UK BADLY IT BY RECESSION - IS IT RIGHT TIME TO VISIT ?

[mohan76]

Hi Friends,
We all know that recession has badly it all the developing country and UK is not an exception. It is badly it as per the news on web, paper and my known people in UK.

So friends who have got the hsmp visa in DEC, JAN AND FEB 09 are in delimma and not clear whether this is the right time to visit UK and try for JOB.......can we be successful ?

I know it depends on the individual talent, qualification, experience etc and then common thing to look upon is safety before leaving the present job and going to UK.

I would request senior's who are already in UK to through some light and help us understand. Thank you friends.

keenly await responses...

[hsmp28122006]

Hi Friends,
We all know that recession has badly it all the developing country and UK is not an exception. It is badly it as per the news on web, paper and my known people in UK.

So friends who have got the hsmp visa in DEC, JAN AND FEB 09 are in delimma and not clear whether this is the right time to visit UK and try for JOB.......can we be successful ?

I know it depends on the individual talent, qualification, experience etc and then common thing to look upon is safety before leaving the present job and going to UK.

I would request senior's who are already in UK to through some light and help us understand. Thank you friends.

keenly await responses...

Its definitely a difficult time but few jobs are still availablle. Search in www.jobserve.com your kind of job and see how many requirements are posted - with that, you will be able to decide whether to come or stay overseas for a while.

Good Luck

[satish.pand]

I would advise not to believe completely job sites like jobserve etc. Most of the sites advise as if there are lot of jobs, but in reality there are very few. The recruitment consultants will call you, but instead they will ask you where u are attending interview to identify the leads for them and grow their business. so pls dont trust the no of advertisements in jobserve blindly. I know many of my friends with 3-4 years experience in U.K and struggling to get an job after being made redundant.

[UKBAbble]

I would think anyone giving up a job to come here to look for one is taking a huge risk.

[indian_uk]

http://ngmix.net/blogs/?p=5

I found this interesting article, worth a read.

[nnj10]

I have personally advised a couple of my friends who are in similar situation to yours, to do as follows:
1) not resign from their current job in home country
2) try for jobs through networking/job sites etc. and try to secure atleast a few interviews.
3) If you secure interview, then come to to UK without leaving current job
4) If selected for the job then go back to home country, resign and then come to UK for work

[dnicky]

Not to deter aspirant job seekers from coming to UK, but the ground reality in UK is really bad.

Just by looking at the various job sites for match job adverts and then deciding to come over is not a good idea. Even if there are a few jobs posted on job portals, a. they are not all genuine jobs, and, b. even if few of them are genuine jobs there are far too many job seekers (local british, work visa holders) currently in the UK desperately wanting to get their hands on the available job opportunities.

Moreover. there are thousands loosing their jobs every week which is just making things more worse. In my opinion this is not a good time to come to UK if one has a well settled and well paid job in their respective home countries.

One other important thing that also needs to be considered is that even if one does manage to secure a job in the UK, given the current economic crisis there is no guarantee that one will be able to retain his/her newly secured job; the reason being if it comes to making resources redundant, more often than not the companies rely upon last in first out policy.

[QEF8DD]

I have personally advised a couple of my friends who are in similar situation to yours, to do as follows:
1) not resign from their current job in home country
2) try for jobs through networking/job sites etc. and try to secure atleast a few interviews.
3) If you secure interview, then come to to UK without leaving current job
4) If selected for the job then go back to home country, resign and then come to UK for work

If anyone actually did the above, could they please advise how they got 1-2 months leave from their company? I find this very difficult with my company/manager. Also, what all problems could be there if we resign from UK itself ? (Why spend on a round-trip when you are not going to serve the notice period in home country anyway!!)

[mohan76]

Hi Friends,
Thanks to everyone of you for sharing and giving very important suggestions and considerations before leaving for UK.

One more suggestions to add on to many is ....can we take help of International Consultancy/Placement Companies here in INDIA. I have seen list of international placement companies...is it worth trying this guys.....even if they charge us for arranging interviews or getting a job.

Do share if any of you have experienced or heard about this guys.
mohan

[gotcha]

If anyone actually did the above, could they please advise how they got 1-2 months leave from their company? I find this very difficult with my company/manager.

It depend on individual to do this. In my opinion at least 3 weeks leave is necessary. And don't come here, without arranging atleast 2 interviews.

Also, what all problems could be there if we resign from UK itself ? (Why spend on a round-trip when you are not going to serve the notice period in home country anyway!!)

