where Citizen Information link stating it is counted from the date from grant on permission letter ....

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Re: Confirmation on Citizenship documents Application Please

Post by Vadrar » Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:46 pm

its at the bottom of the Calculating Reckonable Residence section

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Re: Confirmation on Citizenship documents Application Please

Post by Corw » Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:54 pm

Vadrar wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:46 pm
its at the bottom of the Calculating Reckonable Residence section
I am sorry i still couldn't find where they stating that is counted from the date from grant permission letter .
any screenshot please ?

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Re: Confirmation on Citizenship documents Application Please

Post by Vadrar » Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:09 pm

Corw wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:54 pm
Vadrar wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:46 pm
its at the bottom of the Calculating Reckonable Residence section
I am sorry i still couldn't find where they stating that is counted from the date from grant permission letter .
any screenshot please ?
Have you done a Cmd + F search on the page for 'Calculating Reckonable Residence' to find the section? You could even do a search for the first sentence of the quote I've provided. Or if you can't do a digital search, then you'll need to read the page in full to find the section, the end of the section and the quote. A screenshot is simply going to show you the paragraph I've quoted above.
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Re: Confirmation on Citizenship documents Application Please

Post by kupuser » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:32 pm

Hi,

I have a question relevant to the above topic.

To prove the residency do we have to upload copies of pages showing the stamps on the passports (including expired ones) or would copies of the IRP cards be sufficient? Asking as in some cases there were no stamps on the passport as renewals were done online?

Thanks

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Re: Confirmation on Citizenship documents Application Please

Post by KyukChick » Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:56 pm

https://www.irishimmigration.ie/wp-cont ... l-2024.pdf has a list of all the documents you need as proof of residency. You need to confirm you meet the requirement for number of days for reckonable residence, but you cannot your passport stamps or IRPs as proof.

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Re: Confirmation on Citizenship documents Application Please

Post by kupuser » Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:30 am

Thanks for the reply.

Just to clarify my question. I meant what evidence do we need to give to show "residency permission". See the attached screenshot from the citizenship document (taken from INIS online application site).

Would IRP cards be sufficient?
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