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Can an EEA citizen sponsor an non EEA citizen for visa?

Post by antalya » Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:21 pm

Hi!
everybody, can an EEA national who is working and living in UK, sponsor anyone for visiting uk?
But, the person who will be the sponsor is nt settled in uk, that mean she is there since couple months yet.

Ä° thank everybody who can unswer my quation!

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Post by vinny » Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:33 pm

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Post by antalya » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:24 pm

Thank u! vinny, for the answer.
May the sponsored visiter get marry in uk, during his/her visit in uk?

Thank everybody for answer!

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Post by vinny » Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:27 pm

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Post by antalya » Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:11 pm

antalya wrote:Thank u! again vinny for ur answer.
The visitor should apply for a Marriage/Civil partnership visit (not settlement) visa before travelling.
Can the status be chainched to immigration visa after getting married

or, what kind of visa would be right for us?

We are engaged my fiancee is living now in uk and working.
She is german citizen, we want to get marry in uk and i want to stay there then with her.

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Post by vinny » Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:49 pm

Although spouses may apply under European Law, they expect Marriage/Civil partnership visit (not settlement) visa holders to depart from the UK before the visa expires.

If you want to subsequently settle in the UK, then they expect you to apply for a Fiancé(e) visa (more expensive). After marriage, apply under European Law; else, if your EEA spouse is also a permanent resident, then you may apply for FLR(M) (285) and subsequently SET(M) (288).

Alternatively, marry outside the UK, then initially apply for an EEA family Permit and subsequently apply under European Law. Else, if your EEA spouse is also a permanent resident, then you may apply for a spouse visa and subsequently SET(M) (288).
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Post by antalya » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:59 pm

Hello! vinny,

Thank u for ur answer again.
Ä° did nt understand right.
There is allways talking for settlement visas, (if your spouse is also permanent resident,) my spouse is not pemanent resident in uk, she is yet new, according this case, may i not have any right to come to uk and get marry there and stay with my spouse in uk?

One there is a none settlement visa
second fiance,
thirth altarnative.

Ä° am asking now first for (not settlement) visa.
May i get a not settlement visa and get marry my spouse in uk, although my spouse is not (permanent resident) in uk?
And as long as i understand i may not stay in uk with my spouse after getting married with (Marriage/Civil partnership visit) visa.
May i apply subsequently from turkey after turning back from uk for a (EEA Family Permit) ?
If you want to subsequently settle in the UK, then they expect you to apply for a Fiancé(e) visa (more expensive). After marriage, apply under European Law; else, if your EEA spouse is also a permanent resident, then you may apply for FLR(M) (285) and subsequently SET(M) (288).
As long as i understand my spouse has to be a permanent resident in uk
that i fill the reguirment for fince/e visa, do i understand it right?

And now quation about alternative marry:
Alternatively, marry outside the UK, then initially apply for an EEA family Permit and subsequently apply under European Law. Else, if your EEA spouse is also a permanent resident, then you may apply for a spouse visa and subsequently SET(M) (288).
Has my spouse also her to be permanent resident in uk?

Ä° ll be very glad if you can be helpfull!
regarts!

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Post by vinny » Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:12 am

antalya wrote:Ä° am asking now first for (not settlement) visa.
May i get a not settlement visa and get marry my spouse in uk, although my spouse is not (permanent resident) in uk?
And as long as i understand i may not stay in uk with my spouse after getting married with (Marriage/Civil partnership visit) visa.
May i apply subsequently from turkey after turning back from uk for a (EEA Family Permit) ?
Yes. They expect Marriage/Civil partnership visit (not settlement) visa holders to depart from the UK before the visa expires. You may subsequently apply for an EEA family Permit. However, as spouses may also apply under European Law from within the UK, you may have to convince the Immigration Officer that you will depart from the UK and apply for an EEA family Permit after your marriage.
antalya wrote:As long as i understand my spouse has to be a permanent resident in uk that i fill the reguirment for fince/e visa, do i understand it right?
21.4.4 - Unmarried partners, fiancés or fiancées and civil partners wrote:Fiancés/fiancées and proposed civil partners who do not qualify as unmarried partners are not recognised under EC law. However, the UK amended the Immigration Rules in 2002 (Paragraph 290A) to allow fiancés/fiancées and proposed civil partners of EEA nationals to enter the UK under the Fiancé(e) Rules. For the purpose of these provisions, we would consider and EEA national to be "present and settled" if they were a qualified person in the UK.
antalya wrote:And now quation about alternative marry:
Alternatively, marry outside the UK, then initially apply for an EEA family Permit and subsequently apply under European Law.
Has my spouse also her to be permanent resident in uk?
Spouse may be a qualified person in the UK.
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Hallo again me.

