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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by Angel99 » Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:09 pm

Hi,

Yes the application will be accepted. That's how most people do it anyway when they don't have their own accommodation yet. Just make sure you don't spread the news.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by barbosa8 » Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:02 pm

Hi All,

I have been living in Ireland, Cork since 2022 April.
I came with Stamp 2 (English Language course)
Then I obtained Stamp 1 with general employment permit.

Now I am getting married with my EU partner in November 2024 and will apply to EU Treaty.

As I already have stamp 1, do I need to fill the forms and send it or should I just go to Garda station?

Thank you

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by meself2 » Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:51 pm

barbosa8 wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:02 pm
Hi All,

I have been living in Ireland, Cork since 2022 April.
I came with Stamp 2 (English Language course)
Then I obtained Stamp 1 with general employment permit.

Now I am getting married with my EU partner in November 2024 and will apply to EU Treaty.

As I already have stamp 1, do I need to fill the forms and send it or should I just go to Garda station?

Thank you
You still have to fill in the forms.
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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by Terry68 » Wed Aug 28, 2024 8:42 pm

Hi there send in my EUTR4 forms for the review of the EUTR1 application seems they are now considering my UN 1951 Travel document they asked the colour copies and confirmation of my refugee status in France , kids births certificates and their passport photos they replied after 2 days by email to my solicitor . Any idea how long the review process take .

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by Angel99 » Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:40 am

Terry68 wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 8:42 pm
Hi there send in my EUTR4 forms for the review of the EUTR1 application seems they are now considering my UN 1951 Travel document they asked the colour copies and confirmation of my refugee status in France , kids births certificates and their passport photos they replied after 2 days by email to my solicitor . Any idea how long the review process take .
Hi,
Only the case worker can tell you the timeframe but If you provide them all what they requested for it shouldn't take long since your application was not refused based on your marriage or your spouse's activities in the state.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by Terry68 » Thu Aug 29, 2024 6:08 am

Hi
Ok so I think within the 15 days period they noted .

Thank u

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by notme » Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:22 pm

Is the delay in EUTR1A application due to which older IRP expired counted as reckonable for Citizenship? The applicant was eligible for citizenship before the IRP expired but die to delay and no temporary permission was out if IRP for 4 months.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by meself2 » Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:15 am

notme wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:22 pm
Is the delay in EUTR1A application due to which older IRP expired counted as reckonable for Citizenship? The applicant was eligible for citizenship before the IRP expired but die to delay and no temporary permission was out if IRP for 4 months.
i wouldn't expect that, as for EUTR1A you're not a partner automatically (like with marriage), they have to acknowledge it. As they haven't accepted it yet, time for citizenship (as EU citizen partner) hasn't started.
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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by notme » Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:10 am

Thank you meself2 for the reply..Appreciate your response even more as this is only related to EUTR in some way.

The applicant is not applying as a partner of EU Citizen but as 5 years in ireland on different stamps (mostly 1g and 1) The reckonable residence (on 1g and 1) finished 31 November 2023, the acknowledgement of EUTR1A was on 1 of Decemeber and the IRP expired 2 december.

EUTR1A was refused in April. so the applicant got themselves a CSEP and stamp1 IRP in April 2024.

Now the applicant want to apply for citizenship. my question is around if the time between december and april, when applicant didnt had an IRp but also didnt leave Ireland (no stamp on passport to prove that they didnt leave) would still make them eligible for citizenship.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by bingopingo » Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:46 pm

Here's my timeline:

Date of Application: Aug 12, 2024
Date of Acknowledgement letter sent: Sep 06, 2024
Date of Stamp 4 received: TBD
Date of final approval or refusal: Sep 06, 2024
If refused Reason for refusal: N/A

We received full approval with the acknowledgment letter in basically 24 calendar days; it was not a temporary EU4Fam Stamp. The letter invited us to make an appointment at ISD in Dublin, the current wait period is for a solid two months - longer than it took for a decision on the main EUTR1A application. We have to wait until early November to register residence.

