maheshnair wrote:aman wrote:maheshnair wrote:WOW!!.. you seem to have achieved the ubiquitous NRI status: Naturally Roundu(cribber) Indian.coolsats wrote: All big indian companies have already eaten and moved many jobs to India .
It is not the UK job market that is a problem , it is these companies who are creating hell .
I lost my first job as a contractor when one of the Big indian companies came in and offered a rate of a beggar(1/4th) and also buy 1 take 1 resource free etc .
Almost 250 localites lost job from that company because of this Indian company .
They moved whole IT to india and made 250 guys jobless .
Recently the UK company is hiring back contractors as the Indian guys screwed things up and they lost millions of pounds ...
Time for a bitter truth for you Mr nair. You have pricked me enough
First things first. The very reason many came over here was because there were these Indian companies which had hired them and gave them the necessary experience in my view and the necessary "qualifying money" in your view.
The core lies in creating value, where ever you are who ever you are, indian or NRI(inspite of the cribbing!) or American, Brit etc..
True there are a lot of low quality high quantity pitch thrown about (and thats needed as well), but you got to be blind to not see less but sureely high quality stuff coming out o India. The pay obviously for such professionals is not trivial and that my friend is flat economy for you.
Now I can compare many top notch Indians/others here or home with you and tell you what triviality you have achieved in your life. Let me just say wake up and realize that if its just because you happen to be here you HAVE money or you are creating worth thats why you MAKE money.
What you are saying is of the same league as saying since you are Indian/Nair/NRI/sarkari you should get the job. Well if folks in UK did that I am sure we(including them) will be back in medieval times. Move on Mahesh . If you have these cretches(being here/ localite/ as a reason to getting a job) you will always limp . Collaborate and Seek ladders like the UK economy..thats what the smart ,value seeking guys devised for you..free markets...to grow your value and theirs too not at your or their or anybody's expense but definitely having competition. Live it up or keep cribbing the choice is yours.
Allright now something for this thread:
As folks have mentioned here, the jobs are there for the specific skills. As an example a friend of mine has worked as embedded engineer. His contract got over and he went back to India for a while and came bac. It took him a month to get a job. There were not many calls he had. Now the job he got was in Set top box company. He had prior experience in that No other embedded software company approached him like mobile phones/Cars/ other
So in a nutshell. My 2 cents: Seek the specific companies that do the stuff that you think you have specialized in. Else might be good to invest in yourself and become skilled at present job/expand and explore oppurtunities there till economy picks up .or could go for higher degree if you can afford the time and money.
Mr Aman ,
"First things first. The very reason many came over here was because there were these Indian companies which had hired them and gave them the necessary experience in my view and the necessary "qualifying money" in your view. "
Dont assume things son .
I came here in student VISA spending lakhs and was then hired by a UK company . My fist Job was with a UK company .
Again i say these INDIAN companies are the biggest reasons why Localites loose Job .
Just if you throw away the first three Big indian companies from UK .
Localites will get thousands of jobs .....
They come here , say the client that they will move job to India and will quote a rate like 100 £ / 120 £ and say they will give 10 free resources etc and Push the whole project to India and thus spoils the Life of a UK guy who will go jobless and stand on roads begging .....
Take some time to digest what I said.
I will try rephrase this for your case.
Why did the localites have those jobs in the first place?
Because of merit or because they were local.
you spend lakhs to get merit or to get the local status?
imagine what a corporation would be reduced to if merit was thrown out and obscure criteria like local/caste/parents influence became the norm. Does sifaarish/donation ring a bell!. There will be no google or microsoft only the jobs that are given as alms. You will eventually be reduced to a beggar.
As for the degree you got paying lakhs, well there are many in India who got through into top colleges in India and studied almost for free. Lots of others pay heavy fees to go privately and then seek excellence at work,
accepting merit as standard.
They are the ones why Indian professionals are being recognized.
Not because someones oldie stashed cash(mostly immorally) and thought they could buy degree and be equal to others.
Now this case of jobs going India. Well if people there make false calims to win buisness, how long do you think they will go. well as you say the flase calim will get them flat on face and they get busted. they get what they deserve. But on the other hand if there is a smart company in India that does an admirable job than people here well they win and hats off. You just weren't good enough. Take it as it really is and improvise.
You are okay to be a slave here to be a master in India. Well pal the Neo Indian professional and the real folks who matter in west would really shove that up.., cause they have earned it.
Look the reason at times for such conflict is because sadly we see slavery in India and keep condoning it..(We got to stop pushing things under carpet even if we can't do anything about it now or later.. Denying like false claims will only make you a worse being. ) From the sweepers child to your uncle in village's son fighting unequal oppurtunities. You start devaluing merit and start giving pre-eminence to luck/special status. You approve the slave master relation. The best bit you could learn here and more so in America is not being a localite, but valuing merit above anything else. Every syetem has pros and cons, try take the pros.. sadly for you from India inspite of the loads of rare pros you seem to have taken the cons.
