Changes Very soon in Tier 1

[Mohammed]

If they keep changing the goal post every now and again there won't be any players left to play the game, may be thats what they want.

[nokia33]

What if someone files a new application before April ? will he still have to meet the new criteria?

[pakuk]

My question is what rights do we have in this country. I hope we were not brought here as slaves. There in no other country in the world which changes immigration rules like UK, please rectify me if I am wrong. It is sensible to tighten rules for people immigrating to the UK in future but changing rules for existing immigrants can not be justified. I encourage everyone on this forum to raise their voices on media, through MPs etc. Even then if UK govt changes rules for immigrants living here then we will only be left with going to court.

[tipu20]

As HSMP or Tier 1 Holder looks like no rights are given.

HSMP Post JR have the following line in the agreement

""

• I am aware that the rules and regulations governing HSMP and leave applications may change in the future and I do not assume that the requirements covering any future applications will be the same.


""

Which mean they can change any rules any time and we have to qualify for new rules or leave / switch and if they raise the bar to must have master degree i am one of them who will not qualify

I think the main point here is that we need to wait for details to be announced

Regards,
Tipu

[moneypenny]

I completely agree that it seems ridiculous to apply this to extension applications. How disruptive is it to your UK employer if you have to return home? I personally work for a very small company. My employer spent thousands of pounds training me. If I had to leave it would seriously seriously effect his business. I am sure I am not the only person whose employer would be put in a horrible place if one of their workers left.

Reading the statement from the HO though it does clearly say, workers coming to the UK.
"tighten new criteria against which highly skilled migrants [b]seeking entry[/b] to the United Kingdom are judged, by raising the qualifications and salary required for tier 1 of the PBS to a Master's degree and a minimum salary of £20,000."
In the case of extensions you have already gained entry... Maybe that is just me being optimistic though!

[unfairworld]

I got hsmp on rules put in place after 5Dec 2006. I only have bachelor degree, so it means i do not qualify for extension under new rules as well, I was just wondering is it possible or advisable to apply for ext. earlier,

1> does any one have idea how much earlier one can apply for extension, my ext. is due end of may ??

2> any idea when exactly in April, the new changes are going to be implemented,

Thanks for your advise.

[confusedhsmp]

Funnily, I am finding UK to be the most dishonest country to its residents.

Its just a stunt by Gordon Brown to enact his dearly beloved remark "British Jobs for British Workers" which otherwise means 'Slavery for non British workers'.

When we applied for HSMP we never agreed that we will be studying for our masters in order to extend our stay!

Further the burden on our employers would be even more looking at the fact that no British workers will be able to fill our position in the same way. I have many British workers working under me and none of them is as committed as our migrant counter parts. All they care at the end of the month is their pay and when do we increase it!

one of the most COWARD acts by this government!

[confusedhsmp]

I completely agree that it seems ridiculous to apply this to extension applications. How disruptive is it to your UK employer if you have to return home? I personally work for a very small company. My employer spent thousands of pounds training me. If I had to leave it would seriously seriously effect his business. I am sure I am not the only person whose employer would be put in a horrible place if one of their workers left.

Reading the statement from the HO though it does clearly say, workers coming to the UK.
"tighten new criteria against which highly skilled migrants seeking entry to the United Kingdom are judged, by raising the qualifications and salary required for tier 1 of the PBS to a Master's degree and a minimum salary of £20,000."
In the case of extensions you have already gained entry... Maybe that is just me being optimistic though!

I totally agree with you. My employer has spend thousands training me as well. I am relatively in a senior position and they would be devastated if I had to leave due to this new policy.

I also read it as you. May be its only for new entrants. But why would they be so nice to us?

I work in a legal firm and have contacts with some of the most prominent Lawyers/Barristers in UK.

May be we should start with our own thread so as to register users who will be affected due to these unfair changes.

I am not optimistic on winning the case against the HO should these new rules come into effect but am extremely hopeful that judges would consider exceptionality of our circumstances considering the fact that raising the barriers to master would make it practically impossible for anyone to qualify under new policy who is simply a graduate. The main reason for this is I myself started studying towards my masters in september 2007 and would not be able to get the degree until 2010 as its part-time. The new rules came into effect in December 2006 and anyone seeking admission would have got in September 2007 (same as myself) qualifying for a degree only in 2010.


UNLESS the Home Office expected us to WORK FULL-TIME and also STUDY FULL-TIME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[confusedhsmp]

EVERY ONE DO THIS TODAY..... NOW!!!

Email the Home Office on address below requesting full disclosure of whom these new rules would affect!

Phone: 0114 207 4074
Fax: 0114 207 5861
Email: wpcustomers@ukba.gsi.gov.uk
Address: Customer Contact Centre, UK Border Agency, PO Box 3468, Sheffield, S3 8WA

Anyone who gets the information should update all of us.

Link for contact:

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/contac ... ctcentres/

Your email can make a difference before this new policy is put in force.

[bonvivz]

Confusedhsmp,

Im up for it! count me in and I totally with your thoughts! It is really unfair after paying huge taxes and we still have to struggle.

