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Twin Spark, all extras, built in satnav - don't start me - I've had loads of Alfa and only one bad one...Vanadil wrote:"2002 Alfa Romeo 166 that cost me 1800 quid"
Thats pretty damn good! :D
Siggi wrote:Living well on less than £60k???
If you are single maybe, but it you have a wife and a child you will need every penny of £60k
For those that are wondering yes it really is what I earn and it's still no enough!
Jeff Albright wrote:Well, we live on AU$200000 a year, which is around GBP90000. After 1.5 since moving from the UK, we have three houses, although single storey ones, but all detached (all houses here except some townhouses in big towns are detached and not like those in the UK similar to the army's barracks) in good areas, two for investment, one self-occupied, we have two almost new cars plus we have several investments into different funds, which are all negatively geared and paid from our pre-tax earnings. The tax amount we pay per year after all the deductible payments is around AU$18000. We have several thousands per month cash left, which we can use for holidays or anything else.
In the UK we lived on around GBP 40000 working in our occupation and working like donkeys, our heads off, having no time for anything else, on which we could not afford to buy even a one house in poor area. Furthermore, the taxman in the UK never ever credited to us any taxes we had paid to them after over 9 years living there. Furthermore, after fighting the corrupt UK immigration system for years and eventually overcoming it and getting justice we could not get any child benefit or tax credits until our last year there. I just wonder what can possibly draw people to migrate to the UK and then struggle like this all their lives despite having the qualifications and professions on demand there?! And what are they doing with all the money from horrific amount of taxes people pay there? How could one possibly believe that by migrating to the UK they achieve better quality of life than in the third world countries? And all those living conditions there - traffic, pollution, ovecrowding, extreme hard working, penny pinching, horrendous bills, council taxes, etc... It was just like a horror story.
Jeff Albright wrote:Well, we live on AU$200000 a year, which is around GBP90000. After 1.5 since moving from the UK, we have three houses, although single storey ones, but all detached (all houses here except some townhouses in big towns are detached and not like those in the UK similar to the army's barracks) in good areas, two for investment, one self-occupied, we have two almost new cars plus we have several investments into different funds, which are all negatively geared and paid from our pre-tax earnings. The tax amount we pay per year after all the deductible payments is around AU$18000. We have several thousands per month cash left, which we can use for holidays or anything else.
In the UK we lived on around GBP 40000 working in our occupation and working like donkeys, our heads off, having no time for anything else, on which we could not afford to buy even a one house in poor area. Furthermore, the taxman in the UK never ever credited to us any taxes we had paid to them after over 9 years living there. Furthermore, after fighting the corrupt UK immigration system for years and eventually overcoming it and getting justice we could not get any child benefit or tax credits until our last year there. I just wonder what can possibly draw people to migrate to the UK and then struggle like this all their lives despite having the qualifications and professions on demand there?! And what are they doing with all the money from horrific amount of taxes people pay there? How could one possibly believe that by migrating to the UK they achieve better quality of life than in the third world countries? And all those living conditions there - traffic, pollution, ovecrowding, extreme hard working, penny pinching, horrendous bills, council taxes, etc... It was just like a horror story.
You are right to some extent. But look at the UK - the Governement thieves there have deprived the population out of everything! I have noticed here that many Australians would like to go to Europe, live and work but this is mainly because of getting new experience away from home but as soon as they realise (after living in Europe for a while) how it is there, they return. But clearly despite some negatives in Australia, such as extremely poor and backward banking system, poor service standards, pedantic system, no free healthcare, the overall quality of living in Australia is a lot lot better than in Europe. You can achieve so much here and improve your quality of life dramatically compared to Europe.ben_scaro wrote:I'm an Australian who's made his home in the UK and I do feel duty bound to point out that Australia was the country that implemented 'the Pacific Solution' in relation to at least a certain class of migrants . . . and a number of other rather nasty policies which are not so well known, including managing to intern even a few of its own citizens in the process!
That is quite true, mate and the key point in this discussion!So glibly pointing it as some kind of Nirvana for immigration; well, it's just not that simple.
Yes if you do not do anything about it and if you do not know or do not want to learn how to reduce your tax in a legal way. In the UK your hands are tied, no matter what you do, you just pay taxes and all your money will go down the drain. Australia has one of the best taxation systems in the world. For instance, on our earnings we pay 14% of tax instead of almost 40% that corresponds to our income. My wife pays no tax at all. This is because we knew what to do in order to minimise our tax in a fully legal way.And it has fairly high rates of tax, even by UK standards.
Everyone is experiencing some form of suffering in this situation but Australia is currently one of the best places to be in this regard. Look at these immense cash reserves here that Government had accummulated. Also, the richness in natural resources, commodities, better planning, better Government system will never reduce this country to the same level as the rest of the world. In fact, the economic problems so far only disadvantaged the mining sector but none of the other industry has suffered at all, as opposed to the UK, which is in recession now, which was meant to happen anyway.Further, Australia is suffering economically just as the rest of the world is.
global gypsy wrote:As I see it, the problem in the UK seems to be this bias towards allowing EU citizens free access to the country, while qualified people from other parts of the world have to jump so many hurdles to stay here. While the govt insists on very high skills etc for non-EU citizens, EU citizens with minimal skills can just walk in. As a result, this is displacing jobs for vast majority of Brits - who generally are lower skilled.
And guess what, the small number of highly skilled immigrants now have to support the large number of Brits going on the dole. So they are now going to charge these immigrants even more; now there's even talk of an immigrants' fund.
All this is a sure recipe for disaster in the long run.
And the govt regularly tries to tighten the screws on the non-EU highly skilled immigrants. Perhaps this shows them in a positive light infront of the public?
I know several people here in London who live on salaries in this range, and as far as I can see they look in good health and happy.Jeff Albright wrote:I cannot believe someone would be happy living on £30000 year ...