Post by antalya » Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:41 pm

Now my fiancee in uk for 5 months and she has got a part time job.
She earns 400 Pounds netto in month and spend 200 for her living kosts.
She applied 1 months ago for EEA Family permit at the immigration office in uk.
She filled the forms VAF5 for us both and now after one month the office has given her all the papers and the forms also including her passport
and said she should send the paper to me to turkey and i should to go to uk Embassy in turkey.

What do u guys mean what will happen?
Has anyone experience whit Family Permit?
Do u think i ll get the visa?
thank alot of!

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onemore quation:

Post by antalya » Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:31 pm

We are only partner we intend to get marry in uk.
May i then after getting married my parner stay in uk or to turn back?

What should i say for my main purpose to visit uk; to get only marry my parner and come back or to get marry and stay there with my partner?

Ä° would like to get marry and stay with my partner if i may do?

thanks all!

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hallo!

Post by antalya » Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:40 pm

can nobody answer the quations?

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Hello everybody again!

Post by antalya » Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:50 pm

We have applied for (EEA) Family permit to entry UK it has been refused
with the reason .
here is the decision:


The Entry Clearence Officer s dicision

You have applied for admission to the UK by virtue of European Comunity Law
as the family member of a European Economic Area national who is exercising,
or wishes to exercise, rights of free movement under the Treaty of Rome in the UK.


Ä° have refused your EEA family permit application on this occasion becouse i am not
satisfied that you meet all of the reqiurements of Regulation 12 of the Ä°mmigretion (
European Economic Area) Regulation 2006. This decision will not prejudice any
future UK visa or EEA family permit application that you make.


The Entry Clearance Officer s reasons and supporting evidence

You have applied for an EEA family permit to join your partner, a German nation
in the UK. You say that you met your partner in Turkey and that you lived together
for two years. Ä° note that you have provided no documentary evidence of cohabition
with your partner whilst she was in Turkey apart from a very brief handwritten note
from your partner s mother. Ä°n addition, you have not provided very few photographs
of the two of you taken in Turkey and most of these are undated. You have not
evidenced any contct since your partner s return to the UK. None of these factors
are suggetive of a genuine subsisting relationship.

Ä° have also considered your economic circumstances here in Turkey.
You are unemployed and appear to be never been in registered employment
in Turkey. You have submitted your bankbook, which shows only one
transaction in the past 15 months , and this was a deposit of a large
amount inconsistent with previous transactions on the account.
You have failed to show the source of these funds.

Giving your economic circumstances, the potential economic benifits of
relocating to the lack of supporting documents about your relationship,
i can not be satisfied that this is a genuine and subsisting relationship,
nor that you have any intention to live permanently with the sponsor.

Ä° have considered your application under Article 8 of Human Rights Act.
Ä° am aware that you have been unable to demondtrate any
insurmountable obstacle to your sponsor s continiung to live with you
in Turkey to enjoy family life or indeed to visit you regularly here if she
so wishes. Ä°n view of the forgoing facts i am satisfied that your rights
under Article 8 have not been breached.


Ä° have inclouded new picktures dated, evidence about our corespondece,
evidence about our living at same address like hosptal registration and an letter from the house lessor.
and inclouded also my bank transackion it is a lot of trans action on it.
And some money.
And and my insurence copy i have been registered worker before.
Ä° have appealed against the decision of (ECO) by my selfe posted today.

What do u think what will happen?

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Hello! i need advice about appealing.

Post by antalya » Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:24 pm

Ä° have been asked what language my sponsor need by oral hearing.
For answer this quation i need (appeal number and FCO number)
Ä° dont know about my appeal number and FCO number.
How do i get to know that?
pls help!

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