It's unprofessionalism, and will cost you in long term.
Consider round-trip cost as insurance to your trip. .
I would not have done it. Imagine if you don't get a job and your employer refuse to take you back

[Vanadil]

I have personally advised a couple of my friends who are in similar situation to yours, to do as follows:
1) not resign from their current job in home country
2) try for jobs through networking/job sites etc. and try to secure atleast a few interviews.
3) If you secure interview, then come to to UK without leaving current job
4) If selected for the job then go back to home country, resign and then come to UK for work

Perfect Advice.

[QEF8DD]

anyone please tell me some good excuses with which I can take at least a months leave.. even 4 weeks leave would be a gift from heaven for me.. I cannot just take the leaves without informing my manager.. that is worse than resigning from UK once you get a job there.. one could be blacklisted for taking leave without permission..

[ukdest]

I have personally advised a couple of my friends who are in similar situation to yours, to do as follows:
1) not resign from their current job in home country
2) try for jobs through networking/job sites etc. and try to secure atleast a few interviews.
3) If you secure interview, then come to to UK without leaving current job
4) If selected for the job then go back to home country, resign and then come to UK for work

Perfect Advice.

I think achieving 2) is not possible under current market situations being in your home country.

There are lot of people chasing a job and consultants are not keen on forwarding resumes of people still in their home country.

I hear the same sentence from each consultant - "Give me a call when you are in the country"

If anyone could arrange an interview before leaving, i would like them to share their experience...

[mohan76]

I have personally advised a couple of my friends who are in similar situation to yours, to do as follows:
1) not resign from their current job in home country
2) try for jobs through networking/job sites etc. and try to secure atleast a few interviews.
3) If you secure interview, then come to to UK without leaving current job
4) If selected for the job then go back to home country, resign and then come to UK for work

Perfect Advice.

I think achieving 2) is not possible under current market situations being in your home country.

There are lot of people chasing a job and consultants are not keen on forwarding resumes of people still in their home country.

I hear the same sentence from each consultant - "Give me a call when you are in the country"

If anyone could arrange an interview before leaving, i would like them to share their experience...

You are absolutely right. It's very difficult to get a positive response against job application via web. They just confirm the application OR tell we will keep you posted about the progress OR tell, contact us once you are here in UK OR Unfortunately your CV is not successful this time, but we have updated our database and be in contact for any future openings.

Real dilemma what to do ? I have been trying through web since past 2-3 weeks and no success...BUT ya, i will not give up....keep trying but then what's next ??? ....thinking of international placement agencies and hence needed guidance on this........

mohan

[ukdest]

I am from India.

I have not come across anyone who has been placed by an agency. In fact i approached Y-Axis. But their assurance is not convincing enough. They said they do not have any tie up with any company and do not have an office in the UK. Then whats the difference!

1)Best option would be to try from your current org.

2)Or wait for the market to pick up so that the time might come when you are offered over telephonic rounds

3)Or take the huge risk of leaving job and hunt for a job from there.

Now i am trying 1). Soon i might go for 3) since nothing is coming up...

Any commnts welocme..

[QEF8DD]

I have personally advised a couple of my friends who are in similar situation to yours, to do as follows:
1) not resign from their current job in home country
2) try for jobs through networking/job sites etc. and try to secure atleast a few interviews.
3) If you secure interview, then come to to UK without leaving current job
4) If selected for the job then go back to home country, resign and then come to UK for work

If we do not resign from present job and do get a get a job in UK, then we would almost surely be asked to join at max within a weeks time(if not in days). Within this period, one needs to come back, resign and then go back again. I doubt whether all the formalities will be completed in home country job like this because in my case the official notice period is 3 months (They might not even accept my resignation in a weeks time!!). So unless one wants to severe the relations with the home country employer (which most would not like to), all of the above should be thought of properly..

Additional thing is what if a consultant asks us to come and attend an interview in UK and by the time we reach there they say position already filled or any other comment due to which we are not able to give the interview(s) we came to give in the first place.. What I am coming to is that taking a months (or 3) break from home country will not give one the peace of mind in searching for an interview.. I am slightly inclined towards leaving the current job and then go and search full time in UK without worrying about getting back home/resigning from company/coming back/UK company terms and cos etc etc...just my view.. i am myself quite confused about which option to go for.. will give it a think again

[SAPIENT]

I have personally advised a couple of my friends who are in similar situation to yours, to do as follows:
1) not resign from their current job in home country
2) try for jobs through networking/job sites etc. and try to secure atleast a few interviews.
3) If you secure interview, then come to to UK without leaving current job
4) If selected for the job then go back to home country, resign and then come to UK for work

If anyone actually did the above, could they please advise how they got 1-2 months leave from their company? I find this very difficult with my company/manager. Also, what all problems could be there if we resign from UK itself ? (Why spend on a round-trip when you are not going to serve the notice period in home country anyway!!)

