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Delay in Borders, Immigration and Citizenship Bill?

Post by anjali_devi » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:53 pm

Hi,

I do not see the date for the first reading anymore below

http://www.commonsleader.gov.uk/output/page2373.asp

Does this mean anything? Is this postponed?

Thanks,
Anju

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Re: Delay in Borders, Immigration and Citizenship Bill?

Post by republique » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:16 pm

anjali_devi wrote:Hi,

I do not see the date for the first reading anymore below

http://www.commonsleader.gov.uk/output/page2373.asp

Does this mean anything? Is this postponed?

Thanks,
Anju
Works for me.

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Post by anjali_devi » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:42 pm

What date do you see for 1st reading under Borders, Immigration and Citizenship Bill?

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Post by bototo » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:35 pm

I had a look and there are no dates.

Maybe they don't have time for it in this session of Parliament?

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Post by republique » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:43 pm

anjali_devi wrote:What date do you see for 1st reading under Borders, Immigration and Citizenship Bill?
No I meant, I am happy that it is not listed.
The longer it takes them to go through the process, the better for everyone

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Post by yhdyhd » Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:27 pm

I guess it is not that the parliament doesn't have time for the bill. It is the home office who can not produce the complete draft. They are confused by their own stupid ideas. 8)

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Post by thsths » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:39 am

yhdyhd wrote:I guess it is not that the parliament doesn't have time for the bill. It is the home office who can not produce the complete draft. They are confused by their own stupid ideas. 8)
Or maybe they found that less legislation is better suited to their purpose than more? After revoking a number of parts of the immigration law (the 7 year child concession, the 14 year concession etc), the legal situation is murkier than ever. That is not necessarily a win for either side (except for the lawyers, of course).

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Post by ci07jjs » Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:00 pm

thsths wrote:
yhdyhd wrote:I guess it is not that the parliament doesn't have time for the bill. It is the home office who can not produce the complete draft. They are confused by their own stupid ideas. 8)
Or maybe they found that less legislation is better suited to their purpose than more? After revoking a number of parts of the immigration law (the 7 year child concession, the 14 year concession etc), the legal situation is murkier than ever. That is not necessarily a win for either side (except for the lawyers, of course).
what gives you the impression that 7years and 14 yrs concession are being revoked?

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Post by thsths » Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:44 pm

ci07jjs wrote:what gives you the impression that 7years and 14 yrs concession are being revoked?
http://freemovement.wordpress.com/2008/ ... withdrawn/

The 14 years concession is more complicated, but I thought that was essentially blocked, too. (I could be wrong, as I am more interested in European law.)

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Post by anjali_devi » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:45 pm

Thank god i have not gone blind.


Yes the later the better, I am up for mine in April

Maybe the credit crunch is keeping the the government busy

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Post by Sky_High » Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:13 pm

Yeh I could think only two things
1- Govt does not want to discuss this bill now because it will bring huge criticism not only from opposition but also from general public. As they always think that govt is not doing enough to control the immigration.

2- They are making new changes in the bill - perhaps

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Post by MrBaboo » Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:42 am

Sky_High wrote:Yeh I could think only two things
1- Govt does not want to discuss this bill now because it will bring huge criticism not only from opposition but also from general public. As they always think that govt is not doing enough to control the immigration.

2- They are making new changes in the bill - perhaps
Or to combine this post and the previous, they might be using the credit crunch as cover for making more immigrant-unfriendly changes to the bill so as to blunt the public discontentment with immigration generally.

I hope I'm wrong but Phil Woolas is a wiley operator. At least as a Commonweath citizen I can try to vote the b*st*rds out.

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Post by zebra3 » Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:30 pm

i think the 14 years concession still in place.

thats from this link

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/polic ... les/part7/






Long residence
Long residence in the United Kingdom
276A. For the purposes of paragraphs 276B to 276D:

(a) "continuous residence" means residence in the United Kingdom for an unbroken period, and for these purposes a period shall not be considered to have been broken where an applicant is absent from the United Kingdom for a period of 6 months or less at any one time, provided that the applicant in question has existing limited leave to enter or remain upon their departure and return, but shall be considered to have been broken if the applicant:

(i) has been removed under Schedule 2 of the 1971 Act, section 10 of the 1999 Act, has been deported or has left the United Kingdom having been refused leave to enter or remain here; or

(ii) has left the United Kingdom and, on doing so, evidenced a clear intention not to return; or

(iii) left the United Kingdom in circumstances in which he could have had no reasonable expectation at the time of leaving that he would lawfully be able to return; or

(iv) has been convicted of an offence and was sentenced to a period of imprisonment or was directed to be detained in an institution other than a prison (including, in particular, a hospital or an institution for young offenders), provided that the sentence in question was not a suspended sentence; or

(v) has spent a total of more than 18 months absent from the United Kingdom during the period in question.