Question 1: What's the chance I can call the Toll Free Number every now and then and try to get a sooner appointment? I assume it's the influx of international students looking for registering their status at the Immigration Office that's clogging up the schedule.

Question 2: Can we travel outside Ireland with only this letter, or do we absolutely have to wait until we get the Stamp EU4Fam? Partner requires visa to enter Ireland given his nationality.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by meself2 » Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:59 pm

bingopingo wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:46 pm
What's the chance I can call the Toll Free Number every now and then and try to get a sooner appointment? I assume it's the influx of international students looking for registering their status at the Immigration Office that's clogging up the schedule
You can try, but I doubt they can just rebook you - you may need to cancel your existing one first and it's very risky.
bingopingo wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:46 pm
Can we travel outside Ireland with only this letter, or do we absolutely have to wait until we get the Stamp EU4Fam? Partner requires visa to enter Ireland given his nationality.
He won't be let back without an IRP card - airlines won't let him on a plane back, as IRP (or a visa) is what confirms the status.
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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by btorog » Fri Sep 27, 2024 8:01 pm

I made the application on September 9 this year and I received the response today and temporary permission until 09.06.25 (just 17 days for a response! Amazing!)
and asking me for more documents and a sheet of questions about our marriage (as guests and traveling together (relationship questionnaire)

Now I have to make an appointment to go to the Garda in Carrickmacross (I live outside Dublin).
Questions:

1)Now will they just stamp my passport or will they give me an IRP?

2)If they give me a new IRP, will they print it that same day? Or will they only give me this card until they approve my residency?

3)I sent all kinds of documents, up to 300 pages of WhatsApp conversations, 30 pages of photos together and our family, but they still ask me for more information. Or is it just a matter of filling out these questions? (Relationship questionnaire) It seems illogical to me that they ask me for more documents if I send everything in print.

I hope you can help me because I want to work soon.
Kind regards!

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by meself2 » Fri Sep 27, 2024 10:07 pm

IRPs aren't printed in local stations- they're printed centrally and then sent to those stations. I highly doubt youllget your card on this visit (but possible; I don't know the procedures for outside Dublin)
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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by Angel99 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 12:58 am

Hi @btorog,

Normally they stamp your passport for your first registration. After registering, your IRP will be posted to you within 15 working days.

Enquire well if you are supposed to visit the Garda in Carrickmacross or the big one in Monaghan town. Not all Garda has immigration services. Find out from;

Monaghan.DistrictOffice@garda.ie




If they provided you with and asked you to fill out a relationship questionnaire form, just do that.
(Sending them 300 pages of proof of relationship as a spouse wasn't necessary. You could have just provided atleast 2 evidence in each year stated on your form when you met your spouse proof of relationship from that time till marriage.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by Angel99 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:06 am


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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by trevor35657 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:14 am

hi,

i just applied for the eutr1 and i sent my application on 24/09/24 and they revived it on the 25th. i’m currently holding a stamp 2 visa which is due to expire on the 30th of this month.
i know i am legally allowed to remain in the country during the course of my application process but i have a job and my employer is asking for my visa.
please what do i do? i’m really losing my mind.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by Angel99 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 12:11 pm

trevor35657 wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:14 am
hi,

i just applied for the eutr1 and i sent my application on 24/09/24 and they revived it on the 25th. i’m currently holding a stamp 2 visa which is due to expire on the 30th of this month.
i know i am legally allowed to remain in the country during the course of my application process but i have a job and my employer is asking for my visa.
please what do i do? i’m really losing my mind.
Hi,

Nowadays they are processing applications faster so just hope they send you a temporary stamp 4 registration letter within next month. You need the registration appointment to prove to your employer you have a new permission. For now it's up to your employer to consider to keep you or the worse.

*****That's Irish immigration style.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by silentghost13 » Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:29 am

I applied for the C visa in the July 26 ( gave the documents to the consulate of Ireland in Morocco ) it s been 2 months and still didn't get an answer from the Abu Dhabi embassy I contacted the consulate here in morocco she said that even though it is eea spouse visa it could take from 2 months till 3 or even 6, even though it is urgent processing.
is that normal ?