Slip Disc, Cannot walk.

[mohan76]

Hi friends....confused and really confused what to do ?......presently, i am thinking to continue with present job for a month or two and then leave for UK.....Its just a wait and watch and carefully keep an eye on the market..........but really worried, whether UK govt may come out with something silly before we reach to UK ???? Since they have already decided to make the work permit rule tougher from april to minimize the immigrants.........i hope u all read the same in Times of India News paper dated 23rd Feb (Delhi Times)

[Reader]

I would suggest to wait out 3-4 months and see !!, with new regulations in place they are making it hard for anyone outside EU to find a job, and if you have a dependend beware they might bring in a regulation where dependant doesn't automatically gets the right to be a part of labour market and may have to apply independently for his or her Tier 1.

[mohan76]

I would suggest to wait out 3-4 months and see !!, with new regulations in place they are making it hard for anyone outside EU to find a job, and if you have a dependend beware they might bring in a regulation where dependant doesn't automatically gets the right to be a part of labour market and may have to apply independently for his or her Tier 1.

Hi Reader, thanks for sharing such an vital information. Your information regarding depandent is very alarming. How did you learnt about this ??.....are they going to make such rules immediately...?? Do share its very very important to learn about this...

[sri_sunny]

It's a good thread with an intelligent question and somehow gone out of track... I got my visa stamped in Dec 2008 and arrived here this Jan, thoroughly aware of the fact that life is going to suck with the market conditions here. My aspirations were different and I wish to place few ideas to chew upon depending on your personal circumstances... For those of you who've already faced smooth rides in your life pl carryon with the next thread.

a) The fact is there is no job here at the moment. Nevertheless, it is worth trying through networking sites/jobsites

b) If you have UK experience you are better off than your peers. If you dont, then BETTER defer your arrival till the economy picks up. Remember this could take months, maybe years

c) If you have good savings & think 'life is only once' and dare to face the truth, then fly down. ( In a way this helps, particularly if you are a first timer, since you will have to go through an entire cycle of "Brit" way of living). Other friends in UK, pls comment

d) Consider buying a VoIP phone with UK number or a UK mobile number for the purpose of recruiters calling you not because they cannot afford to call overseas number, but they will directly trash your CV when they know you are not in UK

e) If you have extrordinary skills in your domain then, you well consider calling your travel agent immediately (particularly if you are solicitor specialising in filing insolvencies/bankruptcies or an administrator who can help closing down businesses, there is a huge demand here)

It is quiet tricky that to get a job you should be here. If you are here, you never know when will you get the job. If you are already in a good job in your home country and if you quit to come here, prolonged joblessness would haunt you and make you repent for the decision you have made.

TRUTH OF THE FACT IS THERE IS NO JOB NOW, EVEN IF THERE IS JOB THOSE ARE FOR THE PLAYERS WHO'VE ALREADY BEEN PLAYING IN UK MARKET (NOT MENTIONING JUST NATIVE BRITS). STILL IF YOU HAVE TIME, MONEY, ENERGY & PERSEVERANCE YOU ARE MOST WELCOME @ COST OF YOUR CURRENT JOB & PEACE OF MIND.

N.B: The jobs advertised on websites are seldom live!! Recruiters show carrot to get their database enhanced (because even they do not have any other job to do)

Disclaimer: All the above points are my personal opinions and there is no intention to scaremonger anyone.

About myself: I came in 2006 on WHM visa and I am an IT contractor. Hence it does'nt make a difference for me without having a job for atleast 3-5 months in a year.

[sashi1979]

I agree... from my experience the IT job market is simply dead !

[nksg]

Mohan,

Its actually true. Please search internet for the news on the updates for 22nd Feb. They are not implementing any thing now for the dependents but are going to review the situation and if required, their eligibility to work in UK will end. They are also planning to add some more tax on immigrants..

Ill try to find the link..

Regards

N

[ckshekar14]

Hey Guys

I am from infrastructure support backgroud. I am not doing that gr8 at my present company, Here I dont see any growth at this moment.

I read jobsite & spoke to some consultants they are saying that the support jobs are ok. There is no problem.

So, i am thinking to travel to UK in april by resigning the job here.

What do u guys think on my decision. I am really confused.

if any body in support line. Can u guys suggest some thing to me.

[sashi1979]

atleast that you have a job... without growth.

here there is neither a job, neither growth.

yeah my tummy's grown !!!