Regards,

bon

[pakuk]

I shall not be affected by Masters’ requirement but even then I'll email HO about plans of changing rules for residing immigrants. I strongly encourage other members to do the same even if someone is affected or not. At least we should show some resistance otherwise they will keep on doing what ever they want. It is very difficult to ask them to reiterate once rules are in place.

[confusedhsmp]

Read this report below especially Page 3 (of report not SUN!) and paragraph 52-56.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... 73/173.pdf

Thanks PAK UK for your support. We have to put a stop to this inhumane act by Home Office and need more people like you.

I mean..did we really leave our countries to work here for only 2 years and then be kicked out in this way?


We accept that we have given up our statutory rights by signing the declaration that we would be abiding by new rules in effect at the time of our extension but EXPECTED them to be FAIR.

[pakuk]

As far as I remember, pre Dec 2006 HSMPs won case againts HO based on human rights. I think we can also lodge a case against HO based on human rights if it affects us or our dependents in future, I am not a law expert but will appreciate senior members for their suggessions. I am aware that it is still a plan and who knows what they will do, but from previous experience HO doesn't bring anything in media until and unless they are not serious. Britain counts herself among great democracies of world, so now it is the time to proof. Canada is also badly hit by economic recession, I have friends in Canada and they have access to benifits same as Canadian nationals even from the day they land in Canada.

[ssoct98@hotmail.com]

After having look on the last decision,it looks we all effected because of master degree requirement.
We can only hope about good,i have also sent email to HO,lets see.

[alokchamp_f1]

Hi All,

I have already got my tier 1 visa this jan and im planning to travel on 2nd march, is this going to effect my visa will i have to reapply since i only hold a bachelors degree, can u guys please suggest on this

thanks,
alok

[confusedhsmp]

Hi All,

I have already got my tier 1 visa this jan and im planning to travel on 2nd march, is this going to effect my visa will i have to reapply since i only hold a bachelors degree, can u guys please suggest on this

thanks,
alok

No it would not affect you at all. Only that you start for your masters so that you are eligible for extension next time. And yes may be even PHD you never know about HO.

[alokchamp_f1]

haha thanks a lot for the quick reply i was really tensed for a moment, yea u r right i will have to start studying for masters and get it before i can even think about a job, thts crazy i got tier 1 for job and now i will have to think about extension even before anything and yea i might have to do PHD too to be on a safer side.

thanks again

[ssoct98@hotmail.com]

If you have a look at previous Hsmp history,it looks it effects existing hsmp holders also,but its unfair but its HO,so they can do watever thay think is good for their country.All over the world UK is only country in which one should have to prove immigration many time before getting permanent residency,they are not following austrailian immigration,its one of their own kind of immigartion which can bee seen in UK.

[bonvivz]

Guys can yu sharethe email address of HO you are sending in this regards.

[yipee]

I see Home secretary mentioning something about dependants of PBS immigrants. Does that mean they plan to scrap dependent WP in the UK?

[Jk2007]

(1) Shortage Occupations: The discussion appears to be also stating that migrants will be allowed to work only in shortage occupations. This appears to be very scary for those already in the UK. If they publish the list of shortage occupations, then the employers may be wary of recruiting skilled migrants for positions outside this list of shortage occupations.

(2) Working outside your specialisations: Currently a Tier 1 candidate can work in any field regardless of the qualifications. Not sure if there will be restrictions to work outside the field of specialisations.

(3) Age restrictions: Again it is not clear what will be the maximum age for Tier 1 applicants.

[Jk2007]

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[confusedhsmp]

Bonvivz: Email is wpcustomers@ukba.gsi.gov.uk

For people who have not read my previous post, please email HO questioning whom would this new policy affect?

Yipee: Yes she has sought an enquiry on the economic impact of migrant families. May be they might ban migrant dependents from working OR even ban them from comming to UK. But it may be later this year when the full report is presented.

EVERYONE ELSE

Get you pens out and write to the PM on your concerns about this retrospective change of rules and how it would affect not only you but also our employers!! It wouldn't take much.

Please make sure its typed on computer or written legibly on a piece of paper. You do not have to disclose your Date of Birth. Just your name and Address.

In my past experience you will get a reply if not from him , his clerks representing him.

Write to Number 10

You can write to the PM at the following address:
10 Downing Street,
London,
SW1A 2AA

Link: http://www.number10.gov.uk/footer/contact-us

Worth speaking/writing to your local MP aswell. Get their information from here

http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/l/

BETTER NOW THAN NEVER

______________________________________________________
We voted for your party Gordon in last election. You talk about protectionism. So please walk the talk.

[pakuk]

Guys can yu sharethe email address of HO you are sending in this regards.

I think the email is as below for PBS candidates
wpcustomers@ukba.gsi.gov.uk

[bonvivz]

thanks confusedhsmp.

I was wondering if we can all appeal in a uniform way, would it advisable to have a template for every1 who would like to appeal both HO and the parliament?