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by Angel99 » Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:28 am

silentghost13 wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:29 am
I applied for the C visa in the July 26 ( gave the documents to the consulate of Ireland in Morocco ) it s been 2 months and still didn't get an answer from the Abu Dhabi embassy I contacted the consulate here in morocco she said that even though it is eea spouse visa it could take from 2 months till 3 or even 6, even though it is urgent processing.
is that normal ?
Yes since Ireland is not part of Schengen area their EU family visas can take up to 6 months. Some worse cases 12 months.

Did you apply online and submitted the required documents to the embassy?

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by silentghost13 » Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:31 pm

Angel99 wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:28 am
silentghost13 wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:29 am
I applied for the C visa in the July 26 ( gave the documents to the consulate of Ireland in Morocco ) it s been 2 months and still didn't get an answer from the Abu Dhabi embassy I contacted the consulate here in morocco she said that even though it is eea spouse visa it could take from 2 months till 3 or even 6, even though it is urgent processing.
is that normal ?
Yes since Ireland is not part of Schengen area their EU family visas can take up to 6 months. Some worse cases 12 months.

Did you apply online and submitted the required documents to the embassy?
yes I applied online did everything.
would I be able to get it in 3 months ?

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by meself2 » Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:40 pm

silentghost13 wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:31 pm
Angel99 wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:28 am
silentghost13 wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:29 am
I applied for the C visa in the July 26 ( gave the documents to the consulate of Ireland in Morocco ) it s been 2 months and still didn't get an answer from the Abu Dhabi embassy I contacted the consulate here in morocco she said that even though it is eea spouse visa it could take from 2 months till 3 or even 6, even though it is urgent processing.
is that normal ?
Yes since Ireland is not part of Schengen area their EU family visas can take up to 6 months. Some worse cases 12 months.

Did you apply online and submitted the required documents to the embassy?
yes I applied online did everything.
would I be able to get it in 3 months ?
Very much doubt it. You just have to wait and see how long it takes.
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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by silentghost13 » Thu Oct 03, 2024 12:25 am

meself2 wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:40 pm
silentghost13 wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:31 pm
Angel99 wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:28 am
silentghost13 wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:29 am
I applied for the C visa in the July 26 ( gave the documents to the consulate of Ireland in Morocco ) it s been 2 months and still didn't get an answer from the Abu Dhabi embassy I contacted the consulate here in morocco she said that even though it is eea spouse visa it could take from 2 months till 3 or even 6, even though it is urgent processing.
is that normal ?
Yes since Ireland is not part of Schengen area their EU family visas can take up to 6 months. Some worse cases 12 months.

Did you apply online and submitted the required documents to the embassy?
yes I applied online did everything.
would I be able to get it in 3 months ?
Very much doubt it. You just have to wait and see how long it takes.
So I won t be able to get it in 3 months ?
I don't understand why they call it urgent processing if it takes that long.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by Angel99 » Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:12 am

Just hope they will expedite the application. Though some people got theirs 1 - 2 months. Majority are issued by 6 months - 1 year.

If it's urgent best was moving to another EU country then move back to Ireland with your spouse at the same time when she receives her EU- residence card.

Or just be patient.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by silentghost13 » Thu Oct 03, 2024 1:06 pm

Angel99 wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:12 am
Just hope they will expedite the application. Though some people got theirs 1 - 2 months. Majority are issued by 6 months - 1 year.

If it's urgent best was moving to another EU country then move back to Ireland with your spouse at the same time when she receives her EU- residence card.

Or just be patient.
I understand, I guess I have only to wait.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by silentghost13 » Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:26 pm

Angel99 wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:12 am
Just hope they will expedite the application. Though some people got theirs 1 - 2 months. Majority are issued by 6 months - 1 year.

If it's urgent best was moving to another EU country then move back to Ireland with your spouse at the same time when she receives her EU- residence card.

Or just be patient.
I just got an answer of refusal of the visa, because I didn't submit the evidence of relationship.
and proof of my wife residing in ireland.
Can you please help me to make the appeal ?

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