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this is so sad....................do u know anything baout the other colleges? like bite...lcmit...............rizwan567 wrote:I endorse the comments of 'Khalidsam'. The only feasible option would be withdrawing the application. Othrewise be prepred to see the worse. One thing is for sure, there is no genuine student from CCL. Ais hamam main sabhi nungay hain!!!!!!!! Closure of this college was inevitable. It had to happen one day. I have not seen more greedy college than CCL. This was just the trailer. After the launch of Tier 4 UKBA indirectly will have grip over all the students in the U.K.
There have been colleges in the past which were closed and students who have had visas based from the documents of those colleges were affected but not in mass. Because student visa extension are applied through the year and at any given time the application from any college usually do not exceed above 200-300. so if the college is closed then only 200-300 applicants are affected. But due to 30 Oct 2008 (maintenance funds flexible transitional deadline) college and agents associated with college tried to make maximum money before the deadline. Because after the 30 Oct 2008 student should had bank statement of 3 months with balance not dropping below £800. Before the deadline of 30 Oct 2008, applications were sent to HO in mass. And now the college is closed. So all of you are traped together. Its just like lots of fish caught in a net at the same time due to the 30 Oct 2008 maintenance funds deadline.
Above was bit discouraging, wasn't it? Now I come to bit encouraging side:
There are following scenarios:
1. Application is approved (viz highly unlikely)
2. Withdraw the application.
3. Get the refusal and hope that you are given the right of appeal.
Hire a solicitor/barristor and advise him/her to linger on the appeal process. Appeal, re-appeal in the higher court or judicial review in the end. I am aware the lawyers could take appeal process from 12 months to 36 months. So you will remain legal until all the appeal avenues are closed. However in all this time you wont be able to travel because you wont have valid visa to fly back into the country.
On what basis you will get the appeal successful, please advise me:
The only argument you guys have that if HO approved the other applications from CCL then you also have legitimate expectation to have your application approved. This is the only small/weak argument, apart from this you do not have a the weakest of the argument to rely on in the court. And the basis of this small argument is also wrong. If earlier applications were approved wrongly it does not mean that HO carry on the wrong practice for all of you. Logical enough!! Isn't it..
And one very important point, if the CCL college and staff during interogation by government agencies have already accepted that no class was ever run then where you appeal case stands????????????? Ofcourse your judge will have copy of the results of such interogation.
And those who claim to be genuine students are unlikely to last even the smallest session of cross questioning by the judge and solicitor of HO (if present). Your top solicitor/barristor will not be able to save you. This case will make your top solicitor/barristor humilated in the court instead! And mind you something, a reputated solicitor/barristor do not take on weak cases like this one. The only lawyer who will take your case is that who is hungary for money not for success. As there is no basis of this case.
Therefore hire a top lawyer who specialize on ligering on the justice process.
I was just trying to analyse the whole situation bases on my thoughts, but still my heartiest sympthies are with all of you and I hope and wish something good will happen to all of you.
Steve_guru wrote:Heres a suggestion to save cost and for need unity over PSW refusal:
Book the Airtickets of all those leaving the countries at one go, you guys will save money, perhaps in 1-2 airplanes you all can be accomodated and at a much cheaper price...
Seems funny that you want to pick on this individual when the most useless poster on the PSW forum is certainly not this one. Salam123 wins that award hands down; he even creates new accounts to argue with himself!rizwan567 wrote: Is it mandatory for you to leave comments on every single post on this forum.
You just joined three days back and already have 40 posts.
Quality of your posts is poor. None of your posts contain any immigration advice what so ever. Actually they are all about having arguments with others. This clearly tell the depth of your chracter and personality.
You already had a sever pat with somone on other thread.
Kindly improve the quality of your posts and write something useful instead of arguments and counter arguments.
I guess you meant fake students, no need mincing words 'cos they do know themselves...lol. PSW refusals do get right of appeal and receive back their passports back but I think CCL students are having their passport witheld.Frontier Mole wrote:As for worrying about passports for removal - PSW "students" do not get their passports back once they are refused. So that is not the problem you suggest it would be.
That is WRONG INFO! People with right of appeal get their passports back even if their visas get expired during the application process. The only exception to this would probably be those who are from CCL, are u sure you work for the home office dude? Stop giving out wrong info!Frontier Mole wrote:No matter what, if your visa expires during PSW application process and the PSW is refused then the passport will be retained. This is SOP for UKBA.
Even more deplorable when so-called HO staff do not know what is obtainable and expected of them. If you don't know what happens within the organisation you claim to work for, don't come in here quoting laws which don't depict the actual day to day runnings of the HO. They do not retain passports excepts on grounds similar to those which CCL students find themselves in and the earlier you get that fact right, the better for you. I can't imagine YOU actually represent the HO in court, that's just hilarious!...LOLFrontier Mole wrote:Section 17 of the Asylum and Immigration (Treatment of Claimants, etc.) Act 2004 confers on the Secretary of State the power to retain passports and other documents.
The Act reads:
Section 17 Retention of Documents
Where a document comes into the possession of the Secretary of State or an immigration officer in the course of the exercise of an immigration function, the Secretary of State or an immigration officer may retain the document while he suspects that a person to whom the document relates may be liable to removal from the United Kingdom in accordance with a provision of the Immigration Acts,
and retention of the document may facilitate the removal.
Section 17 came into effect on 1 December 2004.
The Asylum and Immigration (Treatment of Claimants, etc.) Act 2004 can be viewed at:
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2004/20040019.htm.
I also think it is deplorable that certain people believe they know the law and comment on it when it is plainly obvious that they don't.