(b) "lawful residence" means residence which is continuous residence pursuant to:

(i) existing leave to enter or remain; or

(ii) temporary admission within section 11 of the 1971 Act where leave to enter or remain is subsequently granted; or

(iii) an exemption from immigration control, including where an exemption ceases to apply if it is immediately followed by a grant of leave to enter or remain.

Requirements for an extension of stay on the ground of long residence in the United Kingdom
276A1. The requirement to be met by a person seeking an extension of stay on the ground of long residence in the United Kingdom is that the applicant meets all the requirements in paragraph 276B of these rules, except the requirement to have sufficient knowledge of the English language and sufficient knowledge about life in the United Kingdom contained in paragraph 276B (iii).

Extension of stay on the ground of long residence in the United Kingdom
276A2. An extension of stay on the ground of long residence in the United Kingdom may be granted for a period not exceeding 2 years provided that the Secretary of State is satisfied that the requirement in paragraph 276A1 is met.

Conditions to be attached to extension of stay on the ground of long residence in the United Kingdom
276A3. Where an extension of stay is granted under paragraph 276A2:

(i) if the applicant has spent less than 14 years in the UK , the grant of leave should be subject to the same conditions attached to his last period of lawful leave, or

(ii) if the applicant has spent 14 years or more in the UK, the grant of leave should not contain any restriction on employment.

Refusal of extension of stay on the ground of long residence in the United Kingdom
276A4. An extension of stay on the ground of long residence in the United Kingdom is to be refused if the Secretary of State is not satisfied that the requirement in paragraph 276A1 is met.

Requirements for indefinite leave to remain on the ground of long residence in the United Kingdom
276B. The requirements to be met by an applicant for indefinite leave to remain on the ground of long residence in the United Kingdom are that:

(i) (a) he has had at least 10 years continuous lawful residence in the United Kingdom; or

(b) he has had at least 14 years continuous residence in the United Kingdom, excluding any period spent in the United Kingdom following service of notice of liability to removal or notice of a decision to remove by way of directions under paragraphs 8 to 10A, or 12 to 14, of Schedule 2 to the Immigration Act 1971 or section 10 of the Immigration and Asylum Act 1999 Act, or of a notice of intention to deport him from the United Kingdom; and

(ii) having regard to the public interest there are no reasons why it would be undesirable for him to be given indefinite leave to remain on the ground of long residence, taking into account his:

(a) age; and

(b) strength of connections in the United Kingdom; and

(c) personal history, including character, conduct, associations and employment record; and

(d) domestic circumstances; and

(e) previous criminal record and the nature of any offence of which the person has been convicted; and

(f) compassionate circumstances; and

(g) any representations received on the person's behalf; and

(iii) the applicant has sufficient knowledge of the English language and sufficient knowledge about life in the United Kingdom, unless he is under the age of 18 or aged 65 or over at the time he makes his application.

Indefinite leave to remain on the ground of long residence in the United Kingdom
276C. Indefinite leave to remain on the ground of long residence in the United Kingdom may be granted provided that the Secretary of State is satisfied that each of the requirements of paragraph 276B is met.

Refusal of indefinite leave to remain on the ground of long residence in the United Kingdom
276D. Indefinite leave to remain on the ground of long residence in the United Kingdom is to be refused if the Secretary of State is not satisfied that each of the requirements of paragraph 276B is met.

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Post by bototo » Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:32 pm

So far we have only been guessing that the bill has been postponed. Does anyone know for sure?

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Post by yhdyhd » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:18 pm

I read this news here http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/jan/1 ... sport-bill Does this mean the bill will be presented on wednesday as planned? :(

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Post by MrBaboo » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:34 am

yhdyhd wrote:I read this news here http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/jan/1 ... sport-bill Does this mean the bill will be presented on wednesday as planned? :(
Who knows. Wait and see, I guess.

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Post by munisa » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:23 pm

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