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Actually i did claim 25 points for income as well and it was way over what they required. It comprised salary income from firm and income against professional service contract with another company (my ex-employer) I provided tax certificates obtained from my employer and contractor. But the case worker mistook those two different certificates for two evidences of one income and calculated my income on the basis of the one which was lower than 5,000 pounds.jazbaati99 wrote:Hiya
Sorry to hear about refusal. I think another point that HO looks into is the earning potential. If you claim specilist points, they assume that you are paid enough to claim salary points as well. I think that did not go in your favour. On your review application just may it is worth while to address this fact as well.
All the best
I agree, i could have done that too and probably it is done more often than not. Unfortunately i can not do that now while i am going for a review (since it would count as additional info). Still i beleive one can't challenge the authenticity of any letter signed in the style mine are since this is a international convention (are you aware of any legal references like something from the partnership act or so that may help) and a practice that follows world wide. This is the best i can do for now. Otherwise i could have asked my senior manager or accountant to sign the letter for me.Kotiara wrote:I used to work for a Big 4 company as well. I got a letter from HR Manager of the office where I was worked. Now waiting for results. Can't you do the same thing? I mean, there is a difference between audit reports and professional references. It just can't be that every letter ever issued by PwC hasnt been signed by a specific person.
Rao!rao166 wrote:Noman my case is somewhat similar to you in income case.
I am working full time in a comapny and a consultant for another company. Together my income will cross the limit. I am just waiting of 3oth june. after that i ll be able to get tax return certificate and i ll apply INSHAALLAH.
What do u think , is this skeptical in the eyes of case worker or not. provide that my income from consultancy which is a part time is more than from regular. Secondly the consultancy fee i have a contrat to get it after a year and i just got it 2 months ago. considering all these in mind what all of u think about my income points.
Hi Dear,jazbaati99 wrote:Hiya
Sorry to hear about refusal. I think another point that HO looks into is the earning potential. If you claim specilist points, they assume that you are paid enough to claim salary points as well. I think that did not go in your favour. On your review application just may it is worth while to address this fact as well.
All the best
I will, if my review application is refused as well. I dont think it would take more than a couple of months.Junior0300 wrote:If you send an email to HSMP team, regarding any query, using 5 different email addresses. You are likely to get 6 different answers. There is no hard and fast rule they are following.
All depends on the case worker or you can say YOUR LUCK...
Instead of messing with them why don't you apply again a fresh application, obviously you can get your reference letter signed by anybody in your company.
You need to go for all possible points including the 25 income points. Besides, if you back off on this point now, you may lose credibility.Actually i did claim 25 points for income as well and it was way over what they required. It comprised salary income from firm and income against professional service contract with another company (my ex-employer) I provided tax certificates obtained from my employer and contractor. But the case worker mistook those two different certificates for two evidences of one income and calculated my income on the basis of the one which was lower than 5,000 pounds.
Even if i point out that mistake, i might still be refused any points in that category since i did not provide two evidences each for those incomes. Therfore, i plan not to contest that part of the decision. I dont want to look like arguing for the sake of arguement.
Now, why i provided only one evidence, well! my tax period did not reconcile with the last 12 months prior to the application date and we are not given any monthly payslips. Also, i dont feel that i even need that or any points for specialist role. i already have 30 points and if i get 35 for 4 years experience (since i have more than that), that would be more than enough for me.
Hi SImar,simar wrote:Hi dhavaluk,
Can you pls tell in which profession are you in. Also please let us know as how much are expecting to earn in first year in UK.
What figure did you fill in the hsmp form.
regards
simar
Yeah!! i would want to go for a free review first and if rejected then i will proceed with a fresh application. Reason being, i am over 28 now, need to get ammended and updated experience letters as well as wait for the tax return. in the meantime, i hope for a positive result of this review application. and i strongly feel that i must be given 35 marks for experience since the letters are verifiable and signed in agreement with the normally accepted business practices world wide. you know such documents are acceptable legal evidence in court proceedings as also evident from the ENRON case in the US and i have provided extracts and links to documents signed in such style that were used as evidences in that case. All in all i feel that on legal and technical grounds i have a strong case and should be approved (although the more relevant thing is what the hsmp guys think )iyanu wrote:Hi Nomanlodhi,
I think you need a fresh review as you have made so many mistakes in your first application. HO will not take any documents (though in exceptional cases, which I think yours does not fit into) when doing a request review.
I will suggest you repackage your evidences especially now that you know a lot of things and then do a fresh application.
But if you want to give your review (make sure it is only your request letter) a trial then go ahead afterall it does not cost you anything.
Got it!
Good Luck.
Joseph! i agree with you except that i can only argue against their assessment and explain my point of view by writing a letter to them without attaching any evidences. Hence, i am not even attaching the printouts of documents i mentioned in my above post. i have only printed extracts from those reports and clauses from various UK laws / bye laws and provided them with links. i have also provided the names and contact details of all the partners but as part of the review application and not as a separate attachment.Joseph wrote:I disagree with the last post. A fresh application is not needed or desirable. Specifically address their concerns in their rejection letter and you should be fine.
Joseph